Harmor
Error_Name_Not_Found
+605|6519|San Diego, CA, USA

rammunition wrote:

Iran wants peace, just look at their record, they haven't attacked a nation in aggression for so long i have lost count, same can't be said about the u.s
Iran is supplying insurgents with material and logistical support in Iraq killing our soldiers and perhaps thousands of Iraqi civilians in the procress while 'wiping their hands' of the notion in international circles.
1stSFOD-Delta
Mike "The Spooge Gobbler" Morales
+376|5949|Blue Mountain State

Harmor wrote:

rammunition wrote:

Iran wants peace, just look at their record, they haven't attacked a nation in aggression for so long i have lost count, same can't be said about the u.s
Iran is supplying insurgents with material and logistical support in Iraq killing our soldiers and perhaps thousands of Iraqi civilians in the procress while 'wiping their hands' of the notion in international circles.
The fuck dude. It's rammunition, what do you expect. America is evil and runs of the energy of brown babies. duh
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Baba Booey
rammunition
Fully Loaded
+143|5832

Harmor wrote:

rammunition wrote:

Iran wants peace, just look at their record, they haven't attacked a nation in aggression for so long i have lost count, same can't be said about the u.s
Iran is supplying insurgents with material and logistical support in Iraq killing our soldiers and perhaps thousands of Iraqi civilians in the procress while 'wiping their hands' of the notion in international circles.
you say it as if Iran is the only one to fund militants.


The U.S funds and arms israel to kill palestinian and lebanese people, they also funded the mujahedeen, what about the Chiang nationist army which killed 10's of thousands, also the u.s backed and funded General Suharto who killed nearly 1 million people.

Also, why is america backing Iranian terrorists groups???







i can go on forever regarding u.s hypocrisy

Last edited by rammunition (2009-02-12 01:49:20)

Catbox
forgiveness
+505|6687
rummynition... always good for a laugh...
Love is the answer
rammunition
Fully Loaded
+143|5832

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

rummynition... always good for a laugh...
i guess you find it hard to reply to facts, and to u.s hypocrisy. crawly back into your cave son
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|6742|PNW

rammunition wrote:

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

rummynition... always good for a laugh...
i guess you find it hard to reply to facts, and to u.s hypocrisy. crawly back into your cave son
Owd yer sweat, Derbyshire. Britain's got nothing to boast about without coughing up a skeleton or two from their closet of the macabre.

Hypocrisy. Ha!

lowing wrote:

I am SURE Obama will be at his beckening call, no worries.
/facepalm

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/beck-and-call.html

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2009-02-12 02:04:54)

rammunition
Fully Loaded
+143|5832

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

rammunition wrote:

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

rummynition... always good for a laugh...
i guess you find it hard to reply to facts, and to u.s hypocrisy. crawly back into your cave son
Owd yer sweat, Derbyshire. Britain's got nothing to boast about without coughing up a skeleton or two from their closet of the macabre.

Hypocrisy. Ha!
stay on topic, don't change the subject when you cannot answer back to facts

Last edited by rammunition (2009-02-12 02:04:42)

unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|6742|PNW

rammunition wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

rammunition wrote:


i guess you find it hard to reply to facts, and to u.s hypocrisy. crawly back into your cave son
Owd yer sweat, Derbyshire. Britain's got nothing to boast about without coughing up a skeleton or two from their closet of the macabre.

Hypocrisy. Ha!
stay on topic, don't change the subject when you cannot answer back to facts
Don't blame me for changing the topic, you took that bait for yourself.
Catbox
forgiveness
+505|6687
lmao... thanks for the karma... rummynition...  Go USA... and let nobody stop our takeover of the whole world... lol
Love is the answer
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|6742|PNW

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

Go USA... and let nobody stop our takeover of the whole world... lol
https://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/images/gungho_full.jpg
Edit: Wait, is that Charles Bronson?

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2009-02-12 02:16:30)

FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6382|'Murka

rammunition wrote:

Iran wants peace, just look at their record, they haven't attacked a nation in aggression for so long i have lost count, same can't be said about the u.s
Right. Because the single possible measure of how peaceful a nation is is how many nations they've "attacked in aggression".

Those who fund/train/equip terrorists to target other countries' militaries and civilians are just a bunch of peace-loving hippies, aren't they?
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
JahManRed
wank
+646|6599|IRELAND

FEOS wrote:

Those who fund/train/equip terrorists to target other countries' militaries and civilians are just a bunch of peace-loving hippies, aren't they?
During the cold war and throughout the 1990s, US SOF troops were revealed to be training foreign units with bloody records, including the Atlacatl Battalion in El Salvador in 1989 (this battalion killed six Jesuit priests whom they viewed as too sympathetic to guerrillas, their housekeeper, and her young daughter during that same year) and Kopassus units in Indonesia through mid-1998 (these units supported and armed militias in East Timor that brutally attacked and killed citizens and UN officials during the vote for independence in 1999).

the FBI provided training to approximately 1,200 international students through 32 separate international training initiatives. Of these students, the vast majority—approximately 900—received training from FBI instructors who traveled abroad.30 The remainder came to the FBI Academy at uantico, Virginia.
Two ongoing FBI international training programs are the Pacific Rim Training Initiative and the Mexican/American Law Enforcement Training. The latter has involved training the 5,000-member Mexican Federal Preventive Police, a unit implicated by the media as perpetrating human rights Abuses—including torture—in Guerrero state.

The State Department’s 2002 Human Rights Report cited the security forces in 51 of the countries receiving IMET training (38% of the total) for their poor human rights records.

In 1999, Congress barred the FBI and any other federal law enforcement agency from using federal funds to provide training for or conduct exchange programs with the RUC or any successor organization until the president certified that certain requirements had been met. The ban was motivated by concerns that the FBI had trained forces that committed or condoned the murder of several defense attorneys in Northern Ireland.

According to the DEA website, “since 1969 the DEA and its predecessor agencies have trained more than 40,000 foreign officers and officials. In 1998 alone, the DEA trained over 3,000.”

Countries who have received training from the USA.
1 BELIZE
2 JAMAICA
3 HAITI
4 GUATEMALA
5 HONDURAS
6 EL SALVADORE
7 NICARAGUA
8 COSTA RICA
9 PANAMA
10 TRINIDAD & TOBAGO
11 GUYANA
12 SURINAME
13 TUNISIA
14 SENEGAL
15 GAMBIA
16 GUINEA BISSAU
17 BURKINA FASO
18 GUINEA
19 SIERRA LEONE
20 COTE D’IVOIRE
21 GHANA
22 TOGO
23 BENIN
24 CAMEROON
25 CENTRAL AFRICAN REP.
26 EQUATORIAL GUINEA
27 GABON
28 CONGO
29 RWANDA
30 BURUNDI
31 UGANDA
38 ESTONIA
39 LATVIA
40 LITHUANIA
41 CZECH REPUBLIC
42 SLOVAKIA
43 HUNGARY
44 SLOVENIA
45 CROATIA
46 BOSNIA-HERZEGOVINA
47 YUGOSLAVIA
48 ROMANIA
49 MOLDOVA
50 ALBANIA
51 MACEDONIA
52 BULGARIA
53 GREECE
54 MALTA
32 ERITREA
33 DJIBOUTI
34 ZAMBIA
35 MALAWE
36 MOZAMBIQUE
37 ZIMBABWE
55 GEORGIA
56 ARMENIA
57 AZERBAIJAN
58 LEBANON
59 JORDAN
60 BAHRAIN
61 UZBEKISTAN
62 TURKMENISTAN
63 TAJIKISTAN
64 KYRGYZSTAN
65 AFGHANISTAN
66 PAKISTAN
67 NEPAL
68 BANGLADESH
69 THAILAND
70 LAOS
71 CAMBODIA
72 VIETNAM
73 MALAYSIA
74 EAST TIMOR

In FY 2003, the U.S. government is proposing to give military training (and often military hardware) to at least 51 countries whose security forces are responsible for persistent human rights abuses. A comparison between IMET funding for 2001-2003 and the State Department’s annual human rights report, issued in March 2002, reveals that 51 countries, or more than one-third of those receiving U.S. military training through this rogram alone, have “poor” human rights records (see Appendix 2, pages 41-45). Among other violations, many of these countries’ military and police
forces have engaged in torture and assassination. In addition, other countries with poor human rights records are undoubtedly receiving JCET or other types of training for which no specific information is made publicly available.
http://www.fpif.org/pdf/papers/SRmiltrain.pdf
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6382|'Murka

I was wondering how long that would take.

And how many of those are using the training provided to slaughter civilians? How many of them are using EFPs? How many of those countries' military forces are engaged in a proxy insurgent war against US forces?

The human rights violations mentioned are neither trained nor condoned by the US forces who are training the militaries in those nations.

Way to completely overlook the point of my post.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6194|Escea

JahManRed wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Those who fund/train/equip terrorists to target other countries' militaries and civilians are just a bunch of peace-loving hippies, aren't they?
During the cold war and throughout the 1990s, US SOF troops were revealed to be training foreign units with bloody records, including the Atlacatl Battalion in El Salvador in 1989 (this battalion killed six Jesuit priests whom they viewed as too sympathetic to guerrillas, their housekeeper, and her young daughter during that same year) and Kopassus units in Indonesia through mid-1998 (these units supported and armed militias in East Timor that brutally attacked and killed citizens and UN officials during the vote for independence in 1999).

the FBI provided training to approximately 1,200 international students through 32 separate international training initiatives. Of these students, the vast majority—approximately 900—received training from FBI instructors who traveled abroad.30 The remainder came to the FBI Academy at uantico, Virginia.
Two ongoing FBI international training programs are the Pacific Rim Training Initiative and the Mexican/American Law Enforcement Training. The latter has involved training the 5,000-member Mexican Federal Preventive Police, a unit implicated by the media as perpetrating human rights Abuses—including torture—in Guerrero state.

The State Department’s 2002 Human Rights Report cited the security forces in 51 of the countries receiving IMET training (38% of the total) for their poor human rights records.

In 1999, Congress barred the FBI and any other federal law enforcement agency from using federal funds to provide training for or conduct exchange programs with the RUC or any successor organization until the president certified that certain requirements had been met. The ban was motivated by concerns that the FBI had trained forces that committed or condoned the murder of several defense attorneys in Northern Ireland.

According to the DEA website, “since 1969 the DEA and its predecessor agencies have trained more than 40,000 foreign officers and officials. In 1998 alone, the DEA trained over 3,000.”

Countries who have received training from the USA.
1 BELIZE
2 JAMAICA
3 HAITI
4 GUATEMALA
5 HONDURAS
6 EL SALVADORE
7 NICARAGUA
8 COSTA RICA
9 PANAMA
10 TRINIDAD & TOBAGO
11 GUYANA
12 SURINAME
13 TUNISIA
14 SENEGAL
15 GAMBIA
16 GUINEA BISSAU
17 BURKINA FASO
18 GUINEA
19 SIERRA LEONE
20 COTE D’IVOIRE
21 GHANA
22 TOGO
23 BENIN
24 CAMEROON
25 CENTRAL AFRICAN REP.
26 EQUATORIAL GUINEA
27 GABON
28 CONGO
29 RWANDA
30 BURUNDI
31 UGANDA
38 ESTONIA
39 LATVIA
40 LITHUANIA
41 CZECH REPUBLIC
42 SLOVAKIA
43 HUNGARY
44 SLOVENIA
45 CROATIA
46 BOSNIA-HERZEGOVINA
47 YUGOSLAVIA
48 ROMANIA
49 MOLDOVA
50 ALBANIA
51 MACEDONIA
52 BULGARIA
53 GREECE
54 MALTA
32 ERITREA
33 DJIBOUTI
34 ZAMBIA
35 MALAWE
36 MOZAMBIQUE
37 ZIMBABWE
55 GEORGIA
56 ARMENIA
57 AZERBAIJAN
58 LEBANON
59 JORDAN
60 BAHRAIN
61 UZBEKISTAN
62 TURKMENISTAN
63 TAJIKISTAN
64 KYRGYZSTAN
65 AFGHANISTAN
66 PAKISTAN
67 NEPAL
68 BANGLADESH
69 THAILAND
70 LAOS
71 CAMBODIA
72 VIETNAM
73 MALAYSIA
74 EAST TIMOR

In FY 2003, the U.S. government is proposing to give military training (and often military hardware) to at least 51 countries whose security forces are responsible for persistent human rights abuses. A comparison between IMET funding for 2001-2003 and the State Department’s annual human rights report, issued in March 2002, reveals that 51 countries, or more than one-third of those receiving U.S. military training through this rogram alone, have “poor” human rights records (see Appendix 2, pages 41-45). Among other violations, many of these countries’ military and police
forces have engaged in torture and assassination. In addition, other countries with poor human rights records are undoubtedly receiving JCET or other types of training for which no specific information is made publicly available.
http://www.fpif.org/pdf/papers/SRmiltrain.pdf
Who else would you train anyway? First world, even second world countries really don't need it. Third world do. Don't see how the US is somehow immoral because it provides training to countries that have some human rights abuses, they're not the ones conducting it.

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