Mutantbear
Semi Constructive Criticism
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Willow 10/10

one of those, "pop it in after 10 years and get a nostalgic value out of it" movies
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Reciprocity
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any movie relying on any archetype is derivative garbage not even worth a rating.

Last edited by Reciprocity (2012-04-09 18:21:46)

AussieReaper
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Willow

10/10

Better than Shawshank by a Green mile.
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unnamednewbie13
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Pirates 4: third time through; watched with poker face / 10
val kilmer and a midget lol

what about the movies dark crystal and labyrinth??? those r 10/10 babay
RTHKI
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centurion - bad
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Ty
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Pirates 4: third time through; watched with poker face / 10
If this is the same Pirates that I think it is - I didn't know they made a third, let alone a fourth.

Last movie I saw was Blade Runner I think... or it was The Inbetweeners Movie. Both good.
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Ty wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Pirates 4: third time through; watched with poker face / 10
If this is the same Pirates that I think it is - I didn't know they made a third, let alone a fourth.

Last movie I saw was Blade Runner I think... or it was The Inbetweeners Movie. Both good.
get your mind out of the gutter
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Kimmmmmmmmmmmm wrote:

val kilmer and a midget lol

what about the movies dark crystal and labyrinth??? those r 10/10 babay
"Oh those are just derivative retardations of plots! Go watch a REAL movie."
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Shawshank Redemption - 5/10 Weak script, over-acted schmaltzy characters, cheesy plot.
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Miggle wrote:

Ty wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Pirates 4: third time through; watched with poker face / 10
If this is the same Pirates that I think it is - I didn't know they made a third, let alone a fourth.

Last movie I saw was Blade Runner I think... or it was The Inbetweeners Movie. Both good.
get your mind out of the gutter
Couldn't help it. There's just something alluring about... p-irate hunting.
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Uzique
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Shawshank Redemption - 5/10 Weak script, over-acted schmaltzy characters, cheesy plot.
naaah, the shawshank redemption actually improves on king's weaknesses in my opinion. the vast cinema-watching public tend to agree, as well. who over-acted in that film? i think it's one of the only films where i can take morgan freeman's voice for longer than 15 minutes. and what's cheesy about the plot? i guess you didn't really like that girl with the dragon tattoo garbage you tote in your avatar, then, because that's basically the same cookie-cutter narrative form. there's nothing wrong with relying on a genre/narrative form if you can do something interesting with it - think of all the new neo-noir films that reinvent a genre nearly 100 years old. the prison escape (or more generically the 'man suffering injustice') convention is as old as ancient greek literature, and it still serves well. the important part is what is done with it, and to what effect. in the case of the girl with the dragon tattoo (which i assume you love), it is window-dressed with a female fetish and stuff that gives male cinema-goers a bump in their banana republic khakis. to me that's not particularly interesting. in the case of avatar, they've taken a cliche and generic narrative form - the 'the good guys are actually the bad guys can't you see!' shtick - and have done absolutely nothing with it. they've just placed it right under your nose so it's so obvious that it's aggravating, and have stylized that complete lack of substance-innovation with several billion dollars' worth of pomp and glitter. to me that does not make an average film. anyoe can take a stock plot, do nothing with it, and recreate it with the 'latest omg technology'. in 100 year's time someone could remake dancing with wolves again, only with the latest innovation in cinema-experience technology. would it still get a 7? if so i think you need to get your cinéaste goggles recalibrated.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Shawshank Redemption - 5/10 Weak script, over-acted schmaltzy characters, cheesy plot.
yeah i know you prefer fast and the furious
Reciprocity
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avatar 10/10   -unparalleled cinematic experience

same with willow and the original teenage mutant ninja turtles.
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Shame 7.5/10
Dilbert_X
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Uzique wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Shawshank Redemption - 5/10 Weak script, over-acted schmaltzy characters, cheesy plot.
naaah, the shawshank redemption actually improves on king's weaknesses in my opinion. the vast cinema-watching public tend to agree, as well. who over-acted in that film? i think it's one of the only films where i can take morgan freeman's voice for longer than 15 minutes. and what's cheesy about the plot? i guess you didn't really like that girl with the dragon tattoo garbage you tote in your avatar, then, because that's basically the same cookie-cutter narrative form. there's nothing wrong with relying on a genre/narrative form if you can do something interesting with it - think of all the new neo-noir films that reinvent a genre nearly 100 years old. the prison escape (or more generically the 'man suffering injustice') convention is as old as ancient greek literature, and it still serves well. the important part is what is done with it, and to what effect. in the case of the girl with the dragon tattoo (which i assume you love), it is window-dressed with a female fetish and stuff that gives male cinema-goers a bump in their banana republic khakis. to me that's not particularly interesting. in the case of avatar, they've taken a cliche and generic narrative form - the 'the good guys are actually the bad guys can't you see!' shtick - and have done absolutely nothing with it. they've just placed it right under your nose so it's so obvious that it's aggravating, and have stylized that complete lack of substance-innovation with several billion dollars' worth of pomp and glitter. to me that does not make an average film. anyoe can take a stock plot, do nothing with it, and recreate it with the 'latest omg technology'. in 100 year's time someone could remake dancing with wolves again, only with the latest innovation in cinema-experience technology. would it still get a 7? if so i think you need to get your cinéaste goggles recalibrated.
Shawshank Redemption is pure cheese and schmaltz, liked by the same people who think Pulp Fiction has some value.

The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo is a reasonable film, but not great, I like it for other reasons
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Shawshank Redemption is pure cheese and schmaltz, liked by the same people who think Pulp Fiction has some value.

The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo is a reasonable film, but not great, I like it for other reasons
Totally disagree... As I am apparently the only person on the planet that didn't like Pulp Fiction (yes, even after the required 2700 viewings that makes it "grow" on you), I think Shawshank is one of the greatest movies of all time. It sits about a 9 for me.

But that is for me... You are allowed your own opinion here. That is why it is "Rate the last movie you've seen" and not "dictate the rating everyone else shall accept for the last movie you've seen."
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Reefer Madness .../10.

Always heard about this "film" referenced in other movies and decided to check it out. The only thing it left me with other than laughs is the question of what topics in this day and age are we fear mongering about that are total bullshit. To see what I mean below is the opening text of the movie ...

https://goo.gl/B7yhi
Uzique
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Uzique wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Shawshank Redemption - 5/10 Weak script, over-acted schmaltzy characters, cheesy plot.
naaah, the shawshank redemption actually improves on king's weaknesses in my opinion. the vast cinema-watching public tend to agree, as well. who over-acted in that film? i think it's one of the only films where i can take morgan freeman's voice for longer than 15 minutes. and what's cheesy about the plot? i guess you didn't really like that girl with the dragon tattoo garbage you tote in your avatar, then, because that's basically the same cookie-cutter narrative form. there's nothing wrong with relying on a genre/narrative form if you can do something interesting with it - think of all the new neo-noir films that reinvent a genre nearly 100 years old. the prison escape (or more generically the 'man suffering injustice') convention is as old as ancient greek literature, and it still serves well. the important part is what is done with it, and to what effect. in the case of the girl with the dragon tattoo (which i assume you love), it is window-dressed with a female fetish and stuff that gives male cinema-goers a bump in their banana republic khakis. to me that's not particularly interesting. in the case of avatar, they've taken a cliche and generic narrative form - the 'the good guys are actually the bad guys can't you see!' shtick - and have done absolutely nothing with it. they've just placed it right under your nose so it's so obvious that it's aggravating, and have stylized that complete lack of substance-innovation with several billion dollars' worth of pomp and glitter. to me that does not make an average film. anyoe can take a stock plot, do nothing with it, and recreate it with the 'latest omg technology'. in 100 year's time someone could remake dancing with wolves again, only with the latest innovation in cinema-experience technology. would it still get a 7? if so i think you need to get your cinéaste goggles recalibrated.
Shawshank Redemption is pure cheese and schmaltz, liked by the same people who think Pulp Fiction has some value.

The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo is a reasonable film, but not great, I like it for other reasons
i actually don't think pulp fiction is all that great. i think it's quite an insincere film. i also think all of tarantino's best qualities and stylisms as a director are taken wholesale from david lynch - someone by all agreement to be beyond the hollywood pale - and brought down to the friendly big-studio hollywood hipster level. for e.g. the overt, grotesque violence. for e.g. the long rambling digressive conversations between characters that adds bathos and surrealism and absurdity to a scene. for e.g. discussing burgers and fast-food in a serious manner just shortly before killing someone. that's textbook david lynch. tarantino just made it cool for the hollywood hip-crowd. to that extent i think he's second rate.

however the shawshank redemption doesn't have any pretentions of being 'hip' and 'cynical' like a tarantino movie - so i really have zero fucking idea how you are comparing them. why did you pull those two names together? was it just random? it makes about as much sense as comparing the twilight books to gordon ramsay's last cookbook. it makes no fucking sense whatsoever. the shawshank redemption is a straight-hollywood deal, with no pretentions of anythinig else. it's done by darabont - a man in the business of taking big stories and bringing them to the big screen. it succeeds wonderfully at that; it has all of the elements you'd expect from a movie of its genre, and none of them are over-done or insincere.

basically, don't change the dayjob. the world of film criticism is fine without you. although i'd like to say the comparison between the shawshank redemption and pulp fiction is inspired, it's more like the kneejerk whinings of an old man who is hopelessly out of touch and just wildly kicking-out and complaining about whatever takes his fancy. you seem utterly clueless when you can't even give a proper critique. basically, judging from your comments about the girl with the dragon tattoo, the reason you didn't really like the film was because it had no softcore or fetish elements to titillate you. it was a film with an all-male cast which failed to fulfill film's number-one objective for you, which is to make you feel a little less alone and a little less sexless for 120 minutes.

Last edited by Uzique (2012-04-11 08:50:07)

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film with all-male cast putting in some of the best performances of their careers = 'schmaltzy'

film with second-rate female actress jumping around in revealing clothing and making s&m comments about men and men-hate = 'omfg awsm'
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Mutantbear
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youre getting trolled bro

noone would rate shawshank a 5/10
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Uzique
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dilbert thinks skrillex is the only acceptable sort of dance music. he thinks all art is so subjective that there can't possibly be a difference between an obviously-objectively shitty film and a well-made film ("pretention", "snobbism"). his favourite form of cultural event and tourism is going to comic-cons for bygone z-list aussie heroines that are now nearly wheelchair-bound. you are talking to a man with the cultural training and artistic tastes of an amoeba.

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Mutantbear wrote:

youre getting trolled bro

noone would rate shawshank a 5/10
id give it 7, maybe an 8

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eleven bravo wrote:

Mutantbear wrote:

youre getting trolled bro

noone would rate shawshank a 5/10
id give it 7, maybe an 8
when i was looking at lists for films to watch shawshank was at the top of imdb ratings, close to the godfather
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jord wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

Mutantbear wrote:

youre getting trolled bro

noone would rate shawshank a 5/10
id give it 7, maybe an 8
when i was looking at lists for films to watch shawshank was at the top of imdb ratings, close to the godfather
please continue
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