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TrollmeaT wrote:

Come on people, pull yourselves out of the middle ages. Look to reason not some squishy feeling. If there was a God he would have talked to me through prayer the 4 years I was "born again", he didn't therefore he doesn't exist & the doctrine is null & void. I regret those 4 years of wasted life but at least my naive arse learned something.

No if there is a god he would more than likely ignore you as you are nothing as to him.

Just because religion is blatant bullshit doesn't mean god is.

Last edited by Vilham (2008-08-03 18:05:38)

Vilham wrote:

TrollmeaT wrote:

Come on people, pull yourselves out of the middle ages. Look to reason not some squishy feeling. If there was a God he would have talked to me through prayer the 4 years I was "born again", he didn't therefore he doesn't exist & the doctrine is null & void. I regret those 4 years of wasted life but at least my naive arse learned something.

No if there is a god he would more than likely ignore you as you are nothing as to him.

Just because religion is blatant bullshit doesn't mean god is.

Not according to the bible, if you accept him into your heart & life he's suppose to have a personal relationship with you then.
He didn't make his prophets wait 4 years to talk to them, sorry I call bullshit.

I can deal with some type of god that doesn't relate to any religion that fits no other preconceptions. It's when man tells me what to believe is when I get pissed. But come on reason says its a fairy tale.

Last edited by TrollmeaT (2008-08-03 22:40:12)

TrollmeaT wrote:

Vilham wrote:

TrollmeaT wrote:

Come on people, pull yourselves out of the middle ages. Look to reason not some squishy feeling. If there was a God he would have talked to me through prayer the 4 years I was "born again", he didn't therefore he doesn't exist & the doctrine is null & void. I regret those 4 years of wasted life but at least my naive arse learned something.

No if there is a god he would more than likely ignore you as you are nothing as to him.

Just because religion is blatant bullshit doesn't mean god is.

Not according to the bible, if you accept him into your heart & life he's suppose to have a personal relationship with you then.
He didn't make his prophets wait 4 years to talk to them, sorry I call bullshit.

Perhaps he was but you weren't listening


As to this debate id say that God made us as a companion, but he gave us free will, otherwise we would not be a companion but another minion in affect, like the angels.

Turquoise wrote:

bakinacake wrote:

TrollmeaT wrote:

Not according to the bible, if you accept him into your heart & life he's suppose to have a personal relationship with you then.
He didn't make his prophets wait 4 years to talk to them, sorry I call bullshit.

Perhaps he was but you weren't listening


As to this debate id say that God made us as a companion, but he gave us free will, otherwise we would not be a companion but another minion in affect, like the angels.

It's rather odd to be made as a companion to a being you've yet to perceive.

Its not really if you think about it, i mean adam knew God personally, even after the fall, and after he ate from the tree of good and evil, we are like friends, made for God

Turquoise wrote:

bakinacake wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

It's rather odd to be made as a companion to a being you've yet to perceive.

Its not really if you think about it, i mean adam knew God personally, even after the fall, and after he ate from the tree of good and evil, we are like friends, made for God

Umm...  well, it would be a lot easier to fathom this creator guy if he'd just show up and reveal himself.  I'm not going to take the word of others or some book.

He appears in misterious ways, he may not show his face, but in the actions that he does. E.g. the stars.

bakinacake wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

bakinacake wrote:

Its not really if you think about it, i mean adam knew God personally, even after the fall, and after he ate from the tree of good and evil, we are like friends, made for God

Umm...  well, it would be a lot easier to fathom this creator guy if he'd just show up and reveal himself.  I'm not going to take the word of others or some book.

He appears in misterious ways, he may not show his face, but in the actions that he does. E.g. the stars.

Out of curiosity, how do you know it's the Christian god?  How come it can't be Vishnu or Allah?

Last edited by Turquoise (2008-08-03 19:33:31)

Heard this joke the other day:

A Vietnamese man was trying to convince me that Adam & Eve were also Vietnamese.

I said to him "Look, if Adam & Eve were Vietnamese they would've eaten the snake, not the apple."
inb4 that's racist
lol

imortal wrote:

TrollmeaT wrote:

Come on people, pull yourselves out of the middle ages. Look to reason not some squishy feeling. If there was a God he would have talked to me through prayer the 4 years I was "born again", he didn't therefore he doesn't exist & the doctrine is null & void. I regret those 4 years of wasted life but at least my naive arse learned something.

Someone just might have a bit of inflated self worth.  If God spoke to us in terms that would leave no doubt, then there would be no need for faith, would there?

Oh, and the "I did not see or hear it so it does not exist" argument is a bit egocentric as well.  Not to mention fallacious.  I have not seen a black hole with my own eyes, but I believe they exist.

Worst example possible with the black hole. You can see direct effects of the black hole.

Vilham wrote:

imortal wrote:

TrollmeaT wrote:

Come on people, pull yourselves out of the middle ages. Look to reason not some squishy feeling. If there was a God he would have talked to me through prayer the 4 years I was "born again", he didn't therefore he doesn't exist & the doctrine is null & void. I regret those 4 years of wasted life but at least my naive arse learned something.

Someone just might have a bit of inflated self worth.  If God spoke to us in terms that would leave no doubt, then there would be no need for faith, would there?

Oh, and the "I did not see or hear it so it does not exist" argument is a bit egocentric as well.  Not to mention fallacious.  I have not seen a black hole with my own eyes, but I believe they exist.

Worst example possible with the black hole. You can see direct effects of the black hole.

I would not say the worst possible... but you have a point that it is a bad example.   Granted, there is also an argument that you can see the results of God's handiwork wherever you look, but that is also a bad example, and a good start for the entire thread to decend to a shouting match. 

Would quantum theory be a better argument?

Also, would it be more acceptable to call religeous belief "The Theory of God?"  After all, without proof, all faith really is is an idea.

DBBrinson1 wrote:

Vilham wrote:

TrollmeaT wrote:

Come on people, pull yourselves out of the middle ages. Look to reason not some squishy feeling. If there was a God he would have talked to me through prayer the 4 years I was "born again", he didn't therefore he doesn't exist & the doctrine is null & void. I regret those 4 years of wasted life but at least my naive arse learned something.

No if there is a god he would more than likely ignore you as you are nothing as to him.

Just because religion is blatant bullshit doesn't mean god is.

Soo.. Does that make him evil for ignoring human suffering?

I personally don't believe in God, but if your Christian you believe in a god that does care about you, knows before anyone even came into existence they would live a life of suffering then yes Christian god is "evil".

the big man is on team good guys.  Only a great bloke could have invented something as awesome as tits.

God Save the Queen wrote:

what about tit cancer?

They sinned by not worshipping enough cock.