BF2S Forums I got a speeding ticket...

You can't fight this because you aren't right.

mtb0minime wrote:

And I plan on fighting this fucker in court. Any tips/advice?

Violation: I was on the 805-N (leaving San Diego) going 83mph according to the cop. (Max is 65 since it's a freeway)

My defense: For one, I wasn't going 83, more like 80.  And those 3mph make a difference. (83 ~ 85, and 85 is 20mph over the limit, which is ridiculous). My sister was also in the car with me and she can be a witness to all this. Furthermore, speed limits are there to protect people; I was not even driving remotely reckless. I was simply passing someone. It's not like I was weaving in and out of lanes and trying to speed by everyone. The average speed of the rest of the cars was probably around 75 to 80. The road was open enough for me to change lanes easily and not endanger anyone.

Thanks in advance, and if you need/want any other info, just ask and I'll try to answer.

Oh, also, the weather was clear and sunny, great conditions, dry road, perfect visibility. And it was about 1pm.

1.) Got proof you didnt go 83? They probably do have evidence saying that you did
2.) Witness? Unless it is a digital speedgauge, it highly likely that when your sister reads 80 it is actually 83 instead.
3.) Speedslimits are there because of bureaucrats wanting moar money
4.) So if everyone drove 120mph there, I guess its ok to drive 120 mph aswell?
5.) 65 is 65. If the road was open enough to change lanes easily why did you have to drive 83 then to do so?

I'm sorry but that defense needs some rethinking.

ceslayer23 wrote:

jord wrote:

Paying the fine is admitting you were wrong. You wouldn't plead guilty to a murder you didn't commit, would you?

no, but a speeding ticket and murder are not exactly the same thing, are they?

It's the same principle. Admitting to something you didn't do and letting people take money off you is less than admirable.

So you want to appeal because you were only going 80. when the speed limit is 65?
You got caught breaking the speed limit. Just accept it.

The judge will say, "were you speeding?" 
You'll say "yes your honor'
Judge replies "Ok you're guilty.  You are fined X dollars, Pay X for court costs.  Next case.."

This is why I only speed when I'm around my house at night.. I know all the cops' spots. I get scared shitless whenever I see a cop. But yeah, I speed a bit much. Hopefully I'm lucky and don't get caught. I might buy one of those valentine ONE things or w/e the radar detectors are called. I hear they are legal in MA.

RDMC wrote:

mtb0minime wrote:

And I plan on fighting this fucker in court. Any tips/advice?

Violation: I was on the 805-N (leaving San Diego) going 83mph according to the cop. (Max is 65 since it's a freeway)

My defense: For one, I wasn't going 83, more like 80.  And those 3mph make a difference. (83 ~ 85, and 85 is 20mph over the limit, which is ridiculous). My sister was also in the car with me and she can be a witness to all this. Furthermore, speed limits are there to protect people; I was not even driving remotely reckless. I was simply passing someone. It's not like I was weaving in and out of lanes and trying to speed by everyone. The average speed of the rest of the cars was probably around 75 to 80. The road was open enough for me to change lanes easily and not endanger anyone.

Thanks in advance, and if you need/want any other info, just ask and I'll try to answer.

Oh, also, the weather was clear and sunny, great conditions, dry road, perfect visibility. And it was about 1pm.

1.) Got proof you didnt go 83? They probably do have evidence saying that you did
2.) Witness? Unless it is a digital speedgauge, it highly likely that when your sister reads 80 it is actually 83 instead.
3.) Speedslimits are there because of bureaucrats wanting moar money
4.) So if everyone drove 120mph there, I guess its ok to drive 120 mph aswell?
5.) 65 is 65. If the road was open enough to change lanes easily why did you have to drive 83 then to do so?

I'm sorry but that defense needs some rethinking.

I just wanted to comment on #4 --- 120mph is a simply outrageous and totally biased number for the situation. Look at this realistically and look at it as the 80mph he said the average speed was. If that's the case, then yes, it is ok to drive that speed. Why? Because you put yourself and everybody else on the road with you in danger by going considerably slower than them. All you need is one person to not notice them until the last second to cause a huge pile up. 83 is pretty high but if it was a bit lower, you could always say you were keeping up with the flow of traffic.

Are American cops as strict about speeding as I get the impression they are? And do most people stick to 65 on the freeways? Over here, a lot of drivers in the fast lane are doing 90+. I think I'd kill myself if I was stuck at doing 65 all the time.

FrankieSpankie3388 wrote:

RDMC wrote:

mtb0minime wrote:

And I plan on fighting this fucker in court. Any tips/advice?

Violation: I was on the 805-N (leaving San Diego) going 83mph according to the cop. (Max is 65 since it's a freeway)

My defense: For one, I wasn't going 83, more like 80.  And those 3mph make a difference. (83 ~ 85, and 85 is 20mph over the limit, which is ridiculous). My sister was also in the car with me and she can be a witness to all this. Furthermore, speed limits are there to protect people; I was not even driving remotely reckless. I was simply passing someone. It's not like I was weaving in and out of lanes and trying to speed by everyone. The average speed of the rest of the cars was probably around 75 to 80. The road was open enough for me to change lanes easily and not endanger anyone.

Thanks in advance, and if you need/want any other info, just ask and I'll try to answer.

Oh, also, the weather was clear and sunny, great conditions, dry road, perfect visibility. And it was about 1pm.

1.) Got proof you didnt go 83? They probably do have evidence saying that you did
2.) Witness? Unless it is a digital speedgauge, it highly likely that when your sister reads 80 it is actually 83 instead.
3.) Speedslimits are there because of bureaucrats wanting moar money
4.) So if everyone drove 120mph there, I guess its ok to drive 120 mph aswell?
5.) 65 is 65. If the road was open enough to change lanes easily why did you have to drive 83 then to do so?

I'm sorry but that defense needs some rethinking.

I just wanted to comment on #4 --- 120mph is a simply outrageous and totally biased number for the situation. Look at this realistically and look at it as the 80mph he said the average speed was. If that's the case, then yes, it is ok to drive that speed. Why? Because you put yourself and everybody else on the road with you in danger by going considerably slower than them. All you need is one person to not notice them until the last second to cause a huge pile up. 83 is pretty high but if it was a bit lower, you could always say you were keeping up with the flow of traffic.

Honestly, who do you think you are fooling?

Bertster7 wrote:

Gawwad wrote:

FrankieSpankie3388 wrote:

I just wanted to comment on #4 --- 120mph is a simply outrageous and totally biased number for the situation. Look at this realistically and look at it as the 80mph he said the average speed was. If that's the case, then yes, it is ok to drive that speed. Why? Because you put yourself and everybody else on the road with you in danger by going considerably slower than them. All you need is one person to not notice them until the last second to cause a huge pile up. 83 is pretty high but if it was a bit lower, you could always say you were keeping up with the flow of traffic.

Honestly, who do you think you are fooling?

He is right to a point.

Sometimes you do see people driving absurdly slow on motorways (40-50, when everyone else is at least doing 70) and it is extremely dangerous. Fortunately I have seen quite a few people getting pulled over for driving too slowly.

Incidentally, what is the speed limit in the US and what speed do people typically drive? Over here it's 70, but anything under 100 is considered fairly acceptable and you are fairly unlikely to be pulled over at those speeds (you certainly won't be if you're doing less than 90).

There is no set speed limit in the US it's done state by state.  Here the limit is 65 on the freeway but 70-75 is the norm crusing speed and 45 is the minimun on the freeway (yes you can get a ticket for going to slow)

And yes driving to slow can cause a lot of problems but driving the speed limit can't be considered to slow and its not a drivers fault if they drive the speed limit and "get in your way" as you are speeding along.

woodrot wrote:

In the uk speed limit is 70 MPH however im sure they dont usally bother pulling you over unless your doing 80 or speeding past a static speed camera . Any way its an instant ban here if ur doing over 90
I THINK

Lol my cousin was doing 140 in his Cupra, and got booked. He got let off, the officer said he caught him doing 89. Lucky?

Gooners wrote:

woodrot wrote:

In the uk speed limit is 70 MPH however im sure they dont usally bother pulling you over unless your doing 80 or speeding past a static speed camera . Any way its an instant ban here if ur doing over 90
I THINK

Lol my cousin was doing 140 in his Cupra, and got booked. He got let off, the officer said he caught him doing 89. Lucky?

damn sure was lucky man for himself & others