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2011-03-04 12:49:00

#801

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6728

how am i telling you how things work? you attacked my ability to read - i said im doing just fine 'reading' in my academic capacity, at university. then YOU took it upon yourself with all those 'years of real-life experience' to tell me that i was only going to "flip burgers" for the rest of my life, as if it's some retort to my confidence about being able to fucking read. lol. do you actually read the flow of the argument yourself? talk to me about skipping logic...

i want to go into criticism and music reviews. i have an arranged internship for the wire magazine (though they normally don't offer them), one of the world's foremost and influential music-culture magazines, the summer after my graduation. after that, funding depending, im likely going to take a master's in my specific area of interest at UCL, one of the world's top universities. at what point am i going to encounter 'bitterness' because my passion doesn't coincide with my degree? i said i didn't take my degree to get a job, i.e. i didn't take a vocational course... but that doesn't mean my passion for reading, writing and culture can't carry over to real-world prospects. huge leaping logical assumptions, again! and all those years of experience to better intuit and inform you! tch tch...

and yes nuk.

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2011-03-04 13:08:48

#802

nukchebi0: Пушкин, наше всё; +387|6582|New Haven, CT

Even in the midst of your ridiculous coke and MDMA binge?

2011-03-04 13:13:45

#803

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6728

i completed the essays later and was given extenuating circumstances for the 3-4 month period, i.e. excused and marked as usual.

not sure how any of this probing is relevant, though, other than to refute FEOS's funny "can you read?" comment. my reply was just meant to confidently riposte the all-so-typical 'haw haw you're an english student, shouldn't this be easy?' that comes up in every thread... because yes, it is easy. i'm doing rather fine and well, actually!

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2011-03-04 13:14:46

#804

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5843

Riveting thread guys.

Anyway, I need a book about the Roman Empire from it's rise to fall.

Best responsee gets a +1 karma and 500 experiance points.

2011-03-04 13:15:22

#805

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6728

Macbeth wrote:
Riveting thread guys.

Anyway, I need a book about the Roman Empire from it's rise to fall.

Best responsee gets a +1 karma and 500 experiance points.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Histor … man_Empire

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2011-03-04 13:16:54

#806

nukchebi0: Пушкин, наше всё; +387|6582|New Haven, CT

It's merely curiosity. I didn't realize that British universities give out academic excuses for self-inflicted issues.

2011-03-04 13:26:30

#807

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6669|'Murka

Uzique wrote:
how am i telling you how things work? you attacked my ability to read - i said im doing just fine 'reading' in my academic capacity, at university. then YOU took it upon yourself with all those 'years of real-life experience' to tell me that i was only going to "flip burgers" for the rest of my life, as if it's some retort to my confidence about being able to fucking read. lol. do you actually read the flow of the argument yourself? talk to me about skipping logic...

I'm not going to get into a quote/flame-fest with you. It'll only feed your juvenile ego. However, you're clearly having difficulty in following basic threads of thought during this discussion. Not a logical leap to think you have problems with reading comprehension, as reading is the only way to get the message from post to your brain, innit?

Then you took it upon yourself to wave your e-penis about your undergrad progress. Ooohhhh! So impressive! My response was merely to tell you in a less-than-literal way that all that is pointless. Would think that the irony of you missing that, with all your high insight into the written word, wouldn't be missed on you. But you missed it completely to begin with. Time for remedial studies for Zeek, I suppose.

And then there's the point that I never said anything about "the rest of your life." But you're so good at those logical leaps, you don't even notice that you're making them any longer.

Uzique wrote:
i want to go into criticism and music reviews. i have an arranged internship for the wire magazine (though they normally don't offer them), one of the world's foremost and influential music-culture magazines, the summer after my graduation. after that, funding depending, im likely going to take a master's in my specific area of interest at UCL, one of the world's top universities. at what point am i going to encounter 'bitterness' because my passion doesn't coincide with my degree? i said i didn't take my degree to get a job, i.e. i didn't take a vocational course... but that doesn't mean my passion for reading, writing and culture can't carry over to real-world prospects. huge leaping logical assumptions, again! and all those years of experience to better intuit and inform you! tch tch...

and yes nuk.

are you going to be paid to read "high lit'rahtoor"? Didn't think so. So I guess it would be at exactly...oh...THAT point that your vocation and your passion do not coincide.

But nice, irrelevant e-penis waving again. It's cute.

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― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

2011-03-04 13:37:30

#808

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6728

nukchebi0 wrote:
It's merely curiosity. I didn't realize that British universities give out academic excuses for self-inflicted issues.

lol self-inflicted issues. yeah you know everything from trolling bf2s! funny kid.

who is paid to read? that's so reductive. i'll be paid and employed in a research field / profession that is directly applicable and influenced by my reading-interests, though. that's pretty much as close as anyone can get to being paid to read, or being employed around the subject(s) that they love. for non-vocational degrees it's hardly a case of having the same career-structure as vocational degrees... i think im very fortunate and very fulfilled to be doing what i'm (prospectively) doing. an arts graduate could find a lot less use for their degree.

i didn't take this into a real-life e-peen waving contest... it was you that made the comment, detached from the debate, that i'm a "literature student" and should therefore be able to telepathically understand all of your posts. so, on the subject - yes, yes indeed i am a literature student, and a good one - and that's where the conversation went. your further put down about "employment prospects" only continued the tangent. it takes two to tango so i don't understand why you, the original mudslinger, now distastefully look down upon ad hominem as if you're the D&ST evangelist.

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2011-03-04 14:22:11

#809

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6669|'Murka

Uzique wrote:
nukchebi0 wrote:
It's merely curiosity. I didn't realize that British universities give out academic excuses for self-inflicted issues.
lol self-inflicted issues. yeah you know everything from trolling bf2s! funny kid.

who is paid to read? that's so reductive. i'll be paid and employed in a research field / profession that is directly applicable and influenced by my reading-interests, though. that's pretty much as close as anyone can get to being paid to read, or being employed around the subject(s) that they love. for non-vocational degrees it's hardly a case of having the same career-structure as vocational degrees... i think im very fortunate and very fulfilled to be doing what i'm (prospectively) doing. an arts graduate could find a lot less use for their degree.

i didn't take this into a real-life e-peen waving contest... it was you that made the comment, detached from the debate, that i'm a "literature student" and should therefore be able to telepathically understand all of your posts. so, on the subject - yes, yes indeed i am a literature student, and a good one - and that's where the conversation went. your further put down about "employment prospects" only continued the tangent. it takes two to tango so i don't understand why you, the original mudslinger, now distastefully look down upon ad hominem as if you're the D&ST evangelist.

I hope you an see OK from way up there in that ivory tower, Zeek. You're so lily-white and all...

You started us down this track by making a "review" of a book you hadn't read. You made the claim that you could do that based on ten pages from the beginning of the book and your treasure trove of knowledge on the written word--as an undergraduate student. Sorry. I don't care how "good" of a student you are. You're still just a student. You have no standing to throw the intellectual mud that you do here.

You've read a bunch of books. Wow. You've sucked your professors' intellectual cocks, shoveling back at them what they must hear to give you the grade you want in a completely subjective field. Double wow. You've used your connections to do more of that in the future. Get me a wet nap.

There's nothing ad hominem about it, Uzique. You overstepped (again). I called you on it (again). Maybe if you stopped being such an elitist boor, you'd stop getting the reaction that you inevitably do.

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

2011-03-04 14:25:51

#810

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6728

i'm not backing down. beck's style sucks dick. you think it's a good style. it is simple and rudimentary prose.

style doesn't change. the way an author writes doesn't morph magically as the book develops. it's his writing style. everyone has one. talented authors can imitate and parodize several. beck is not one of them. all of my IRL stuff has nothing at all to do with 'qualifying' that statement. it's just the way it is. i can read 200 pages of beck and i'll still have the same opinion of his style; how do 10 pages of his disjointed sentences not give a representation of the other 200 pages? you're being pretty dumb.

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2011-03-04 14:25:59

#811

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5616|London, England

He just got hard when you called him elitist.

And lol at being elite at reading. Anyone with time and a library card can be a pro at it.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2011-03-04 14:27:53

#812

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6728

clearly, galt. clearly. why are you reducing an art's degree into 'reading'. that's like saying anyone can add up. get them an abacus and the spare time and they can do basic math. rofl. any opportunity for you to snipe and somehow begin healing the repeat butthurt you've felt when humiliated in d&st. any excuse. typical galt, typical.

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2011-03-04 14:32:18

#813

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5616|London, England

Uzique wrote:
clearly, galt. clearly. why are you reducing an art's degree into 'reading'. that's like saying anyone can add up. get them an abacus and the spare time and they can do basic math. rofl. any opportunity for you to snipe and somehow begin healing the repeat butthurt you've felt when humiliated in d&st. any excuse. typical galt, typical.

Uhh yeah. It doesn't require sitting in a lecture hall to learn calculus. Same goes for sciences if you have the money for lab materials. You've wasted an obscene amount of your fathers money when you could've just gone backpacking and bought yourself a library.

Last edited by JohnG@lt (2011-03-04 14:32:47)

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2011-03-04 14:33:53

#814

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6728

on that level of reductionism, nobody needs to pay for an education. rofl.

you're so bias and narrowminded that it's always a waste of time arguing with you.

even when you're shown that you're wrong, outright and indefensibly... you just take to PM'ing from alt accounts to lick your ego wounds.

pathetic

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2011-03-04 14:35:18

#815

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6669|'Murka

Uzique wrote:
i'm not backing down. beck's style sucks dick. you think it's a good style. it is simple and rudimentary prose.

style doesn't change. the way an author writes doesn't morph magically as the book develops. it's his writing style. everyone has one. talented authors can imitate and parodize several. beck is not one of them. all of my IRL stuff has nothing at all to do with 'qualifying' that statement. it's just the way it is. i can read 200 pages of beck and i'll still have the same opinion of his style; how do 10 pages of his disjointed sentences not give a representation of the other 200 pages? you're being pretty dumb.

No, you're being obstinate. You haven't read the book, yet you're casting judgment. It is intellectually dishonest of you to do so, full stop. If I were to dismiss a book--or the entirety of the author's work--you post here based on reading the first ten pages, you would rant about the ridiculous nature of that, as well. And rightly so. How many of Beck's books have you read? I'm betting it's the big goose egg. Yet you are sitting there, dissecting his writing style, as if you've analyzed it in depth--from a ten-page perusal of one of his books.

Really. Step back and take an objective, intellectual look at what you're doing.

BTW, this is about the principle of what you're doing. I said in the OP that it wasn't that great of a book and that Beck's style wasn't that great (again with the reading comprehension).

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

2011-03-04 14:58:14

#816

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5616|London, England

Uzique wrote:
on that level of reductionism, nobody needs to pay for an education. rofl.

you're so bias and narrowminded that it's always a waste of time arguing with you.

even when you're shown that you're wrong, outright and indefensibly... you just take to PM'ing from alt accounts to lick your ego wounds.

pathetic

You're such a weakling. You got the best of me in one argument in the two years that I've been on this forum, and will continue bringing it up for the next two years as if it bothers me. I shit on you every chance I get because I find you detestable, not because of some throwaway argument. There's nothing likable about you.

Last edited by JohnG@lt (2011-03-04 15:35:02)

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2011-03-04 14:59:09

#817

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6728

hahaha. yeah sure it has only been once! rofl. you're so funny.

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2011-03-05 09:51:58

#818

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6728

the more of proust i read and the more secondary criticism i read, the more and more i become utterly submersed and drown.

victoria woolf was right to be so afraid of the book; barthes was about right, too, when he called it a mathesis and a literary cosmogony

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2011-03-05 15:53:08

#819

Shocking: sorry you feel that way; +333|6257|...

what?

inane little opines

2011-03-05 16:03:42

#820

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6669|'Murka

dayarath wrote:
what?

philistine

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

2011-03-06 16:06:55

#821

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6728

proust = da bomb

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2011-03-10 10:08:29

#822

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6728

first book that i read when i graduate:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Oedipus

nti-Oedipus analyses the relationship of desire to reality and to capitalist society in particular; it addresses questions of human psychology, economics, society, and history.[1] The book is divided into four sections. The first outlines Deleuze and Guattari's "materialist psychiatry" and its modelling of the unconscious in its relationship with society and its productive processes; in this section they introduce their concept of "desiring-production" (which inter-relates "desiring machines" and a "body without organs"). The second section offers a critique of Sigmund Freud's psychoanalysis that focuses on its theory of the Oedipus complex. The third section re-writes Karl Marx's materialist account of the history of society's modes of production as a development through "primitive," "despotic," and "capitalist" societies and details their different organisations of production, "inscription" (which corresponds to Marx's "distribution" and "exchange"), and consumption. In the final section, the authors develop a critical practice that they call "schizoanalysis."
The book draws on and criticises the ideas of a vast range of thinkers; as well as Marx and Freud, these include Althusser, Foucault, Lacan, Reich, Laing, Cooper, Jung, Klein, Oury, Jaspers, Hjelmslev, Peirce, Bateson, Clastres, Lévi-Strauss, Klossowski, Lyotard, Monod, Mumford, Turner, Wittfogel, Fourier, Kant, and Spinoza.[2] Deleuze and Guattari also draw on a wide range of creative writers and artists during the course of their argument; these include Artaud, Beckett, Büchner, Butler, Kafka, Kerouac, Kleist, Lawrence, Miller, Proust, Schreber, and Turner.[2] Foremost among its influences, however, stands Nietzsche—Anti-Oedipus may be considered a kind of sequel to The Antichrist.[3]

what an absolute postmodern headfuck. batty!

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2011-03-11 01:05:39

#823

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|7030|PNW

You should read "Mars Needs Moms" instead.

(inb4

Uzique wrote:
!!!!!!

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2011-03-11 05:36:00

#824

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6728

it's funny that, of all people to denigrate a thread in the all so serious and all so important D&ST, it's a moderator that lowers the tone of conversation. this is a book club. don't want to discuss serious books, or discuss books in a serious fashion? why not fuck off and AWM yourself. i'd get given shit if i did it in any other D&ST thread. hate to sound like usmarine but sort your act out.

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2011-03-18 23:04:38

#825

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6859|132 and Bush

I started this yesterday. It's meant to be fun, light.

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8492 … the-future

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