sours and saisons were big here about a year ago. i really don't like that.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
Breweries keep trying to make sours a thing. Fuck outta here!
stout is my winter drink.
stout is my winter drink.
it's funny how you can say 'I'm for l'art pour l'art!' and yet posit the notion that it 'expresses something higher' and 'is intended to make you reflect'. no motherfucker that's not what it means.uziq wrote:
everything can be reduced down to its constituent parts you simpleton. the point is that a painting expresses something higher, in and of itself, and is intended to make you reflect on something autonomous. a painting has its own telos. i hope you know more than one greek word. look it up.
but keep knocking out those carbonaras and kidding yourself that you're fucking de chirico or whatever. i bet you close your eyes and think really hard and deep when checking whether you've achieved the desired al dente pasta. don't forget to light some candles and play some mood music so you can turn it into a real ~artistic experience~
yeah same here. Do not like. I can drink about 4oz or a sour or saison before I start looking like Kim peek
i'm not being gay here. i am earthen and rustic. in touch with my bodily processes. epicurean, in fact.SuperJail Warden wrote:
I have a picture of Uzique and Larssen trying to out faggot each other in real life.
this guy over here thinks going to a restaurant for a meal is 'an art' experience. you can tell his parents didn't take him to many galleries growing up. the low countries really are swine.
art for art's sake means art with no political or social agendas bringing it down to the debauched level of 'use'. it is a saying literally borrowed from aestheticist thinking on kant. it was mostly a bunch of posturing by sickly fin-de-siecle artists who wanted to refine themselves out of the grubbiness of naturalism and other 'engaged' forms of art.Larssen wrote:
it's funny how you can say 'I'm for l'art pour l'art!' and yet posit the notion that it 'expresses something higher' and 'is intended to make you reflect'. no motherfucker that's not what it means.uziq wrote:
everything can be reduced down to its constituent parts you simpleton. the point is that a painting expresses something higher, in and of itself, and is intended to make you reflect on something autonomous. a painting has its own telos. i hope you know more than one greek word. look it up.
but keep knocking out those carbonaras and kidding yourself that you're fucking de chirico or whatever. i bet you close your eyes and think really hard and deep when checking whether you've achieved the desired al dente pasta. don't forget to light some candles and play some mood music so you can turn it into a real ~artistic experience~
unfortunately i really do have a master's degree in this precise subject, unlike classical epistemology.
but well done for googling theophile gautier. i love being inside your head.
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3 way. Never had a 4 or 5 way. Heck I grew up with 2ways cause I didn't like cheese that wasn't on pizza.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
I bet you're a 4-way guy. OnionsRTHKI wrote:
um well ive never had camp washington groups always ended up at skyline
Dauphinoise potato is tasty but it doesn't really cause me to reflect on the skill of the chef and the story of their path, the chef-customer relationship, the fundamental inequalities of the system, the rights and wrongs of the french revolution or anything at all really.
Its not art, its a nice alternative to chips but which doesn't take ketchup well, but its not art.
Its not art, its a nice alternative to chips but which doesn't take ketchup well, but its not art.
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Whatever, you are the tea pot and he is the team cup.uziq wrote:
i'm not being gay here. i am earthen and rustic. in touch with my bodily processes. epicurean, in fact.SuperJail Warden wrote:
I have a picture of Uzique and Larssen trying to out faggot each other in real life.
this guy over here thinks going to a restaurant for a meal is 'an art' experience. you can tell his parents didn't take him to many galleries growing up. the low countries really are swine.
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larssen is a discerning young bourgeois. he doesn't get much time to read novels or watch movies that aren't on his political science syllabus, however.Dilbert_X wrote:
Dauphinoise potato is tasty but it doesn't really cause me to reflect on the skill of the chef and the story of their path, the chef-customer relationship, the fundamental inequalities of the system, the rights and wrongs of the french revolution or anything at all really.
Its not art, its a nice alternative to chips but which doesn't take ketchup well, but its not art.
so he goes to his local butcher and buys a spanish charcuterie board instead. he can talk about the marbling in the cured meat! and about how the gauchos rear the meat in argentina. and he is full of such good cheer when he talks about the 'communal aspect' of meat and cheese boards, and their role in reinforcing ties of kinship. this way, he keeps his foot safely in the realms of 'culture'. he is a refined dude.
you think you're teaching me something new when saying you're for art for art's sake? Goddamn this isn't undergraduate stuff, we learnt this in high school uzi.uziq wrote:
art for art's sake means art with no political or social agendas bringing it down to the debauched level of 'use'. it is a saying literally borrowed from aestheticist thinking on kant. it was mostly a bunch of posturing by an sickly fin-de-siecle artists who wanted to refine themselves out of the grubbiness of naturalism and other 'engaged' forms of art.Larssen wrote:
it's funny how you can say 'I'm for l'art pour l'art!' and yet posit the notion that it 'expresses something higher' and 'is intended to make you reflect'. no motherfucker that's not what it means.uziq wrote:
everything can be reduced down to its constituent parts you simpleton. the point is that a painting expresses something higher, in and of itself, and is intended to make you reflect on something autonomous. a painting has its own telos. i hope you know more than one greek word. look it up.
but keep knocking out those carbonaras and kidding yourself that you're fucking de chirico or whatever. i bet you close your eyes and think really hard and deep when checking whether you've achieved the desired al dente pasta. don't forget to light some candles and play some mood music so you can turn it into a real ~artistic experience~
unfortunately i really do have a master's degree in this precise subject, unlike classical epistemology.
but well done for googling theophile gautier. i love being inside your head.
It means art doesn't need to have ANY justification or meaning. It doesn't need to make someone reflect, it doesn't need to express something higher at all. Don't try to bullshit me now. Literally any artist could make a dish and say it has plenty telos seasoning, put it on display for a hot minute and it would satisfy your notion of art.
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A lot of 'art' isn't art.
Can everyone calm down and get back to sharing snacks?
I'm mortified no-one commented on the idea of putting ketchup on dauphinoise potato frankly.
But it works, and so does horseradish.
Can everyone calm down and get back to sharing snacks?
I'm mortified no-one commented on the idea of putting ketchup on dauphinoise potato frankly.
But it works, and so does horseradish.
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don't get sidetracked by the 'higher' stuff. none of them seriously believed it made you see spirits either. that's me having fun. 'art for shart's sake' was a very good pun.
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Ketchup is only good on hot dogs and cheese burgers. If a cheeseburger is juicy enough with the right toppings, you don't even need ketchup.Dilbert_X wrote:
A lot of 'art' isn't art.
Can everyone calm down and get back to sharing snacks?
I'm mortified no-one commented on the idea of putting ketchup on dauphinoise potato frankly.
But it works, and so does horseradish.
you agreeing with dilbert while you know full well he would look at your favourite piece of art and say "it's just a bunch of lines" all the same. He's not kantian, he's a barbarian.
shit I'm sure he thinks we just called him a cunt too
People put ketchup on a lot of shit. Ive seen ketchup on ice cream.Dilbert_X wrote:
A lot of 'art' isn't art.
Can everyone calm down and get back to sharing snacks?
I'm mortified no-one commented on the idea of putting ketchup on dauphinoise potato frankly.
But it works, and so does horseradish.
Ice cream with ketchup
Buttered popcorn
Soda
That was a real meal served to me at 10:30pm in a town in South Dakota with less than 1000 people in it.
we pulled in to the gas station/service center/General store and asked if they knew so and so. "So and so? He was just in here getting his lawnmower fixed. You guys must be the folks from California he's been talking about."
We were visiting one of my moms friends from college. It was around 4th of July and the whole town pulled their pickup trucks into a field and all the men had some fireworks display to shoot off. I felt like I was in a time warp to the 1950s. My little Americana story
We were visiting one of my moms friends from college. It was around 4th of July and the whole town pulled their pickup trucks into a field and all the men had some fireworks display to shoot off. I felt like I was in a time warp to the 1950s. My little Americana story
larssen i don't think cooking is 'lesser' because it's not an art. i respect cooking. please don't be so mad at me. cooking creates its worst follies when it pretends to be art. it's when you get terrible restaurants charging obscene money for prix fixe menus, frothing strawberries and serving it with halibut, or presenting abstract expressionist art of jus and syrup on a plate the size of a child's sled. it's stupid. it is plainly pretentious.
yes there is room to be creative and innovative within crafts. but the idea is you are following a template. major departures from that template and you end up with disgusting food -- or a different recipe. again, there is nothing lesser in something being a 'craft' than an 'art'. they are side-by-side activities. i am not denigrating the creativity and excellence that goes into a good restaurant service. but pretending something is an art just leads to fatuous results. and chef's with white-ringed nostrils and very very big egos. chef's are not poets of the root vegetable. they are well-practiced craftsmen. of course any person who master's a craft gets to a level where they then invent their own blueprints, to be copied in turn. that's the nature of craft.
all this talk is making me very hungry. FOR THE AESTHETIC SUBLIME
yes there is room to be creative and innovative within crafts. but the idea is you are following a template. major departures from that template and you end up with disgusting food -- or a different recipe. again, there is nothing lesser in something being a 'craft' than an 'art'. they are side-by-side activities. i am not denigrating the creativity and excellence that goes into a good restaurant service. but pretending something is an art just leads to fatuous results. and chef's with white-ringed nostrils and very very big egos. chef's are not poets of the root vegetable. they are well-practiced craftsmen. of course any person who master's a craft gets to a level where they then invent their own blueprints, to be copied in turn. that's the nature of craft.
all this talk is making me very hungry. FOR THE AESTHETIC SUBLIME
Is anyone really the arbiter of what should and shouldn't have ketchup put on it - or in a posh restaurant, next to it?
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My little sister puts ketchup on steak. So does Trump. You shouldn't put anything on steak.Dilbert_X wrote:
Is anyone really the arbiter of what should and shouldn't have ketchup put on it - or in a posh restaurant, next to it?
Its a commonly accepted indication of cultureDilbert_X wrote:
Is anyone really the arbiter of what should and shouldn't have ketchup put on it - or in a posh restaurant, next to it?
several sauces or seasonings are acceptable on steak. chimichurri is great, i highly recommend it.SuperJail Warden wrote:
My little sister puts ketchup on steak. So does Trump. You shouldn't put anything on steak.Dilbert_X wrote:
Is anyone really the arbiter of what should and shouldn't have ketchup put on it - or in a posh restaurant, next to it?
isn't ketchup just molasses with red food colouring? i don't think i have ever eaten ketchup in my life.
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