CammRobb
Banned
+1,510|6497|Carnoustie MASSIF
Imo, I would try and get behind the attacker and hit him in teh face as hard as I can, hopefully knocking him out, 'cause if you are behind him you have the element of surprise at least, and hopefully that would spur other passengers to jump in and take him down. hopefully

Last edited by 1n_n07h1ng_w3_7ru57 (2008-08-01 05:48:37)

Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6905|Long Island, New York

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Reciprocity wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

also known as arrogance and cowardice
or millions of years of evolution.
that have produced socially acceptable but frowned upon reactions, such as watching an innocent man be decapitated
Such tough talk from behind a monitor.

Should people have done something? You bet. Do I blame them for not? Nope. Stopping someone from decapitating someone who is already dead is not worth losing my life and making my family go through years of grief.

You talk so tough from behind your monitor like you'd be some masked hero who'd save the day if this happened, but I bet if you were placed into a situation like this, you'd do the same thing as the rest of them.

I'm seriously willing to bet money that you'd do absolutely nothing if you were in the same situation. As anyone else.

Last edited by Poseidon (2008-08-01 06:56:02)

CammRobb
Banned
+1,510|6497|Carnoustie MASSIF
I know what you're saying and it is easy to say things like that when you're not in the situation but I'm pretty sure I would at least try and stop the guy. Not trying to be a hero but I would hope someone would try and save me if this type of thing happened to me.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6905|Long Island, New York

1n_n07h1ng_w3_7ru57 wrote:

I know what you're saying and it is easy to say things like that when you're not in the situation but I'm pretty sure I would at least try and stop the guy. Not trying to be a hero but I would hope someone would try and save me if this type of thing happened to me.
no, you wouldn't, unless you are trained in hand to hand combat or have balls as big as bowling balls like Parker, who's also an expert with knives.

Basically, if you know you're big enough to take him or have the knowledge to take him, you will. If you're the average 5'11" man, you won't.

FM, a high school student like myself, frowns on people for not trying to stop someone wielding a COMBAT KNIFE. There is no way on earth that he'd try to stop him.

Edit: oh wait, inb4 FM's typical emoticon that he always throws out when someone disagrees with him.

Last edited by Poseidon (2008-08-01 08:21:34)

God Save the Queen
Banned
+628|6710|tropical regions of london
Im an expert at kicking ass.
Ryan
Member
+1,230|7210|Alberta, Canada

1n_n07h1ng_w3_7ru57 wrote:

Imo, I would try and get behind the attacker and hit him in teh face as hard as I can, hopefully knocking him out, 'cause if you are behind him you have the element of surprise at least, and hopefully that would spur other passengers to jump in and take him down. hopefully
You can't hit somebody in the face when you are behind them, unless you somehow reach around and smack them.
I think by the time anyone knew what was happening to the poor guy, it would have already been too late. He would have eventually bled to death on the trip to the hospital.

Not many people would risk their own lives to save another, unless it was someone they loved or cared for.
Mint Sauce
Frighteningly average
+780|6653|eng
I love behind the monitor internet tough guys that would definately definately definately stand up against a batshit crazy psycho who is busy decapitating someone on a public bus.

Personally I would run the fuck away as fast as I could.
#rekt
God Save the Queen
Banned
+628|6710|tropical regions of london
Ill kick all of your asses


at the same time


blindfolded

Last edited by God Save the Queen (2008-08-01 08:15:07)

Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7133|UK
Guys why are u even arguing why ppl didnt stop him? If he stabbed the guy really quickly 30-40 times then the guy was dead within about 5 seconds, why should people risk their lives for a corpse.

Ill also remind you that one guy pumped up on adrenaline can overpower 4 people relatively easily, add the fact that this person has a knife and probably doesn't give a shit about anything = even more people getting stabbed.

Last edited by Vilham (2008-08-01 08:19:15)

God Save the Queen
Banned
+628|6710|tropical regions of london
what if its 4 people pumped up on adrenaline against the single pumper?
Parker
isteal
+1,452|6761|The Gem Saloon

Vilham wrote:

Guys why are u even arguing why ppl didnt stop him? If he stabbed the guy really quickly 30-40 times then the guy was dead within about 5 seconds, why should people risk their lives for a corpse.
this is very true. depending on the location and depth of the cut, he could have very well been dead before he hit the floor.
if you stab someone deep enough in the stomach, death is instantaneous.
he would have most definitely been dead by the time anyone would have been able to reach him and stop him.


however, it is easy to site here and punch on the keyboard about how we are all such badasses.
i myself have seen enough death, and if i was forced to see that myself....i would probably lose it.
like...hair on the back of my neck stand up, revert to instincts, fucking lose it.





at the end of the day, its fight or flight.
people are just made differently.
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7074|67.222.138.85
lol, as soon as anyone says something about doing something they become "big tough internet hero". Some people don't pass people up on the side of the road, some people stop to help, even though the majority of people are in the former category. You rationalize your choice to stay as safe as possible by hiding behind the mediocrity of everyone else.

Flight 93.

edit: There is no crap about badassery, not from me anyways, just about being a decent fucking human being. A decent person doesn't watch someone else be decapitated and do nothing.
Parker
isteal
+1,452|6761|The Gem Saloon
surviving isnt mediocre.
God Save the Queen
Banned
+628|6710|tropical regions of london

Parker wrote:

if you stab someone deep enough in the stomach, death is instantaneous.
whaaaa?


Ive always been taught that a gut wound is the exact opposite of instantaneous.  what exactly are you damaging that will cause instant death?  gut wounds are agonizing but they take the longest to die from.  I mean, maybe if you bleed to death.  You could bleed out in 30 seconds.  Maybe if you enter shock.  But then you wouldnt be dead.

Ive never heard this parker.  as far as I know there is nothing in the gut that serves as an off button.

Last edited by God Save the Queen (2008-08-01 10:29:52)

Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7074|67.222.138.85

Parker wrote:

surviving isnt mediocre.
it's the very definition of it

and GS is right, I don't know what you're on about gut wounds. Maybe if you get all the way to the spinal cord.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6988|London, England
I'd have got up, bent his knife and then slammed him through the roof of the bus leaving him dazed yet in a perfect condition for him to be lawfully arrested by the cops as I make my speedy exit
God Save the Queen
Banned
+628|6710|tropical regions of london

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Parker wrote:

surviving isnt mediocre.
it's the very definition of it

and GS is right, I don't know what you're on about gut wounds. Maybe if you get all the way to the spinal cord.
I dont think that would even cause instant death.  Ive seen nasty grusome 25MM laden gut wounds.  fucking gross.

Last edited by God Save the Queen (2008-08-01 10:32:05)

Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7074|67.222.138.85

God Save the Queen wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Parker wrote:

surviving isnt mediocre.
it's the very definition of it

and GS is right, I don't know what you're on about gut wounds. Maybe if you get all the way to the spinal cord.
I dont think that would even cause instant death.  Ive seen nasty grusome 25MM laden gut wounds.  fucking gross.
I would imagine it would make shock come faster and make you effectively useless though
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6988|London, England
Getting hit by 25mm in the gut would surely instantly kill you
Parker
isteal
+1,452|6761|The Gem Saloon
https://www.gotavapen.se/gota/artiklar/fs/get_to1.jpg
God Save the Queen
Banned
+628|6710|tropical regions of london
I saw them after the fact.  Couldnt tell you how long it took em to die.  I was surprised at how little blood there was.  It pretty much barbq'ed intestines.  You see some dead insurgent with burnt to a crisp guts hanging out.  thats HE.  small arms damage is messy.
God Save the Queen
Banned
+628|6710|tropical regions of london
that doesnt explain anything at all.  Im trying to figure out how a cut in the gut will kill someone instantly.  Id like to think I have a fairly strong knowledge of human anatomy.  Stomach wounds usually maim and end up being fatal if not attended to promptly. 

I mean, you could have your entire guts spilling out, holding them with your hands and you could still be alive in agonizing pain.
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7074|67.222.138.85
I seriously question your source. It varies so much from person to person, I find it hard to believe they narrowed them all down to the second.
God Save the Queen
Banned
+628|6710|tropical regions of london
just a good reminder.  if you ever come across a stomach wound, lay the casualty on his back, touch as little of the exposed intestines as possible, cover with dressing and DO NOT give the casualty any water, no matter how much they want it.
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7074|67.222.138.85

God Save the Queen wrote:

just a good reminder.  if you ever come across a stomach wound, lay the casualty on his back, touch as little of the exposed intestines as possible, cover with dressing and DO NOT give the casualty any water, no matter how much they want it.
do you apply pressure to the wound?

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