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GR34
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I will be ordering at the end of the month but which should I get?
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I cant seem to find any benchmarks or charts comparing the two Processors so I am not sure. I am also not shure if If the AMD will actualy take the 1066 memory.

Last edited by GR34 (2009-01-21 12:51:25)

Yaocelotl
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anyone because they're the same pic
GR34
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Thank you damiit lol
Freezer7Pro
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I'd go with a better-brand PSU, you're paying an awful lot for that 4870, same for the HD. Otherways it's fairly ok.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Scorpion0x17
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Yaocelotl wrote:

anyone because they're the same pic
The 2nd one is clearly the better build!
GR34
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Freezer7Pro wrote:

I'd go with a better-brand PSU, you're paying an awful lot for that 4870, same for the HD. Otherways it's fairly ok.
its the 2nd cheapest 4870 on newegg.ca above a shitty MSI. What PSu would you recommend
CrazeD
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First rig is better, but get rid of that disgusting Rosewill PSU.

Freezer7Pro wrote:

you're paying an awful lot for that 4870, same for the HD.
It's newegg.ca, Canada gets raped on tech.

Also, the Phenom II will take 1066 memory.

EDIT: Oh, and for a PSU, check these out:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as … 6817139001

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as … 6817703005

Last edited by CrazeD (2009-01-21 12:57:40)

GR34
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Wow they are expensive, but you get what you pay for. One more thing If I go AMD will the power supplies provided be enough for say... two 4870's?
Freezer7Pro
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http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as … ;Tpk=450VX

This will surely handle one 4870. Can't say about two.

HX520 will handle two.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
GR34
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all right thanks for the halp guys. I will soon be the proud owner of a phenom 2
CrazeD
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Two 4870's should be fine on the 450W, as Corsair underspecs their PSU's...so, it has more power than listed.
GC_PaNzerFIN
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CrazeD wrote:

Two 4870's should be fine on the 450W, as Corsair underspecs their PSU's...so, it has more power than listed.
but that 520w will run more quietly

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2009-01-21 14:25:20)

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GR34
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CrazeD wrote:

Two 4870's should be fine on the 450W, as Corsair underspecs their PSU's...so, it has more power than listed.
are you 100% sure? I just dont want to have to come murder you if my stuff fries
Little BaBy JESUS
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CrazeD wrote:

Two 4870's should be fine on the 450W, as Corsair underspecs their PSU's...so, it has more power than listed.
Really? im hesitant to run 2 on my Antec 650w.
Freezer7Pro
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Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

Two 4870's should be fine on the 450W, as Corsair underspecs their PSU's...so, it has more power than listed.
Really? im hesitant to run 2 on my Antec 650w.
Wattage ratings are never true.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Little BaBy JESUS
m8
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Freezer7Pro wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

Two 4870's should be fine on the 450W, as Corsair underspecs their PSU's...so, it has more power than listed.
Really? im hesitant to run 2 on my Antec 650w.
Wattage ratings are never true.
fair enough....
Little BaBy JESUS
m8
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Hey sorry to de-rail your topic but this isnt worth starting my own....

Ok so im considering buying a 2nd 4870 soemtime in the future. i have a 1gb one at the moment. should i just go for a 512mb version if i get a 2nd one? or go for another 1gb one?
GC_PaNzerFIN
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Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

Hey sorry to de-rail your topic but this isnt worth starting my own....

Ok so im considering buying a 2nd 4870 soemtime in the future. i have a 1gb one at the moment. should i just go for a 512mb version if i get a 2nd one? or go for another 1gb one?
1GB.... using 512MB in CF with 1GB card will hurt performance.

edit: and non-identical cards are likely to have worse micro-stuttering issues. (fps remains high but the game noticably lags)

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2009-01-21 18:23:47)

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MysteryJake
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Freezer7Pro wrote:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139003&Tpk=450VX

This will surely handle one 4870. Can't say about two.

HX520 will handle two.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as … 6817703015
Gets you 50W more for a few more bucks. Great PSU's too, never had a problem with them.
doc. josh
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http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as … 6817341010

this one looks fine like it will do fine
Scorpion0x17
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Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

Really? im hesitant to run 2 on my Antec 650w.
Wattage ratings are never true.
fair enough....
Nor is it the most important factor.

When, oh when, will PSU and component manufacturers start listing detailed and reliable Amperage ratings?

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2009-01-21 19:39:37)

Brasso
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GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

Hey sorry to de-rail your topic but this isnt worth starting my own....

Ok so im considering buying a 2nd 4870 soemtime in the future. i have a 1gb one at the moment. should i just go for a 512mb version if i get a 2nd one? or go for another 1gb one?
1GB.... using 512MB in CF with 1GB card will hurt performance.

edit: and non-identical cards are likely to have worse micro-stuttering issues. (fps remains high but the game noticably lags)
the same thing goes for a card with a different memory type, same amount.  like if i tried to CF my 4870 1GB and a 4850X2 2GB.  each core has 1GB of vRAM dedicated but the 4850 card has GDDR3 memory vs. my 4870's GDDR5 memory, which is a shit-ton faster and has loads more bandwidth.
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CrazeD
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Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

Two 4870's should be fine on the 450W, as Corsair underspecs their PSU's...so, it has more power than listed.
Really? im hesitant to run 2 on my Antec 650w.
You needn't worry.

Wattage-wise, 450W is plenty. However, it comes down to amperage and how solid it is at continuous high usage.
Freezer7Pro
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CrazeD wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

Two 4870's should be fine on the 450W, as Corsair underspecs their PSU's...so, it has more power than listed.
Really? im hesitant to run 2 on my Antec 650w.
You needn't worry.

Wattage-wise, 450W is plenty. However, it comes down to amperage and how solid it is at continuous high usage.
To trust their specs, the VX450 can deliver a true 400W - on 12V alone. Tests have proven that you can overload it to ~40A (480W) on 12V continuously.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
r2zoo
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CrazeD wrote:

First rig is better, but get rid of that disgusting Rosewill PSU.
I dont follow on that one personally, I understand Rosewill is a Newegg brand, and all the fun stuff that comes with that, but I have a 500w PSU from them and it runs my 4850 without an issue and has done a great job of providing power for the past 2 years without a single incident.  Maybe not the best PSU to ever exist, but for its price range they are decent, atleast in my experience with them.  Whereas ive had several Antec PSUs go bad within a few months, guess that boils downs to personal preference.

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