Turquoise wrote:
Snake wrote:
I fully support the strikers. Why hire labour from Italy when you can hire labour from just down the road? It doesn't make sense and it doesn't support our own country (i.e. employing our own unemployed) which is obviously a rising number, during a hard-enough time as it is..
That sounds good in spirit, but globalization dictates otherwise. At this point, it's surprising you still have any manufacturing left at all in the U.K., given the costs of production.
Damn globalisation. Should be banned
Agreed on the manufacturing part...its horrendous. I live just below the Midlands, so we get their news. All it ever is, is car manufacturing companies laying off workers. Fair play to Honda over at Swindon for having never made a single redundancy: they just dont allow their people to work for X amount of time, and then allow them in afterwards. They all get temp-jobs during that time, whilst receiving part pay I believe. Incredible.
Turquoise wrote:
Snake wrote:
I don't care if there's an illegal side to it or not (well, I do, but that's not my main concern), in a time of economic crisis, with unemployment rising, you don't start to reverse that by hiring foreign labour and then shipping them all the way across Europe whilst our own citizens have no jobs and are losing them each day, especially in these fields of work. Morally, its not right, given the current climate.
The only way out is to better educate your workforce. America needs to do this as well.
I see your point...but couldn't this be a reason for manufacturing being in decline...i.e. nobody with a degree wants to work in a factory or on-site? And if they are better educated, that will probably put their costs up. Generally speaking, apart from specialist fields, foreign labour is less educated than our own workforce, due to different works of practise, standards (i.e. Eurocodes and British Standards), etc.
Turquoise wrote:
Snake wrote:
There was a great interview with one of the Italian workers on the BBC earlier...he couldn't even speak English. What fucking use is that to a contractor?
See Mexicans here. You'd be surprised what people are willing to put up with if the labor is cheaper.
Yup, but its interesting because asylum seekers and people moving to the UK to work have to have GCSE level abilities to speak English, yet this seems to be sidestepping that...
That is my understanding, at least.
Turquoise wrote:
Snake wrote:
I like how even my own industry have got in on it, with the Corus beam mill at Teeside also on strike. That's a huge site up there, and with our industry in decline too, that will seriously impact all of our rolling programs and delivery dates (if they keep at it). Most people in my office and our factory support them too....which leads me onto:
Turquoise wrote:
The point is that, when your economy is already headed for the shitter, the last thing you want to do is strike.
2 words for you: maximum impact.
1 word back... outsourcing
The harder you make it for employers to do business in your country, the more likely it is that they will move to a cheaper country. I don't like it anymore than you do, but that's how it works.
Unfortunately
No wonder we cannot be self-sufficient anymore.
But then...would we really outsource at this point in time, putting more people into unemployment and upsetting the economy even more? Well, probably actually, but thats another issue.
