Colin Powell endorse Obama

2008-10-17 23:01:44

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Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6598|132 and Bush

OP fixed for accuracy

It's official.

Colin Powell wrote:
"It isn't easy for me to disappoint Sen. McCain in the way that I have this morning, and I regret that," Powell, interviewed on NBC's "Meet the Press," said of his longtime friend, the Arizona senator.

"But I firmly believe that at this point in America's history, we need a president that will not just continue, even with a new face and with the changes and with some maverick aspects, who will not just continue basically the policies that we have been following in recent years," Powell said.

"I think we need a transformational figure. I think we need a president who is a generational change and that's why I'm supporting Barack Obama, not out of any lack of respect or admiration for Sen. John McCain."

^{"damn..damn.damn.."}

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2008-10-17 23:06:07

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Poseidon: Fudgepack DeQueef; +3,253|6535|Long Island, New York

Nothing really matters at this point, but it's nice to see. I'm sure it'll pull in a few vets, if anything.

2008-10-17 23:07:00

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Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6598|132 and Bush

Poseidon wrote:
Nothing really matters at this point,

Do you really think that?

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2008-10-17 23:07:27

#4

God Save the Queen: Banned; +628|6341|tropical regions of london

Poseidon wrote:
Nothing really matters at this point

dont say that

2008-10-17 23:08:04

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Poseidon: Fudgepack DeQueef; +3,253|6535|Long Island, New York

Kmarion wrote:
Poseidon wrote:
Nothing really matters at this point,
Do you really think that?

State by State polls indicate so. Unless Obama's hit by a political bombshell or the economy suddenly turns to Superhappyfunland, it's not looking likely that anything's going to change from here on out until Nov. 4th.

2008-10-17 23:12:22

#6

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6672|Canberra, AUS

Polls only tell so much...

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2008-10-17 23:15:16

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Poseidon: Fudgepack DeQueef; +3,253|6535|Long Island, New York

Spark wrote:
Polls only tell so much...

Well, in Virginia he's leading by 8 points which is pretty substantial...and the rest of the states, he has double digit leads. Colorado has had him leading for months now as well.

We shall see. Polls are a lot more indicative than most people think.

Then again, most McCain supporters think they don't matter at all... Wonder why?

2008-10-17 23:16:32

#8

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6598|132 and Bush

Poseidon wrote:
Kmarion wrote:
Poseidon wrote:
Nothing really matters at this point,
Do you really think that?
State by State polls indicate so. Unless Obama's hit by a political bombshell or the economy suddenly turns to Superhappyfunland, it's not looking likely that anything's going to change from here on out until Nov. 4th.

Well if you are dumping all of your faith in polls maybe. But McCain has actually creeped up in some of them lately also.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ … cking_poll
http://www.gallup.com/poll/111211/Gallu … in-43.aspx

This endorsement does matter. And I'm not just talking a few vet votes. Obama has been hit on his lack of military experience ever since he began his campaign. This will help him out.

Hotline

If Powell, retired chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, does endorse, he blesses Obama as a capable leader who is able to manage critical national security and foreign policy matters.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2008-10-17 23:17:58

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Reciprocity: Member; +721|6578|the dank(super) side of Oregon

I can already imagine the conservative reaction here and everywhere else.

-Powell's endorsing Obama because he's black.

2008-10-17 23:19:25

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Flaming_Maniac: prince of insufficient light; +2,490|6704|67.222.138.85

it ain't over 'til the fat lady sings

2008-10-17 23:19:45

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Poseidon: Fudgepack DeQueef; +3,253|6535|Long Island, New York

Kmarion wrote:
Poseidon wrote:
Kmarion wrote:
Do you really think that?
State by State polls indicate so. Unless Obama's hit by a political bombshell or the economy suddenly turns to Superhappyfunland, it's not looking likely that anything's going to change from here on out until Nov. 4th.
Well if you are dumping all of your faith in polls maybe. But McCain has actually creeped up in some of them lately also.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ … cking_poll
http://www.gallup.com/poll/111211/Gallu … in-43.aspx

This endorsement does matter. And I'm not just talking a few vet votes. Obama has been hit on his lack of military experience ever since he began his campaign. This will help him out.

Hotline
If Powell, retired chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, does endorse, he blesses Obama as a capable leader who is able to manage critical national security and foreign policy matters.

I just use RCP, and he's been within the 6-9 point range for about 2 weeks now.

I'm sure it'll help. What I meant to say was that he'll still be leading when the day is done. Will it help increase his lead? Probably by a little bit, sure. I'm sure it'll pull some undecided votes in.

McCain however...well...

I think he'll be pulling a Brett Favre/Hillary Clinton soon.

https://cdn.faniq.com/images/blog/brett%20favre%20crying.JPG

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2008-10-17 23:20:19

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Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6598|132 and Bush

Reciprocity wrote:
I can already imagine the conservative reaction here and everywhere else.

-Powell's endorsing Obama because he's black.

Yes .. that was my exact reaction.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2008-10-17 23:20:25

#13

God Save the Queen: Banned; +628|6341|tropical regions of london

Poseidon wrote:
Then again, most McCain supporters think they don't matter at all... Wonder why?

2004

2008-10-17 23:21:25

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Poseidon: Fudgepack DeQueef; +3,253|6535|Long Island, New York

God Save the Queen wrote:
Poseidon wrote:
Then again, most McCain supporters think they don't matter at all... Wonder why?
2004

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/bush_vs_kerry.html

Pretty substantially in Bush's favor. In the end he only has a 1.5 lead, and that's 4.4 points less than Obama has on RCP atm.

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2008-10-17 23:31:12

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Reciprocity: Member; +721|6578|the dank(super) side of Oregon

Kmarion wrote:
Reciprocity wrote:
I can already imagine the conservative reaction here and everywhere else.

-Powell's endorsing Obama because he's black.
Yes .. that was my exact reaction.

conservative nitwit reaction.

I keep forgetting the republican party's recent divergence.

And I was thinking mostly of our conservative friends who still think Obama is an muslim arab, and that everything is gunna be about race" when "that one" is elected.

2008-10-17 23:37:59

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AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6150|what

It's funny, McCain has been trash talking the former Republican old guard this was bound to happen.

2008-10-17 23:46:03

#17

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6598|132 and Bush

Reciprocity wrote:
Kmarion wrote:
Reciprocity wrote:
I can already imagine the conservative reaction here and everywhere else.

-Powell's endorsing Obama because he's black.
Yes .. that was my exact reaction.
conservative nitwit reaction.

I keep forgetting the republican party's recent divergence.

And I was thinking mostly of our conservative friends who still think Obama is an muslim arab, and that everything is gunna be about race" when "that one" is elected.

Thanks for clarifying .

Yea.. we've got our nitwits. Don't we all?

Earth First

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2008-10-17 23:55:25

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Reciprocity: Member; +721|6578|the dank(super) side of Oregon

Kmarion wrote:
Earth First
[youtue]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElJFYwRtrH4[/youtube]

North Carolina doesn't sell Hippie tags? They really should control their hippie population, for future generations.

We used to a have a tree hugger problem here in Oregon. Deer hunters have their antlers, hippie hunters prize those elusive long and stinky dreadlocks on the males and hairy pits on the females.

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2008-10-18 00:04:15

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nukchebi0: Пушкин, наше всё; +387|6321|New Haven, CT

Reciprocity wrote:
Kmarion wrote:
Earth First
[youtbe]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElJFYwRtrH4[/youtube]
North Carolina doesn't sell Hippie tags? They really should control their hippie population, for future generations.

We used to a have a tree hugger problem here in Oregon. Deer hunters have their antlers, hippie hunters prize those elusive long and stinky dreadlocks on the males and hairy pits on the females.

Used too? I guess they are all in jail now, true.

2008-10-18 00:16:50

#20

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6598|132 and Bush

Reciprocity wrote:
Kmarion wrote:
Earth First
[youube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElJFYwRtrH4[/youtube]
North Carolina doesn't sell Hippie tags? They really should control their hippie population, for future generations.

We used to a have a tree hugger problem here in Oregon. Deer hunters have their antlers, hippie hunters prize those elusive long and stinky dreadlocks on the males and hairy pits on the females.

I had an ex that was from Oregon. She used to go on and on about how beautiful it was. Then I kicked her out.

True story

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2008-10-18 00:18:32

#21

nukchebi0: Пушкин, наше всё; +387|6321|New Haven, CT

Kmarion wrote:
Reciprocity wrote:
Kmarion wrote:
Earth First
[youube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElJFYwRtrH4[/youtube]
North Carolina doesn't sell Hippie tags? They really should control their hippie population, for future generations.

We used to a have a tree hugger problem here in Oregon. Deer hunters have their antlers, hippie hunters prize those elusive long and stinky dreadlocks on the males and hairy pits on the females.
I had an ex that was from Oregon. She used to go on and on about how beautiful it was. Then I kicked her out.

True story

It really is a beautiful state, though. She was right.

Edit: Even if she failed for other reasons.

Last edited by nukchebi0 (2008-10-18 00:19:01)

2008-10-18 02:17:03

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rdx-fx: ...; +955|6589

Damnit.. If Colin Powell would've run for President, THAT would've been a race.

Black-ish with experience, integrity, and intelligence (Powell) versus Black-ish with NO experience, but gives good speech (Obama).

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/extra/teach … trine.html

Colin Powell I have a good deal of respect for. He earned his place in the military, then in politics.
Obama is the F***ing Cheshire Cat - All big toothy smile, no substance or experience.

2008-10-18 03:23:01

#23

nukchebi0: Пушкин, наше всё; +387|6321|New Haven, CT

I would laugh at the voter turnout in the Deep South if that was the race. I bet some rural counties would see under 20%, or at least under 20% casting their votes for a major party candidate.

2008-10-18 05:26:18

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Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,810|6103|eXtreme to the maX

Powell is a mutually respected military man.

According to whom?
After the UN fiasco he admitted himself he had lost virtually all credibility, and then pretty much disappeared.

Русский военный корабль, иди на хуй!

2008-10-18 09:41:26

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Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6598|132 and Bush

Dilbert_X wrote:
Powell is a mutually respected military man.
According to whom?
After the UN fiasco he admitted himself he had lost virtually all credibility, and then pretty much disappeared.

According to most of congress and both party leaders. If people actually took the time to learn about the circumstances you would see that he fought it. Ultimately he has to serve the President. We saw the truth when the freedom of information act allowed us to see behind the scenes.
http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/20 … ll-te.html

Colin Powell wrote:
Terrorists are not greatest threat to nation.

"What is the greatest threat facing us now? People will say it's terrorism. But are there any terrorists in the world who can change the American way of life or our political system? No. Can they knock down a building? Yes. Can they kill somebody? Yes. But can they change us? No. Only we can change ourselves. So what is the great threat we are facing?"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … 01414.html

"Former secretary of state Colin L. Powell said yesterday that he decided to publicly oppose the Bush administration's proposed rules for the treatment of terrorism suspects in part because the plan would add to growing doubts about whether the United States adheres to its own moral code."

Powell tried to talk Bush out of war

"The former American secretary of state Colin Powell has revealed that he spent 2½ hours vainly trying to persuade President George W Bush not to invade Iraq and believes today’s conflict cannot be resolved by US forces."

He was fighting nearly the entire administration. McCain is going to have a tough time tearing down his military credentials. He won't have to though. Most people are ignorant to the fact that he tried to prevent the war.. so it wont matter.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

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