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2008-09-07 19:54:33

#126

imortal: Member; +240|7117|Austin, TX

TrueMusou wrote:
I find it funny that you pull your news sources from a heavily conservative website and call yourself the high and mighty well of infinite knowledge and correctness.

I'm sorry my personal experiences in the SF area for decades fail to satisfy your fantastic vision of SF.

Do us all a favor and fuck off.

here, then: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c … llwell.DTL
That would be the San Fransisco Chronicle. Is that far enough from a 'right-wing rag' for you to consider reliable?

Does this post give any insights into the attitudes considered average in San Fransisco in regards to the military?

2008-09-07 20:12:09

#127

lowing: Banned; +1,662|7103|USA

imortal wrote:
TrueMusou wrote:
I find it funny that you pull your news sources from a heavily conservative website and call yourself the high and mighty well of infinite knowledge and correctness.

I'm sorry my personal experiences in the SF area for decades fail to satisfy your fantastic vision of SF.

Do us all a favor and fuck off.
here, then: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c … llwell.DTL
That would be the San Fransisco Chronicle. Is that far enough from a 'right-wing rag' for you to consider reliable?

Does this post give any insights into the attitudes considered average in San Fransisco in regards to the military?

good article

2008-09-07 23:14:48

#128

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|7127|Canberra, AUS

imortal wrote:
TrueMusou wrote:
I find it funny that you pull your news sources from a heavily conservative website and call yourself the high and mighty well of infinite knowledge and correctness.

I'm sorry my personal experiences in the SF area for decades fail to satisfy your fantastic vision of SF.

Do us all a favor and fuck off.
here, then: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c … llwell.DTL
That would be the San Fransisco Chronicle. Is that far enough from a 'right-wing rag' for you to consider reliable?

Does this post give any insights into the attitudes considered average in San Fransisco in regards to the military?

However many articles you post, it's hard to beat personal experience.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2008-09-08 05:34:05

#129

lowing: Banned; +1,662|7103|USA

Spark wrote:
imortal wrote:
TrueMusou wrote:
I find it funny that you pull your news sources from a heavily conservative website and call yourself the high and mighty well of infinite knowledge and correctness.

I'm sorry my personal experiences in the SF area for decades fail to satisfy your fantastic vision of SF.

Do us all a favor and fuck off.
here, then: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c … llwell.DTL
That would be the San Fransisco Chronicle. Is that far enough from a 'right-wing rag' for you to consider reliable?

Does this post give any insights into the attitudes considered average in San Fransisco in regards to the military?
However many articles you post, it's hard to beat personal experience.

Except when it is personal experience that YOU disagree with.

I asked for articles or links that show I am wrong about SF, yet your boy disappeared I am sure claiming that he doesn't have time for this or we are too thick headed to listen. It couldn't be that he can actually PROVE the city of SF is not what we have shown it is through their own history.

Last edited by lowing (2008-09-08 05:36:08)

2008-09-08 05:41:29

#130

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|7007

lol. What on earth has this got to do with liberalism. If anything it's about unscrupulous capitalism: No money? No room.

2008-09-08 05:56:19

#131

jord: Member; +2,382|7130|The North, beyond the wall.

CameronPoe wrote:
lol. What on earth has this got to do with liberalism. If anything it's about unscrupulous capitalism: No money? No room.

It makes no mention of money, it's because he showed his Army ID card. I swear you better to me you're drinking today Cam.

2008-09-08 05:59:18

#132

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|7007

jord wrote:
CameronPoe wrote:
lol. What on earth has this got to do with liberalism. If anything it's about unscrupulous capitalism: No money? No room.
It makes no mention of money, it's because he showed his Army ID card. I swear you better to me you're drinking today Cam.

Again, what has this got to do with liberalism? The story offers no explanation or background as to why he was refused entry. If an injured member of the defense forces of my country sought refuge from me for an evening I would gladly give it.

2008-09-08 06:00:30

#133

Flaming_Maniac: prince of insufficient light; +2,490|7159|67.222.138.85

CameronPoe wrote:
jord wrote:
CameronPoe wrote:
lol. What on earth has this got to do with liberalism. If anything it's about unscrupulous capitalism: No money? No room.
It makes no mention of money, it's because he showed his Army ID card. I swear you better to me you're drinking today Cam.
Again, what has this got to do with liberalism? The story offers no explanation or background as to why he was refused entry. If an injured member of the defense forces of my country sought refuge from me for an evening I would gladly give it.

the article wrote:
The attack on the switchboards came after it emerged that Corporal Tomos Stringer, 24, had been told by hotel staff that it was company policy not to accept members of the Armed Forces as guests.

2008-09-08 06:01:09

#134

jord: Member; +2,382|7130|The North, beyond the wall.

CameronPoe wrote:
jord wrote:
CameronPoe wrote:
lol. What on earth has this got to do with liberalism. If anything it's about unscrupulous capitalism: No money? No room.
It makes no mention of money, it's because he showed his Army ID card. I swear you better to me you're drinking today Cam.
Again, what has this got to do with liberalism? The story offers no explanation or background as to why he was refused entry. If an injured member of the defense forces of my country sought refuge from me for an evening I would gladly give it.

Nothing to do with liberalism or capitalism, I never said so anyway...

2008-09-08 06:01:36

#135

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|7007

Flaming_Maniac wrote:
CameronPoe wrote:
jord wrote:

It makes no mention of money, it's because he showed his Army ID card. I swear you better to me you're drinking today Cam.
Again, what has this got to do with liberalism? The story offers no explanation or background as to why he was refused entry. If an injured member of the defense forces of my country sought refuge from me for an evening I would gladly give it.
the article wrote:
The attack on the switchboards came after it emerged that Corporal Tomos Stringer, 24, had been told by hotel staff that it was company policy not to accept members of the Armed Forces as guests.

What has this got to do with liberalism?

2008-09-08 06:02:37

#136

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|7007

jord wrote:
CameronPoe wrote:
jord wrote:
It makes no mention of money, it's because he showed his Army ID card. I swear you better to me you're drinking today Cam.
Again, what has this got to do with liberalism? The story offers no explanation or background as to why he was refused entry. If an injured member of the defense forces of my country sought refuge from me for an evening I would gladly give it.
Nothing to do with liberalism or capitalism, I never said so anyway...

Lowing did.

2008-09-08 06:03:21

#137

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|7101

CameronPoe wrote:
Flaming_Maniac wrote:
CameronPoe wrote:

Again, what has this got to do with liberalism? The story offers no explanation or background as to why he was refused entry. If an injured member of the defense forces of my country sought refuge from me for an evening I would gladly give it.
the article wrote:
The attack on the switchboards came after it emerged that Corporal Tomos Stringer, 24, had been told by hotel staff that it was company policy not to accept members of the Armed Forces as guests.
What has this got to do with liberalism?

See my thread. It also applies to soldiers of any country.

2008-09-08 06:04:52

#138

jord: Member; +2,382|7130|The North, beyond the wall.

CameronPoe wrote:
jord wrote:
CameronPoe wrote:

Again, what has this got to do with liberalism? The story offers no explanation or background as to why he was refused entry. If an injured member of the defense forces of my country sought refuge from me for an evening I would gladly give it.
Nothing to do with liberalism or capitalism, I never said so anyway...
Lowing did.

I'm not bothered what Lowing did, I'm pointing out it's nothing to do with capitalism. If he didn't have money for a room then it wouldn't be an issue really would it?

2008-09-08 06:31:22

#139

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|7007

jord wrote:
I'm not bothered what Lowing did, I'm pointing out it's nothing to do with capitalism. If he didn't have money for a room then it wouldn't be an issue really would it?

Agreed.

2008-09-08 07:56:58

#140

Hakei: Banned; +295|6447

Their Hotel, their rules.

2008-09-08 08:01:22

#141

jord: Member; +2,382|7130|The North, beyond the wall.

And those rules have just cost them assholes a good amount of their profit margin.

2008-09-08 08:15:46

#142

jord: Member; +2,382|7130|The North, beyond the wall.

Message: RE: Wounded Soldier Forced to Sleep in Car After Hotel Denies Him a Room

A reaction from a US Veteran standing united with all members and veterans of the British Armed Forces: (E-mailed to: The Big Apple Woking, Crown Square, Woking, Surrey)

Your policy of discrimination, particularly of service members, is despicable. As the retired international general sales manager of International Video Network (an internationally known travel video company, with multiple BBC awards and which has owned DeLorme Travel Guide) and a US veteran, I condemn your policy of discrimination against servicemen of any country. Starting today, I will advise all of my contacts in international travel circles, to adopt a mirror policy toward all of your company locations. You can also forget about any of the 2,837,000 Americans traveling to the United Kingdom, ever booking your facilities again! You deserve bankruptcy.

Lol get in.

2008-09-08 13:08:51

#143

lowing: Banned; +1,662|7103|USA

Well I guess my buddy from SF couldn't show SF and its actions in modern history as anything but an extreme liberal stronghold of anti-military attitude. Oh well. Moving on I guess.

Oh and Cam, I made the comment that liberal would probably praise this hotel for its anti-military attitude. I of course was brow beat with the typical liberal catch all argument......YOUR GENERALIZING. So I asked if I were, then show me where liberal SF would not praise the action of the hotel. So what do I get? EVERYTHING except evidence that SF is NOT the extreme liberal mecca of anti-military attitude.

2008-09-08 13:13:11

#144

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|7007

lowing wrote:
Well I guess my buddy from SF couldn't show SF and its actions in modern history as anything but an extreme liberal stronghold of anti-military attitude. Oh well. Moving on I guess.

Oh and Cam, I made the comment that liberal would probably praise this hotel for its anti-military attitude. I of course was brow beat with the typical liberal catch all argument......YOUR GENERALIZING. So I asked if I were, then show me where liberal SF would not praise the action of the hotel. So what do I get? EVERYTHING except evidence that SF is NOT the extreme liberal mecca of anti-military attitude.

Why would a liberal praise a hotel for an anti-military attitude? The military is the tool with which you defend your borders - it's indispensable.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2008-09-08 13:15:12)

2008-09-08 13:16:33

#145

Vilham: Say wat!?; +580|7218|UK

did anyone actually read the press statement from the hotel company?

Soldiers from the local barracks were banned from the hotel because of causing problems previously. Clearly the receptionist made a massive mistake (should get fired tbh) by just assuming the soldier was from that barracks rather than asking if he was or she misunderstood the ban and thought it applied to all soldiers.

2008-09-08 13:27:30

#146

Spearhead: Gulf coast redneck hippy; +731|7142|Tampa Bay Florida

Vilham wrote:
did anyone actually read the press statement from the hotel company?

Soldiers from the local barracks were banned from the hotel because of causing problems previously. Clearly the receptionist made a massive mistake (should get fired tbh) by just assuming the soldier was from that barracks rather than asking if he was or she misunderstood the ban and thought it applied to all soldiers.

So it wasnt a dumb liberal who hates their country?

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Last edited by Spearhead (2008-09-08 13:27:48)

2008-09-08 13:44:25

#147

jord: Member; +2,382|7130|The North, beyond the wall.

Spearhead wrote:
Vilham wrote:
did anyone actually read the press statement from the hotel company?

Soldiers from the local barracks were banned from the hotel because of causing problems previously. Clearly the receptionist made a massive mistake (should get fired tbh) by just assuming the soldier was from that barracks rather than asking if he was or she misunderstood the ban and thought it applied to all soldiers.
So it wasnt a dumb liberal who hates their country?

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It was an American company.

2008-09-08 14:50:46

#148

Wreckognize: Member; +294|6937

lowing wrote:
Well I guess my buddy from SF couldn't show SF and its actions in modern history as anything but an extreme liberal stronghold of anti-military attitude. Oh well. Moving on I guess.

Oh and Cam, I made the comment that liberal would probably praise this hotel for its anti-military attitude. I of course was brow beat with the typical liberal catch all argument......YOUR GENERALIZING. So I asked if I were, then show me where liberal SF would not praise the action of the hotel. So what do I get? EVERYTHING except evidence that SF is NOT the extreme liberal mecca of anti-military attitude.

So a few articles written by a few people represent the attitude every last one of the 764,976 people living in San Francisco? This is not generalizing how?

So do you actually believe your own bullshit?

2008-09-08 21:48:47

#149

imortal: Member; +240|7117|Austin, TX

CameronPoe wrote:
lowing wrote:
Well I guess my buddy from SF couldn't show SF and its actions in modern history as anything but an extreme liberal stronghold of anti-military attitude. Oh well. Moving on I guess.

Oh and Cam, I made the comment that liberal would probably praise this hotel for its anti-military attitude. I of course was brow beat with the typical liberal catch all argument......YOUR GENERALIZING. So I asked if I were, then show me where liberal SF would not praise the action of the hotel. So what do I get? EVERYTHING except evidence that SF is NOT the extreme liberal mecca of anti-military attitude.
Why would a liberal praise a hotel for an anti-military attitude? The military is the tool with which you defend your borders - it's indispensable.

See, Cam, that is what you get for thinking reasonably. Your brother and I had a discussion on this. There is a wolrd of difference between what you consider to be liberalism, and the beast we know here in the US as American Liberalism. It is a much more rabid beast, and makes rather less sense than you do.

2008-09-09 07:11:28

#150

lowing: Banned; +1,662|7103|USA

Obey_m0rph3us wrote:
lowing wrote:
Well I guess my buddy from SF couldn't show SF and its actions in modern history as anything but an extreme liberal stronghold of anti-military attitude. Oh well. Moving on I guess.

Oh and Cam, I made the comment that liberal would probably praise this hotel for its anti-military attitude. I of course was brow beat with the typical liberal catch all argument......YOUR GENERALIZING. So I asked if I were, then show me where liberal SF would not praise the action of the hotel. So what do I get? EVERYTHING except evidence that SF is NOT the extreme liberal mecca of anti-military attitude.
So a few articles written by a few people represent the attitude every last one of the 764,976 people living in San Francisco? This is not generalizing how?

So do you actually believe your own bullshit?

Obviously, ( since you will not deny SF its place of honor as one of the most extreme liberal cities in America) you feel that, out of 764,976 people if only 10 are liberal minded, then it is considered generalizing.

This "you're a racist"

"you're generalizing"

Are the 2 biggest arguments liberals try and make. They do this for 1 reason, and that is because any legit argument they make can not hold up to scrutinizing. There fore, the above mentioned "arguments" are the only straws they have left to grasp, and they know this.

This is why my SF buddy disappeared, he could not defend the city with proof that it is NOT what it is labeled. He just tells me to "fuck off" and leaves. I love when a light gets shinned on a liberal and watch them scatter.

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