CameronPoe
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Fellow Non-Americans,

John McCain was born on August 29th 1936. He is 72 years old. The life expectancy of the average American male is 75.6 years. John McCain suffered several years of torture at the hands of the Vietnamese. He has been diagnosed as having malignant melanoma - skin cancer. As Republicans go, he's one of the least odious.

http://www.time.com/time/politics/artic … 96,00.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/25/us/po … ref=slogin

Sarah Palin is the vice president on McCain's presidential ticket. Some facts about her:

She hails from Wasilla, Alaska. The town has an offical population of 5,469.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasilla,_Alaska

In terms of the United States of America, Wasilla is an irrelevant little pimple on the arse of the country. It is overwhelmingly monoracial, as compared against the primary urban centres in the United States, and has a per capita income less than half that of the American average. From what I can gather, it is uncharacteristic of most of America and especially uncharacteristic of the parts of America that actually matter.

Charles Wohlforth, in a Frommer's travel guidebook on Alaska, described Wasilla as "the worst kind of suburban sprawl of highway-fronting shopping malls and gravel lots."

Alaska is a largely unpopulated wilderness of ice, tundra, mountains, oil and polar bears. People are given tax breaks to move there, such is the lack of appeal the place has. It's essentially a welfare state in a country that prides itself and characterises itself on being the opposite. It is devoid of innovation - what primarily happens there is this:

- People fish crabs, lobsters, etc.
- People drill oil wells and pump oil.
- People cut down trees.

It is not Massachessetts - it does not give America an MIT or a Harvard. It is not New York - it does not give America global financial clout. It is not Chicago - it does not give America classic architecture and a wealth of musical heritage. All Alaska is about is extraction of resources from the sea or the ground. Nobody really needs to think about what they're doing - drill, chop, throw nets overboard. Simple as that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska

Sarah Palin was born and raised in Wasilla, Alaska and has spent her whole life there. She even made mayor of Wasilla. She worked here:

https://farm1.static.flickr.com/129/319098225_e3fb99541f.jpg?v=0

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayoralty_of_Sarah_Palin

I'm not lying - she pretty much 'worked' in a quasi-fucking log cabin in a shitty backwater of a state much of which lies in the Arctic circle.

In her youth she evidently thought that entering beauty pageants was the way forward: who needs substance when you can have image, eh? We can congratulate her on her Queen of Wasilla crown - it's quite the accolade. Despite the fact she is today a member of the loony religious right wing, when she was younger she defied conformity by eloping with her now-husband. He works for British Petroleum, by the way. He was recently subpoenaed in a probe into corruption allegations against his wife, who now happens to be the governor of Alaska. But it's ok: he refused to testify.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/200 … aed-probe/

Palin enjoys hunting, is a staunch defender of the right to bear arms (enshrined in the US constitution) and is, as I stated earlier, a member of the loony religious right wing. Oh yes, she is open to a discussion on teaching creationism in school and sees no problem, in theory, with teaching creationism alongside evolution. Whatsmore she thinks that America's leaders are on 'a mission from God' in Iraq and Afghanistan. What is this? The fucking Blues Brothers? Concern in the world over religiously motivated actions is at an all time high and Sarah 'Fire and Brimstone' Palin will get her hands on the launch codes that will bring Judgement Day (when Jesus returns to earth and we all ascend to heaven)?

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/ … 27574.aspx
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articl … in_on.html

Put this all together and what do we have - Sarah Palin is an inbred retard bible-thumping rootin-tootin hick. The exact type of person that represents all that is bad with America is very likely to become president of America. Last time America had one as President was ......... right now!

Now let's move on to what she will be placed in control of: the United States of America.

The US is currently the most internationally militarily belligerent nation on earth. The economy of the US represents a large chunk of the global economy and in a globalising world, things that happen in the US, have an impact outside the US. Since the loony religious right wing took control of America several years ago terrorism has increased markedly, the global economy is teetering on the brink of not just a recession but a depression (thanks largely to 'innovative' financial instruments originating in the US and woeful financial market regulation in the US, among many other things) and the plummeting value of the dollar drove oil prices to record levels (even causing food shortages in some countries). The US is not entirely to blame for all of these things, but they have played a massive and decisive part.

http://www.america.gov/st/washfile-engl … 28443.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_invasion_of_Iraq
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_(2001-present)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:US_m … d_2007.PNG
http://www.motherjones.com/military-maps/

http://www.wtrg.com/oil_graphs/oilprice1869.gif
http://www.wtrg.com/oil_graphs/oilprice1970.gif
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/7629516.stm
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,425707,00.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_I … onal_Group
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_Stearns
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehman_brothers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_rock
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_crisis_of_2008

So my non-American friends - How do you feel about the very real potential that a future president of the most militarily and economically powerful nation on earth, the United States of America, is a small-town nobody hick who likes thumping bibles, is presumably waiting for 'The Rapture' and has known nothing more than a life of skidoos, polar bears, log cabins and 'skilfully' dispatching defenseless moose (what happened to 'all creatures great and small...')?

Last edited by CameronPoe (2008-09-22 15:23:04)

usmarine
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oh hai thar


so, havent we discussed this topic before in just a few threads?
.Sup
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Americans always sucked at picking politicians. I remember saying: "They won't pick Bush the second time, they aren't THAT stupid". I was wrong.

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Good thread. I think the funniest thing I've heard is that she's more experienced than Obama. I understand Obama doesn't have as much experience in the senate as McCain, but saying that Palin has more experience than Obama BEYOND laughable.
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Stay on topic!
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CameronPoe wrote:

The exact type of person that represents all that is bad with America
You stole that one from me.

I demand 1 karma as royalties.
usmarine
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Varegg wrote:

Stay on topic!
k so what is the topic?  i am being srs.
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usmarine wrote:

Varegg wrote:

Stay on topic!
k so what is the topic?  i am being srs.
I'm outlining what an unmitigated disaster the potential reality of Sarah Palin as president would be. I'm asking primarily non-Americans (but all opinions welcome) whether they share the sentiment and whether they have similar fears. It's an important matter. The gravity of the situation is fleshed out in the OP.
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.Sup wrote:

Americans always sucked at picking politicians. I remember saying: "They won't pick Bush the second time, they aren't THAT stupid". I was wrong.
They have an opportunity to make good this time, but we must consider the implications of them making another bad choice.
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I just dont understand how the Republicans couldnt find anyone better. Not that Obama's pick was any better.
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"Fuck this forum. Goodbye. - CamPoe"

If you're gonna lie about that then how am I supposed to believe this Palin stuff?
usmarine
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you think the president runs the country?  he/she is a figure head.  why do you think they have speech writers?

also, if mccain was 62, would you be so dramatic?
CameronPoe
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Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

"Fuck this forum. Goodbye. - CamPoe"

If you're gonna lie about that then how am I supposed to believe this Palin stuff?
It's entirely your choice whether you believe it or not. It's a free world.
.Sup
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CameronPoe wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Americans always sucked at picking politicians. I remember saying: "They won't pick Bush the second time, they aren't THAT stupid". I was wrong.
They have an opportunity to make good this time, but we must consider the implications of them making another bad choice.
They will fuck it up again like always. Its either Obama or fuckup.
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CameronPoe
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usmarine wrote:

you think the president runs the country?  he/she is a figure head.  why do you think they have speech writers?

also, if mccain was 62, would you be so dramatic?
If McCain was 62 I'd feel a little bit better about it yes. Are you seriously playing down the power held by the person that wields supreme executive power of a nuclear capable nation currently at war in two countries, making incursions into a third (supposedly an ally) and makes veiled threats against a fourth? We've seen her ilk in office before - he was called George Walker Bush - and he was a moronic cunt.

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usmarine
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CameronPoe wrote:

usmarine wrote:

you think the president runs the country?  he/she is a figure head.  why do you think they have speech writers?

also, if mccain was 62, would you be so dramatic?
If McCain was 62 I'd feel a little bit better about it yes. Are you seriously playing down the power held by the person that wields supreme executive power of a nuclear capable nation currently at war in two countries, making incursions into a third (supposedly an ally) and makes veiled threats against a fourth?
obama said he would attack pakistan and iran.  whats your point?
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wait....so hunting is bad?
or does it disqualify someone as being fit for office?
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.Sup wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Americans always sucked at picking politicians. I remember saying: "They won't pick Bush the second time, they aren't THAT stupid". I was wrong.
They have an opportunity to make good this time, but we must consider the implications of them making another bad choice.
They will fuck it up again like always. Its either Obama or fuckup.
The world wasn't a "disaster" under Bush Sr. or Reagan. Honestly hearing Bush = McCain stuff is getting annoying. You're only going to win so many elections on that platform before people stop buying it.
CameronPoe
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usmarine wrote:

obama said he would attack pakistan and iran.  whats your point?
Didn't he also say he would open dialogue with Iran? He's marginally better than that cunt Palin and a million times better in the context of not being an evangelical bible-moron.
CameronPoe
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Parker wrote:

wait....so hunting is bad?
or does it disqualify someone as being fit for office?
I have nothing against hunting as a pastime. It's a bit hypocritical for a 'Christian' to seek pleasure from blood-lust and have an interest in instruments of death I would have thought however.

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usmarine
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CameronPoe wrote:

usmarine wrote:

obama said he would attack pakistan and iran.  whats your point?
Didn't he also say he would open dialogue with Iran? He's marginally better than that cunt Palin and a million times better in the context of not being an evangelical bible-moron.
they all did.  he also said last night that he would attack targets in pakistan whether they agreed or not.
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usmarine wrote:

they all did.  he also said last night that he would attack targets in pakistan whether they agreed or not.
This thread is not about Barack Obama usmarine. It's about Sarah Palin.
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CameronPoe wrote:

usmarine wrote:

they all did.  he also said last night that he would attack targets in pakistan whether they agreed or not.
This thread is not about Barack Obama usmarine. It's about Sarah Palin.
no, its about the election.  and she is not running for president.  you want to play hypothetical.
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Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

The world wasn't a "disaster" under Bush Sr. or Reagan. Honestly hearing Bush = McCain stuff is getting annoying. You're only going to win so many elections on that platform before people stop buying it.
McCain is not like Bush. But Palin has similarities. And McCain is old and decrepit.
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usmarine wrote:

no, its about the election.  and she is not running for president.  you want to play hypothetical.
Have you ever heard of Harry S. Truman or Gerald Ford?

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