I did not say that because it was an old argument that it was invalid. I expressed my sentiments that it is a cop-out. As with many religious arguments, the conclusion (a god exists) has already been reached, and arguments for that proposition are created subsequently. Hardly logical.imortal wrote:
I was offering possibilities; something I see precious other people here doing. Also, because it is an old argument does not invalidate it. And yes, it can be difficult to judge the possibilities of a 'message from god' from ordinary happenings; it does make it rather convient for hindsight, does it not?
The greeks used to refer to people who heard 'voices' as being touched by the gods. Now, we just throw them in a nut house or out on the street.
"Sometimes, if you do things right, nobody will know you did them at all." God, in Futurama
I am simply trying to debate here. There has to be some wiggle room between "There is a God, and nothing you tell me will prove otherwise," and "There is NO God, and nothing you tell me will prove otherwise."
Yes, we do throw those who talk to a god into a nut house. For good reason- Lack of sanity. If I talked to Zeus, or the Easter Bunny, or my dead ancestors, it would be no different.
You also misunderstand my argument. As an atheist, I lack belief in supernatural beings. Logically, I consider the possibility of supernatural beings, particularly gods, to be low (albeit not zero), and therefore I lack belief. I am completely open to change, but I have yet to hear a compelling argument. To an atheist such as I, the idea of a god seems archaic and without any place in reality- Even childish. It is no different than the existence of the Tooth Fairy. How would you react if a forty year old man attempted to convince you that money would be under your pillow if you left money there the previous night? Imagine this man is one of many, billions who rule the planet, attempting to rule governments and teach children according to this doctrine. In essence, it becomes a grand comedy. Against this silliness, I would not be prepared to so easily give myself to religion without sufficient evidence. No, I do not adhere to "There is NO gods, and nothing you will tell me will prove otherwise". I only lack belief in the subject.