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usmarine wrote:

Varegg wrote:

usmarine wrote:


no one liners kthx mr preacher of debate etiquette.  pls explain then.  he did not write the bill.
I had the impression this bill was a joint venture by the congress, a bipartisan work promoted by Obama ...

But that is really not the topic in this thread if you care to read it from the top ...
so what?  since when do you care who talks about the OP?  oh thats right, only when certain people do it.

anyway, to call it a joint venture would mean you are the one out of touch with reality my dear.  and obama SHOULD have written the bill first, then handed it over.  but, i guess this is the change we expected tbh.
Then you should read up on the subject, this is not a solo project from Obama ...

Oh ... and didn't you vote for him btw?
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usmarine
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Varegg wrote:

Then you should read up on the subject, this is not a solo project from Obama ...

Oh ... and didn't you vote for him btw?
i know it wasnt a solo project from obama...thats my point.  jesus dude...CHANGE?????????????????????????

anyway, its funny you think i voted for him.
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usmarine wrote:

Varegg wrote:

Then you should read up on the subject, this is not a solo project from Obama ...

Oh ... and didn't you vote for him btw?
i know it wasnt a solo project from obama...thats my point.  jesus dude...CHANGE?????????????????????????

anyway, its funny you think i voted for him.
Soooo ... what is it you wanted me to explain then :confuzzled:
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Varegg wrote:

Soooo ... what is it you wanted me to explain then :confuzzled:
why didnt obama write it first, then had it over?
Noobpatty
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....did ANYONE notice that was slowed down to show that random woman on the left said "I love you barack"
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Omg the look on that white women face in the first video.. priceless
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Was that a town hall meeting or an Oprah special?
Kmar
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Noobpatty wrote:

....did ANYONE notice that was slowed down to show that random woman on the left said "I love you barack"
Yea, the Rush's, Becks, and Sean's were all over it as soon as it happened.
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lowing
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Braddock wrote:

Obama is great... free houses. What's not to like!?

Lowing, I'd say your blood pressure is going through the roof with stories like these!? I'd like to presume that the house she got is something along the lines of council housing over here, whereby you have very reasonable rent and an option to buy after a number of years... because if it's free houses with no strings attached it's utterly stupid... and NOT socialism.
You can assume whatever you want, the house she got was a charitable  gesture from a private citizen who was not a fuckin' liberal, and it was rent free for as long as she needed it. A very noble gift.

Any guesses as to how long "as long as she needs it" will turn out to be?
lowing
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JahManRed wrote:

lowing wrote:

I read a very truthful observation about this, and it is undeniably true

In order for Obama to give this woman a house, like she is begging him for, he would have to take it from someone else who worked for it paid for it and in fact earned it.
Perhaps like here, it will be a Housing Association programme, where you own half the house and the association owns the other half. The Premiums are affordable and after 10 years you can buy the other half.
Or perhaps he is going to give her a government owned house and charge her rent. Then after 15 years you get the chance to buy the house bellow market rate. I seriously doubt he can giver her a free house. It would set a precedent.
Socialism FTW!
the govt. does not own houses, the tax payers do, so basically you are wrong, any house thid lady gets under govt. permission, was tsken from someone who worked for it
lowing
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Varegg wrote:

lowing wrote:

Varegg wrote:

Was it not a republican that gave away that house and not Obama?
Yup that is called charity, not a govt. handout, the tax payers were not burdoned at all. THis is not what she expected, I bet it was not what Obama expected either. I guess I do not need t opoint out the irony of the fact it was a Repulican and not a socialist that was charitable. Ironic huh?
I'm going to answer you in a typical lowing way: So damn pathetic of republicunts to help just one person and not acknowledge that the problem is much larger than getting one person housing, populistic bullcrap ... Obamas goal is to help America and try to find solutions that benefits all citizens, guess the republicunts are so desperate for votes they buy them one at the time.
What part of The govt. does not own houses to give away, it would have to take a house from someone who worked for it, did you miss?

Obama's goal is to have the American citizens dependant on govt. period

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usmarine wrote:

Varegg wrote:

Soooo ... what is it you wanted me to explain then :confuzzled:
why didnt obama write it first, then had it over?
It's not common for one man to write a bill, it's teamwork ... and writing a bipartisan bill takes efforts from both sides ... kinda why it's called bipartisan ... it's takes a little longer to write a bipartisan bill but then again it saves time to get it passed ...

Can you dig?
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Varegg wrote:

usmarine wrote:

Varegg wrote:

Soooo ... what is it you wanted me to explain then :confuzzled:
why didnt obama write it first, then had it over?
It's not common for one man to write a bill, it's teamwork ... and writing a bipartisan bill takes efforts from both sides ... kinda why it's called bipartisan ... it's takes a little longer to write a bipartisan bill but then again it saves time to get it passed ...

Can you dig?
wrong.  the prez and his advisors would write it...not one man.  you dont hand a blank check over to the nutters in congress.


you dig?
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usmarine wrote:

Varegg wrote:

usmarine wrote:


why didnt obama write it first, then had it over?
It's not common for one man to write a bill, it's teamwork ... and writing a bipartisan bill takes efforts from both sides ... kinda why it's called bipartisan ... it's takes a little longer to write a bipartisan bill but then again it saves time to get it passed ...

Can you dig?
wrong.  the prez and his advisors would write it...not one man.  you dont hand a blank check over to the nutters in congress.


you dig?
So serious a situation I believe it was correct to involve both parties and they did ... normally I would agree with you but this can hardly be called a normal situation ... besides the work on this bill started before Obama took office.
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lowing
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Ut oh. looks like I have been put on ignore for my inconvenient truth about where any house the govt. seeks to give, would come from, oh well.
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lowing wrote:

Ut oh. looks like I have been put on ignore for my inconvenient truth about where any house the govt. seeks to give, would come from, oh well.
There is no truth in your posts lowing neither convenient nor inconvenient ... it's easy to hate what you don't understand and by the look of your hate-o-meter there is a lot you don't understand
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Varegg wrote:

lowing wrote:

Ut oh. looks like I have been put on ignore for my inconvenient truth about where any house the govt. seeks to give, would come from, oh well.
There is no truth in your posts lowing neither convenient nor inconvenient ... it's easy to hate what you don't understand and by the look of your hate-o-meter there is a lot you don't understand
What about your 'republicunts...'
lowing
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Varegg wrote:

lowing wrote:

Ut oh. looks like I have been put on ignore for my inconvenient truth about where any house the govt. seeks to give, would come from, oh well.
There is no truth in your posts lowing neither convenient nor inconvenient ... it's easy to hate what you don't understand and by the look of your hate-o-meter there is a lot you don't understand
Ok I am ready for some truth, If you wanna tell me where the govt. is going to get this woman a house, without taking it from someone else, I am all ears.


Did you also notice this woman asked for a HOME, rather than ask for a JOB so she could buy or EARN her own home? She went straight for it, gimme a home not a job!!, Go figure, would you expect anything more?

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lowing
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Varegg wrote:

lowing wrote:

Ut oh. looks like I have been put on ignore for my inconvenient truth about where any house the govt. seeks to give, would come from, oh well.
There is no truth in your posts lowing neither convenient nor inconvenient ... it's easy to hate what you don't understand and by the look of your hate-o-meter there is a lot you don't understand
What about your 'republicunts...'
Well, we all know that is different, they'll tell ya.
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1000 pages in the stimulus... I wonder how many senators or Congressmen read the whole thing before they voted and...
then raced it through congress...?

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Varegg wrote:

usmarine wrote:

Varegg wrote:


It's not common for one man to write a bill, it's teamwork ... and writing a bipartisan bill takes efforts from both sides ... kinda why it's called bipartisan ... it's takes a little longer to write a bipartisan bill but then again it saves time to get it passed ...

Can you dig?
wrong.  the prez and his advisors would write it...not one man.  you dont hand a blank check over to the nutters in congress.


you dig?
So serious a situation I believe it was correct to involve both parties and they did ... normally I would agree with you but this can hardly be called a normal situation ... besides the work on this bill started before Obama took office.
How were both parties involved?  From what I have seen it was a Democrat bill that they were trying to get the republicans to buy into. 


Pelosi wrote:

Yes, we wrote the bill. Yes we won the election, but that doesn’t mean we don’t want sustainability or Republican support,” Pelosi said.
http://www.rollcall.com/news/31650-1.html

Wonder why only 3 Republicans in the Senate voted for it?  Oh yeah, it wreaks of government program spending.  I hate the fact that Obama has been calling on Republicans to put politics aside and vote for the bill.  Isn't it a bit funny how left wing this bill is and he has the audacity to call out Republicans for not putting politics aside.  A lot of conservatives don't want any kind of stimulus plan.  Why in the world would they vote for one that is this heavy on spending programs they don't agree with?

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

1000 pages in the stimulus... I wonder how many senators or Congressmen read the whole thing before they voted and...
then raced it through congress...?
Not many, the House was given a couple hours to look it over before they voted.
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lowing
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Notice how this thread takes a nose dive when the obvious is revealed?

The women asks for a house not a job for herself or her son. (They seek a handout, not a hand up.)

Obama can't give this woman a house without taking it from someone else. (Punish acvievment, reward failure.)

The liberals are avoiding these points like the plague, as they should. This puts in a nutshell the whole flawed ideology of liberalism/socialism in this country, and they can not defend it.
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Varegg wrote:

lowing wrote:

Ut oh. looks like I have been put on ignore for my inconvenient truth about where any house the govt. seeks to give, would come from, oh well.
There is no truth in your posts lowing neither convenient nor inconvenient ... it's easy to hate what you don't understand and by the look of your hate-o-meter there is a lot you don't understand
What about your 'republicunts...'
That was just a word game ... like when lowing says NObama and "your messiah"
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lowing
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Varegg wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Varegg wrote:


There is no truth in your posts lowing neither convenient nor inconvenient ... it's easy to hate what you don't understand and by the look of your hate-o-meter there is a lot you don't understand
What about your 'republicunts...'
That was just a word game ... like when lowing says NObama and "your messiah"
I see, so when I "word game" I am full of hate, when yo do it, it is just joking around and making a statement...Got it.
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Now if only Obama could get us out of a recession with his Midas touch, then I would be happy.

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