Good post. However one thing I must add is that we were not supposed to go into Iraq at all. The war in Iraq is a complete BS which was orchestrated by our president. I know I will step on the toes of those who love our current president and will get flamed for my coments, but still I personally think JWB should not have been reelected just for this simple reason. When he went into Afghan he knew what he was fighting for. "Freedom"(although I am not sure how he can fight for freedom and sign a bill that will spy on people. Doesn't make sense to me). Anyway he went in there and destroyed Afghanistan in what...about 14 days? or something in that area. Now he knew before and he knows now that Bin Laden was always hiding in there not in Iraq, but he used his name to attack Iraq by saying and I quote "We will not distiguish between terrorists and those harboring them" and then saying that Hussein had weapons of Mass Destruction and Bio weapons made. 9 months prior he was saying completely opposite of that. Interesting. But anyway back to my point. Why go into Iraq Looking for Bin Laden when you know where Al Quada is hiding? Which is in the mountainst of Afghanistan. HMMMM He decided to stick his nose into another countries business just like Vietnam, and this is what we are getting. Just because Hussein is no longer in power, do you really think there will ever be democracy? Hell no. Iraq doesn't what democracy and will never except it. They will fight and kill anyone who tries to tell them otherwise, hence US. This is the same thing as Russian war in Chechen region. It cannot be won. I personally support our troops no matter what happens. I will blame their Commander and Chief for making poor decisions and judgments.BEE_Grim_Reaper wrote:
I sincerely hope not... The problem is: By removing a dictator who suppressed the population, a can of worms has been opened that is impossible to contain. Now all aggression of a heterogenic population breaks out again and it is not only directed against those perceived as rivals or enemies but agains outside forces as well.Sinyukov wrote:
Not to be a buzzkill or anything, with whats going on in Iraq, we are looking at the second Vietnam.oberst_enzian wrote:
the most interesting and relevent point in this thread so far. superior technology alone will never win the day. you have to believe in what you're fighting for. all the recent american military successes will never erase the memory of vietnam.
In the post-war time in Iraq more US Soldiers have died than in the actual war... that would definitely give me something to think about.
However, if this will be a second Vietnam, than we are all fucked badly... since there will be two traumas that some high brass can't overcome...
You cannot win a wars when you stick your nose into other coutries business. Examples:
Obviously Vietnam War, Soviet Era Afganistan war, Chechen war, and now most likely Iraqi War.
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