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Locoloki wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Interesting article I found on Yahoo!:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technol … mp;mag=pop

heh, Robots vs Pirates

Cool if it worked, how does a terrorist/pirate negotiate with a robot?

FatherTed wrote:

update: http://news.uk.msn.com/Article.aspx?cp- … d=10026133

UN are en route, and the ruskies

Despite his willingness to negotiate, Ali vowed to "cause a lot of problems for the world" if foreign powers use force to end the two-week stand-off. If the ransom is paid, he said, the ship will be released.

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FatherTed wrote:

further news: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7664767.stm

pirates threaten to splode the ship

M.O.A.B wrote:

Seems they could be raided by a joint team, according to some new stuff I've been reading, but on the subject or pirating I came across this, even though its been out for a while, but I haven't seen any threads for it, bizarre story

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,430681,00.html

Article wrote:

On Aug. 21, the pirates, armed with AK-47s and rocket-propelled grenades, stole onto the decks of the merchant vessel Iran Deyanat.

They ransacked the ship and searched the containers. But in the days following the hijacking, a number of them fell ill and died, suffering skin burns and hair loss, according to reports.

The pirates were sickened because of their contact with the seized cargo, according to Hassan Osman, the Somali minister of Minerals and Oil, who met with the pirates to facilitate negotiations.

Sounds like the plot to one of those Steven Segal movies

SOMALI pirates got a shock last week: The ship they seized carried dozens of Russian-built tanks, along with a wealth of heavy weapons and ammo. It was more than they'd bargained for.

As I write, the Faina sits at anchor off a notorious pirate port, its crew held captive by 30 or more Somalis. US Navy warships circle the vessel. Our helicopters buzz its deck.

We don't want that weaponry falling into terrorist hands. The Somalis lack the facilities to unload 40-ton tanks, but the smaller weapons aboard would delight the local al Qaeda franchise.

But we don't know what to do next. Neither do the pirates, who caught a whale by the tail. We'd like them to drop their $20-million ransom demand. They'd like us to go away. Meanwhile, the pirates may have killed a number of their own for opaque reasons.

Chartered through a Ukrainian front company, the Faina's a typical post-Soviet arms smuggler: Its cargo is manifested to the Kenyan military, but the true destination for those T-72 tanks is either Sudan's government, which is under an international arms embargo, or southern-Sudanese rebels chafing under a rickety peace deal. The Kenyans are just middlemen making a buck.

The pirates attacked the wrong ship and screwed up everything.

Playing hide-and-seek along nearly 2,000 miles of coastline, Somali pirates have attacked over five dozen vessels this year alone. Their targets ranged from luxury yachts to oil tankers.

Pirates successfully hijacked 26 of those vessels, a dozen of which remain captive pending ransom payments. With few exceptions, ship owners pay up. To their credit, the French sent commandos to free a captured yacht, killing one pirate and capturing a gang. The rest of the world just rolls over.

Our Navy maintains an impressive presence off the Horn of Africa, along with vessels from other NATO states. We have the surveillance means to find and the firepower to destroy the pirate fleets of fast boats. But we don't want to hurt anybody.

Nonetheless, The New York Times has already tilted toward the pirates (and against our sailors), arguing that the hijackers are just poor lads who started out defending their fishing rights and became up-from-poverty entrepreneurs who don't like to hurt anybody. (You almost expect Johnny Depp and Keira Knightley to pop from a hatch.)

As usual, Western leftists excuse lawlessness that terrorizes the wretched of the earth - as long as their own wealthy neighborhoods remain safe. (Woe unto the Pirates of Narragansett Bay!)

The response to piracy must be the same as it was when the British brought an end to the profession's "golden age:" Sink them or board them, kill them or hang them.

Zero tolerance is the only effective policy.

Did I mention that another Somali pirate gang recently seized an Iranian cargo ship, which reportedly has radioactive material or ingredients for chemical weapons aboard?

And contrary to the Times, pirates are terrorists.

Dispatched by Vladimir Putin to cover up his arms industry's role in equipping rogue states, a Russian warship is underway to break the standoff. The pirates aren't going to like dealing with the Russians.

We should act first. We need to know exactly what's on that ship; we need to keep those tanks out of Sudanese hands - and we need to make an example of the pirates.

But we're paralyzed by fear: What if we make a move and the pirates attack their captives? They might - or they may fear the consequences. Either way, it's better to risk a small amount of bloodshed now than to let these gangs continue terrorizing the Gulf of Aden (the route to the Suez Canal) and sea lanes stretching into the Indian Ocean.

Piracy must be exterminated. Pirates aren't folk heroes or champions of the oppressed. They're terrorists and violent criminals whose ransom demands start at a million bucks. And they're not impressed by the prospect of trials in a velvet-gloved Western court.

Taking a hard line with Indonesian and Malay pirates was essential to breaking their grip on the Straits of Malacca in recent years. If all we intend to do off Somalia's coast is to burn up fuel in billion-dollar warships while thugs in speedboats flip us the bird, our Navy might as well head back to San Diego for shore leave.