HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6217|Washington DC

usmarine2 wrote:

ban cars, they emit pollutants.  ban people from going to the beach, skin cancer.
For the first one, again... even if there was a movement to ban automobiles, the automobile lobby is also very strong:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobbying_i … y_spending

As for the second one, sunscreen. And marine, they're not preventing you from eating trans fats. They're preventing restaurants from selling food that has it. I honestly don't see how it's different from banning ephedra.
usmarine2
Banned
+233|6047|Dublin, Ohio

HurricaИe wrote:

usmarine2 wrote:

ban cars, they emit pollutants.  ban people from going to the beach, skin cancer.
For the first one, again... even if there was a movement to ban automobiles, the automobile lobby is also very strong:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobbying_i … y_spending

As for the second one, sunscreen. And marine, they're not preventing you from eating trans fats. They're preventing restaurants from selling food that has it. I honestly don't see how it's different from banning ephedra.
sunscreen?  ok, what if they forced people to wear sunscreen?  would you be ok wit that?
HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6217|Washington DC

usmarine2 wrote:

HurricaИe wrote:

usmarine2 wrote:

ban cars, they emit pollutants.  ban people from going to the beach, skin cancer.
For the first one, again... even if there was a movement to ban automobiles, the automobile lobby is also very strong:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobbying_i … y_spending

As for the second one, sunscreen. And marine, they're not preventing you from eating trans fats. They're preventing restaurants from selling food that has it. I honestly don't see how it's different from banning ephedra.
sunscreen?  ok, what if they forced people to wear sunscreen?  would you be ok wit that?
Probably not. But again, they aren't 'forcing' anything on you. You are STILL allowed to buy foods with trans fats at the super market, you are STILL allowed to eat foods with trans fats. Restaurants just can't sell it to you.

If there were legal repercussions for the consumption of trans fats (much like your hypothetical scenario of making sunscreen law) then I'd have a problem with it.
topal63
. . .
+533|6974

usmarine2 wrote:

HurricaИe wrote:

usmarine2 wrote:

ban cars, they emit pollutants.  ban people from going to the beach, skin cancer.
For the first one, again... even if there was a movement to ban automobiles, the automobile lobby is also very strong:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobbying_i … y_spending

As for the second one, sunscreen. And marine, they're not preventing you from eating trans fats. They're preventing restaurants from selling food that has it. I honestly don't see how it's different from banning ephedra.
sunscreen?  ok, what if they forced people to wear sunscreen?  would you be ok wit that?
We have a seatbelt law in Florida. That infringes upon my rights, their uncomfortable and I don't like wearing them, I don't want to wear them. And there hasn't always been a seatbelt law, but there is now.

I break the law; I don't wear them - and I am subject to a fine if caught.
Now with regards to this useless-fat (trans-fat) guess what If you can find some - eat it and die - no fine for you if caught.

Last edited by topal63 (2008-07-27 08:28:41)

usmarine2
Banned
+233|6047|Dublin, Ohio

HurricaИe wrote:

[q
Probably not. But again, they aren't 'forcing' anything on you. You are STILL allowed to buy foods with trans fats at the super market, you are STILL allowed to eat foods with trans fats.
for now.  they are forcing.  they are forcing you to cook and learn how to cook.

its just stupid they waste their time on shit like this.
HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6217|Washington DC

usmarine2 wrote:

HurricaИe wrote:

[q
Probably not. But again, they aren't 'forcing' anything on you. You are STILL allowed to buy foods with trans fats at the super market, you are STILL allowed to eat foods with trans fats.
for now.  they are forcing.  they are forcing you to cook and learn how to cook.

its just stupid they waste their time on shit like this.
How are they forcing you to learn how to cook? You can still go to a restaurant. There are lots of substitutes for trans-fats:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/nutrition-blog/MY00156
http://www.americanpalmoil.com/foodproducts.html

I do agree there are better things to be doing that imposing a ban on trans fats.

Last edited by HurricaИe (2008-07-27 08:34:16)

usmarine2
Banned
+233|6047|Dublin, Ohio

HurricaИe wrote:

How are they forcing you to learn how to cook? You can still go to a restaurant. There are lots of substitutes for trans-fats:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/nutrition-blog/MY00156
http://www.americanpalmoil.com/foodproducts.html
just leave my god damn food alone and worry about more important things.  simple as that.
HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6217|Washington DC

usmarine2 wrote:

HurricaИe wrote:

How are they forcing you to learn how to cook? You can still go to a restaurant. There are lots of substitutes for trans-fats:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/nutrition-blog/MY00156
http://www.americanpalmoil.com/foodproducts.html
just leave my god damn food alone and worry about more important things.  simple as that.
like i said in my edit, I too think there are more important things, but the ban is already said and done.
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|6927|UK
Ban uswhiner for bringing down the collective intelligence of the human race.




Yes, i am already fisting myself.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
usmarine2
Banned
+233|6047|Dublin, Ohio

m3thod wrote:

Yes, i am already fisting myself.
good job
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6661|North Carolina

lowing wrote:

The point has been made folks, this bills opens the door for the govt. to dictate to us what we eat. It is another step in the direction of govt. control over our lives.
Are sanitation standards "government controlling our lives?"
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|6927|UK

usmarine2 wrote:

m3thod wrote:

Yes, i am already fisting myself and thinking of you while you source links on wiki.
good job
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
usmarine2
Banned
+233|6047|Dublin, Ohio

Turquoise wrote:

lowing wrote:

The point has been made folks, this bills opens the door for the govt. to dictate to us what we eat. It is another step in the direction of govt. control over our lives.
Are sanitation standards "government controlling our lives?"
what?  your shit affects me so to say.  me eating a burger does not affect you in any way, shape, or form.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6661|North Carolina

usmarine2 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

lowing wrote:

The point has been made folks, this bills opens the door for the govt. to dictate to us what we eat. It is another step in the direction of govt. control over our lives.
Are sanitation standards "government controlling our lives?"
what?  your shit affects me so to say.  me eating a burger does not affect you in any way, shape, or form.
It does if I have to pay for your health problems from eating too much trans fats.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6907|USA

Turquoise wrote:

lowing wrote:

The point has been made folks, this bills opens the door for the govt. to dictate to us what we eat. It is another step in the direction of govt. control over our lives.
Are sanitation standards "government controlling our lives?"
Huh? What does one have to do with the other? I couldn't care less if you want to eat yuorself to a heart attack. I do care however, if I have to live with your feces. kinda out of left field with this post there Turq.
usmarine2
Banned
+233|6047|Dublin, Ohio

Turquoise wrote:

It does if I have to pay for your health problems from eating too much trans fats.
did I miss the part where you pay for my health care?
HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6217|Washington DC

usmarine2 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

It does if I have to pay for your health problems from eating too much trans fats.
did I miss the part where you pay for my health care?
If we get national health care
usmarine2
Banned
+233|6047|Dublin, Ohio

HurricaИe wrote:

usmarine2 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

It does if I have to pay for your health problems from eating too much trans fats.
did I miss the part where you pay for my health care?
If we get national health care
lol.
Switch
Knee Deep In Clunge
+489|6719|Tyne & Wear, England
Bollocks, like others have said, where do you draw the line?  Everything carries some element of risk and It's a personal choice for that individual to make.

Let people eat themselves into an early grave.  On an increasingly overcrowded planet we could do with it to be honest.
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6661|North Carolina

usmarine2 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

It does if I have to pay for your health problems from eating too much trans fats.
did I miss the part where you pay for my health care?
You missed the part where California has more socialized care than the nation as a whole.  It makes economic sense why Californians would want to ban trans fats.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6661|North Carolina

lowing wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

lowing wrote:

The point has been made folks, this bills opens the door for the govt. to dictate to us what we eat. It is another step in the direction of govt. control over our lives.
Are sanitation standards "government controlling our lives?"
Huh? What does one have to do with the other? I couldn't care less if you want to eat yuorself to a heart attack. I do care however, if I have to live with your feces. kinda out of left field with this post there Turq.
It's not out of left field if your health affects how much I pay for healthcare, which is the case in California.  I'm not saying a ban would be good for say, Texas.
HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6217|Washington DC

KILLSWITCH wrote:

Bollocks, like others have said, where do you draw the line?  Everything carries some element of risk and It's a personal choice for that individual to make.

Let people eat themselves into an early grave.  On an increasingly overcrowded planet we could do with it to be honest.
people
are
still
allowed
to
eat
trans
fats
restaurants
just
can't
sell
foods
with
trans
fats
in
them
usmarine2
Banned
+233|6047|Dublin, Ohio

HurricaИe wrote:

KILLSWITCH wrote:

Bollocks, like others have said, where do you draw the line?  Everything carries some element of risk and It's a personal choice for that individual to make.

Let people eat themselves into an early grave.  On an increasingly overcrowded planet we could do with it to be honest.
people
are
still
allowed
to
eat
trans
fats
restaurants
just
can't
sell
foods
with
trans
fats
in
them
it
is
one
step
towards
more
control
r
tard
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6661|North Carolina

KILLSWITCH wrote:

Bollocks, like others have said, where do you draw the line?  Everything carries some element of risk and It's a personal choice for that individual to make.

Let people eat themselves into an early grave.  On an increasingly overcrowded planet we could do with it to be honest.
I see what you're saying, but with your socialized system, what others eat directly affects how much you pay for socialized care.
Switch
Knee Deep In Clunge
+489|6719|Tyne & Wear, England

HurricaИe wrote:

KILLSWITCH wrote:

Bollocks, like others have said, where do you draw the line?  Everything carries some element of risk and It's a personal choice for that individual to make.

Let people eat themselves into an early grave.  On an increasingly overcrowded planet we could do with it to be honest.
people
are
still
allowed
to
eat
trans
fats
restaurants
just
can't
sell
foods
with
trans
fats
in
them
Gee ... thanks for pointing out the blatantly obvious.

They should have the choice to eat trans fats in a restaraunt if they fucking want.

More and more countries are turning into nanny states (I'm living in one) and it pisses me off something rotten.  The government is supposed to be here to serve us not control us.
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.

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