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usmarine wrote:

he was going on trial mik.  what more do you want?  HE WAS GOING ON TRIAL.  THATS WHAT YOU PEOPLE WANT.

What the hell does that have to do with judging him BEFORE trial?! You make all of this uproar and all of these alarmist statements based on your own misguided moral compasses and make it seem like the world is out of whack, simply because you cannot respect the ideals that your country represents. It's disgusting.

Last edited by mikkel (2009-02-06 16:18:14)

usmarine wrote:

m3thod wrote:

17 died and you still aint got shit.

we will have to wait since his TRIAL was CANCELLED.

How daaaaaaaaaaaaaaare you shout at me.  Seriously have you no manners? Where you brought up or dragged up young man? 

That innocent Arab's brothas trial would be a total farce since the prosecution would have relied on unreliable evidence gained from a notorious torture technique called waterboarding.  Nasty stuff.

m3thod wrote:

usmarine wrote:

mikkel wrote:

What the hell does that have to do with judging him BEFORE trial?!

he wasnt detained for helping puppies cross the street

Thanks god you're not intelligent enough to work in Law.

He is intelligent enough to keep you in the air ... stay on topic ... both of you ...

usmarine wrote:

he was going on trial mik.  what more do you want?  HE WAS GOING ON TRIAL.  THATS WHAT YOU PEOPLE WANT.

He may still go on trial.  The OP obviously didn't read the story he linked because it said that he would be held pending new charges - not "going home"

I think the argument for stopping all current proceedings at Gitmo is the fact that some trials aren't "fair" (fair in the US Constitutional sense- Right to a fair trial).  The fact that people have been tortured (going off Crawford's own words) among other indiscretions is enough to raise an air of doubt as to the fairness of the trials.  A complete halt to all proceedings and a revisit of each individual case is in order.

Last edited by KEN-JENNINGS (2009-02-06 16:26:44)

m3thod wrote:

mikkel wrote:

usmarine wrote:

he wasnt detained for helping puppies cross the street

Why the hell does it matter what he was detained for?

I believe marine belief is if you're a darkie, wearing Nike trainers kitted out with one of those headscarf's the pals wear and anywhere near the vicinity of Iraq then you're should be detained and promptly sent to be waterboarded in the nearest secret CIA prison.

I think that you are right.

m3thod wrote:

Lieutenant_Jensen wrote:

m3thod wrote:

I believe marine belief is if you're a darkie, wearing Nike trainers kitted out with one of those headscarf's the pals wear and anywhere near the vicinity of Iraq then you're should be detained and promptly sent to be waterboarded in the nearest secret CIA prison.

I think that you are right.

Of course i am.  The left is always right.

Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do!

Braddock wrote:

SealXo wrote:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090206/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/obama_guantanamo

this guy killed 17 people and is gunna get to go home - so cash.

That really is strange that he was convicted of these murders and still got released, there is something deeply wrong with that in my opinion. Fair enough if he was held without due process and was never brought before a proper trial and proven guilty but the fact it was proved that he killed these people and still got released is disgusting.

Taken a knock to the head Bradders?!

m3thod wrote:

Braddock wrote:

SealXo wrote:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090206/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/obama_guantanamo

this guy killed 17 people and is gunna get to go home - so cash.

That really is strange that he was convicted of these murders and still got released, there is something deeply wrong with that in my opinion. Fair enough if he was held without due process and was never brought before a proper trial and proven guilty but the fact it was proved that he killed these people and still got released is disgusting.

Taken a knock to the head Bradders?!

Scotty, set phasers to "sarcasm"!

The American judicial system has failed. Simple as that.

Torture, special courts to permit the use of evidence obtained under torture, military appointed lawyers, retrials, all after months if not years of the detainee being held without charge.

You don't have a leg to stand on marine. If he was guilty there is no reason a proper court of law could not convict him.

Last edited by TheAussieReaper (2009-02-06 17:22:37)

Stingray24 wrote:

Bet they put a gps in his turbine ... I hear bombs from an F16 have a certain attraction to that signal.

He can use his turbine to fly away.

There should be no trial if indeed he was tortured, and it has been admitted that waterboarding was used in his case.

This is where the discussion should end. The guy isn't just being set free, keep that in mind.

edit: Hey my 777th day on bf2s! Hooray!

Last edited by djphetal (2009-02-06 17:20:22)

Stingray24 wrote:

m3thod wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

Bet they put a gps in his turbine ... I hear bombs from an F16 have a certain attraction to that signal.

He can use his turbine to fly away.

Yes, perhaps he will use my wonky spelling to send coded messages, too.

You didn't spell anything wrong.

m3thod wrote:

Braddock wrote:

m3thod wrote:

Taken a knock to the head Bradders?!

Scotty, set phasers to "sarcasm"!

hmmmmm......

It hasn't been proved, the trial was cancelled and the charges were dropped.

al-Nashiri 'confession' was extracted through waterboarding. Nuff said.

Exactly, if they had wanted this alleged murderer behind bars they should have followed due process and had him legitimately incarcerated. As it was he was just a guy subjected to irregular, questionable conditions and processed in a manner that lacked transparency, and hence any credible kind of legitimacy, who had to ultimately be released.

Moral of the story... if a guy is guilty then prove it in a court of law with evidence, don't torture him for a confession on a secluded island and operate outside of the accepted rules of civilised society.