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Does this sort of thing get repaired or scrapped?usmarine wrote:
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I'd assume scrapped, everything will be waterfucked, and stress from impact etc would prob mean the entire thing has to be scanned very finely.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Does this sort of thing get repaired or scrapped?usmarine wrote:
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/7348 … a76zu0.jpg
Those were my thoughts as well, just wanted to see if usmarine had any experience with the issue. The plane is worth an awful lot after all.FatherTed wrote:
I'd assume scrapped, everything will be waterfucked, and stress from impact etc would prob mean the entire thing has to be scanned very finely.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Does this sort of thing get repaired or scrapped?usmarine wrote:
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/7348 … a76zu0.jpg
But i have no experience with this, it just does look a bit... fucked
And it also appears to be relatively intact. Sure they would need to replace a few things, but the chassis seems to be fine and that's the biggest part.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Those were my thoughts as well, just wanted to see if usmarine had any experience with the issue. The plane is worth an awful lot after all.FatherTed wrote:
I'd assume scrapped, everything will be waterfucked, and stress from impact etc would prob mean the entire thing has to be scanned very finely.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Does this sort of thing get repaired or scrapped?
But i have no experience with this, it just does look a bit... fucked
They could probably salvage the chassis, but the rest would have to go obviously. Most planes are completely stripped (and I mean COMPLETELY stripped of everything but the chassis) every couple of years when they undergo maintenence, so I don't see why not.DoctaStrangelove wrote:
And it also appears to be relatively intact. Sure they would need to replace a few things, but the chassis seems to be fine and that's the biggest part.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Those were my thoughts as well, just wanted to see if usmarine had any experience with the issue. The plane is worth an awful lot after all.FatherTed wrote:
I'd assume scrapped, everything will be waterfucked, and stress from impact etc would prob mean the entire thing has to be scanned very finely.
But i have no experience with this, it just does look a bit... fucked
IIRC from RAF work ex days, every single componant as part of the chassis has a stress tolerance - exceed it and it becomes unsafe (obv).DoctaStrangelove wrote:
And it also appears to be relatively intact. Sure they would need to replace a few things, but the chassis seems to be fine and that's the biggest part.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Those were my thoughts as well, just wanted to see if usmarine had any experience with the issue. The plane is worth an awful lot after all.FatherTed wrote:
I'd assume scrapped, everything will be waterfucked, and stress from impact etc would prob mean the entire thing has to be scanned very finely.
But i have no experience with this, it just does look a bit... fucked
A320 is something like 70-80mil $FatherTed wrote:
IIRC from RAF work ex days, every single componant as part of the chassis has a stress tolerance - exceed it and it becomes unsafe (obv).DoctaStrangelove wrote:
And it also appears to be relatively intact. Sure they would need to replace a few things, but the chassis seems to be fine and that's the biggest part.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Those were my thoughts as well, just wanted to see if usmarine had any experience with the issue. The plane is worth an awful lot after all.
Now it was a verrry fine landing, but i'm sure that plane went through a lot of stress in the impact, and losing its engines. not sure though.
But yeah, aren't jets this size like 40-50mil $ a pop?
I'm not completely sure if I understood what you mean, but when the planes are taken apart (every 4-5 years I think) they sure as hell don't replace everything.Poseidon wrote:
They could probably salvage the chassis, but the rest would have to go obviously. Most planes are completely stripped (and I mean COMPLETELY stripped of everything but the chassis) every couple of years when they undergo maintenence, so I don't see why not.DoctaStrangelove wrote:
And it also appears to be relatively intact. Sure they would need to replace a few things, but the chassis seems to be fine and that's the biggest part.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Those were my thoughts as well, just wanted to see if usmarine had any experience with the issue. The plane is worth an awful lot after all.
The entire plane is stripped. They replace SOME stuff, but not everything. I didn't say they did.Gawwad wrote:
I'm not completely sure if I understood what you mean, but when the planes are taken apart (every 4-5 years I think) they sure as hell don't replace everything.Poseidon wrote:
They could probably salvage the chassis, but the rest would have to go obviously. Most planes are completely stripped (and I mean COMPLETELY stripped of everything but the chassis) every couple of years when they undergo maintenence, so I don't see why not.DoctaStrangelove wrote:
And it also appears to be relatively intact. Sure they would need to replace a few things, but the chassis seems to be fine and that's the biggest part.
The plane was brought to a halt in less than 200m (estimate from watching a couple of the vids) so there propably is some serious structural damage.FatherTed wrote:
Now it was a verrry fine landing, but i'm sure that plane went through a lot of stress in the impact, and losing its engines. not sure though.
"They could probably salvage the chassis, but the rest would have to go obviously." That part caused the confusion.Poseidon wrote:
The entire plane is stripped. They replace SOME stuff, but not everything. I didn't say they did.Gawwad wrote:
I'm not completely sure if I understood what you mean, but when the planes are taken apart (every 4-5 years I think) they sure as hell don't replace everything.Poseidon wrote:
They could probably salvage the chassis, but the rest would have to go obviously. Most planes are completely stripped (and I mean COMPLETELY stripped of everything but the chassis) every couple of years when they undergo maintenence, so I don't see why not.
I think they put in new seats, new wheels, and a bunch of other stuff.
They had a program on it on MSNBC. Forgot what it was called. Very interesting.
look for it on craigslist as refurbished..lol.FatherTed wrote:
I'd assume scrapped, everything will be waterfucked, and stress from impact etc would prob mean the entire thing has to be scanned very finely.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Does this sort of thing get repaired or scrapped?usmarine wrote:
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/7348 … a76zu0.jpg
But i have no experience with this, it just does look a bit... fucked
Not sure if this was posted already.The US Airways A320 that crashed landed into the Hudson River on Thursday has been recovered and taken by barge to a dock in Jersey City. The missing left engine, which detached the moment the aircraft hit the water, is believed to have been located but has not been recovered due to the prevailing weather conditions.
At a news conference yesterday Kitty Higgins of the National Transport Safety Board (NTSB), confirmed that both data recorders had been found and that there was “excellent 30 minute quality voice recording” as well as “good quality solid state recording” from the flight data recorder.
Higgins went on to say that about 90 seconds after takeoff and at an altitude of 3,200 feet a comment was made in the cockpit by Captain Chesley Sullenberger about birds. A second later sounds of “thumps” were heard followed by a “rapid decrease in engine sounds”. Both engines then lost power simultaneously and Captain Sullenberger took control of the aircraft from First Officer Jeffrey Skiles, who was the flying pilot at the beginning of the flight.
Attempts to restart the engines were unsuccessful and a mayday call was made to air traffic control to say that they would return to LaGuardia. Following this the captain reports that they will be unable to return to LaGuardia and they “might end up in the Hudson” but discusses the possibility of landing at Teterboro. About one and a half minutes later Captain Sullenberger makes an announcement telling the passengers to brace for impact and informs air traffic control that they are landing in the Hudson.
[TUF]Catbox wrote:
They figured out how the plane was taken down... lol
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Plane in Hudson River had engine type that drew FAA scrutiny - CNN.comusmarine wrote:
someone help me with this...
I heard somewhere that same airplane had an engine stall on it like 2 months ago. plus it is a known issue with the GE engines and the airbus 320. I would imagine there is a story about it somewhere.
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http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/query.aspTheAussieReaper wrote:
Plane in Hudson River had engine type that drew FAA scrutiny - CNN.comusmarine wrote:
someone help me with this...
I heard somewhere that same airplane had an engine stall on it like 2 months ago. plus it is a known issue with the GE engines and the airbus 320. I would imagine there is a story about it somewhere.
Two days before US Airways Flight 1549 landed in the Hudson River, the same plane had experienced problems, CNN reported on January 19. That plane also was Flight 1549 -- also taking off from LaGuardia to Charlotte, North Carolina, but on January 13.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/01/21/plane. … index.html
More again here:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/01/19/hudson … index.html
"Two days before US Airways Flight 1549 crashed into the Hudson River, passengers on the same route and same aircraft say they heard a series of loud bangs and the flight crew told them they could have to make an emergency landing, CNN has learned."
Hope that helps.
