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2008-06-25 02:31:03
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6633|N. Ireland
tbh, Smart ForTwo electrical is the best

- can do 70mph (motorway national speed limit)
- 0-30 at 6.5s but the acceleration is really fast (I know, I'm in one every day)
- no congestion charge cost
- zero emissions for all the scared people

The only problem I see is that it can only do 70. Motorway traffic here tends to head up to about 80, and on times on a clear road we're doing 95 in the normal Smart ForTwo - but nonetheless, such a cool car.
2008-06-25 03:11:38
Gawwad
My way or Haddaway!
+212|6825|Espoo, Finland
Just a bit over 3l/100km on that diesel
Pretty amazing!
2008-06-25 04:04:47
Burwhale
Save the BlobFish!
+136|6362|Brisneyland

Varegg wrote:

All the cars on the list in OP are really small cars, try fitting a family of 4 or 5 in one of those and drive for a distance ... the Prius can do just that
If you are worried about the size of your car get one of these. I have tried one out and it is a good size.
https://www.peugeot.com.au/PEUGEOT/AU/RESOURCES/IMAGES/DiscoverPeugeot/PeugeotinNews/308_wr_250_2.jpg

It currently holds 2 world records for fuel economy. ( although they are yet to be confirmed by Guiness).
More facts--
- Final fuel consumption figure of only 3.13 litres per 100km or 90.75 mpg!! Breaks the previous record belonging to a Peugeot 307 of 3.49 litres per 100km
Only 90.3* grams of CO2 produced per km (includes fuel supply chain) which compares to a national vehicle average of 285* grams per km (*according to figures from the Department of Climate Change and the Australian Bureau of Statistics).

- Fast Facts - Only 7.59 (60 litre) tanks used, 453.94 litres of diesel consumed, total cost only $703.93, best tank achieved 1988km from 58.98 litres, giving a theoretical range of 2020km if all 60 litres were used
2008-06-25 04:20:16
Surgeons
U shud proabbly f off u fat prik
+3,097|6630|Gogledd Cymru

FatherTed wrote:

Guys in Minis here are generally two sorts of people.

Estate Agents
Homosexuals.
Fuck you Ted. (I'm learning to drive in a mini )

It's actually a decent car, the start stop engine thingy is kewl too, just take it out of gear with the handbrake on, then put it back in to start again.
2008-06-25 07:16:39
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|6821|Disaster Free Zone

Varegg wrote:

All the cars on the list in OP are really small cars, try fitting a family of 4 or 5 in one of those and drive for a distance ... the Prius can do just that


Skip the first 4 minutes.

You don't need a small car... or a fucking Prius. Yes they may be slightly better, but if you need a big car, it doesn't mean you have to use shit loads of fuel.
2008-06-25 07:31:04
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6363|Escea

lol TopGear showed that a BMW M3 used less fuel in ten laps than a Prius
2008-06-25 07:36:55
Commie Killer
Member
+192|6527
What about family cars? If your gonna pile 4 or 5 people in a car for a trip to the beach, you cant use a Prius. Chrysler and Doge are each putting out hybrid SUV's, Dodge Durango boosts 25% more fuel efficiency. So in other words, it went from 16mpg highway to 20mpg highway, for an extra 15 grand.

Family's cant be buying 3 different cars for commuting and travel.
2008-06-25 07:38:09
Switch
Knee Deep In Clunge
+489|6603|Tyne & Wear, England

M.O.A.B wrote:

lol TopGear showed that a BMW M3 used less fuel in ten laps than a Prius
In all fairness though, he wasnt exactly driving the M3 how it should be driven now was he
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
2008-06-25 07:41:18
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6363|Escea

KILLSWITCH wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

lol TopGear showed that a BMW M3 used less fuel in ten laps than a Prius
In all fairness though, he wasnt exactly driving the M3 how it should be driven now was he
hehe, but he had a point, its not so much what your car can do its the way you drive it at the end of the day that determines how much fuel it consumes.
2008-06-25 08:39:46
SealXo
Member
+309|6676

kylef wrote:

tbh, Smart ForTwo electrical is the best

- can do 70mph (motorway national speed limit)
- 0-30 at 6.5s but the acceleration is really fast (I know, I'm in one every day)
- no congestion charge cost
- zero emissions for all the scared people

The only problem I see is that it can only do 70. Motorway traffic here tends to head up to about 80, and on times on a clear road we're doing 95 in the normal Smart ForTwo - but nonetheless, such a cool car.
I dont think they sell electric smarts at the dealer down the street
2008-06-25 10:07:49
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6741|132 and Bush

The#1Spot wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

(As mentioned before)

http://i26.tinypic.com/28mmg6u.jpg

http://i29.tinypic.com/11hb34g.jpg

http://i29.tinypic.com/2zgcco3.jpg

http://i32.tinypic.com/2nr11s9.jpg

40 miles on a charge with no oil. The range is 300 miles when the on board generator kicks in.

The average commute to work is 16 miles. I'd drive it.
http://gm-volt.com/
1. Its built in the US
2. It would be years before you would see it on the streets
3. The price would off set the benefits

I would like to have a diesel powered Euro car since they specialize in making highly efficient vehicles unlike the US and they are already available.
1. And so?
2. Two if they don't devote more brains to it. Now we have proposed huge government incentives to help expedite the process.
3. Have you got a price?

The US had energy efficient electric cars over a decade ago. There wasn't a demand for them.. times are changing.
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2008-06-25 10:53:03
Agent_Dung_Bomb
Member
+302|6876|Salt Lake City

I would also say a reason many of those cars aren't offered in the US is because most of them were diesel.  The US has much tighter restrictions on emissions from diesel engines.
2008-06-25 11:06:34
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|6760|Mhz

The#1Spot wrote:

I would like to have a diesel powered Euro car since they specialize in making highly efficient vehicles unlike the US and they are already available.
As I own one of said car's I'm inclined to agree, although the price of Diesel is kinda killing off a chunk of the benefit of lower runnings costs, it does go for much longer than it's petrol equivelant.

Mine's rated for almost 65MPG (highway) and it's a 9 year old engine, newer ones manage a fuck load more, plus mines a 1.9, a 1.4/1.6 would go even further.
2008-06-25 11:18:12
CaptainSpaulding71
Member
+119|6497|CA, USA

M.O.A.B wrote:

KILLSWITCH wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

lol TopGear showed that a BMW M3 used less fuel in ten laps than a Prius
In all fairness though, he wasnt exactly driving the M3 how it should be driven now was he
hehe, but he had a point, its not so much what your car can do its the way you drive it at the end of the day that determines how much fuel it consumes.
true...my m3 averages about 15 mpg in city, but i have lead foot
2008-06-25 13:58:58
The#1Spot
Member
+105|6680|byah

Kmarion wrote:

The#1Spot wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

(As mentioned before)

http://i26.tinypic.com/28mmg6u.jpg

http://i29.tinypic.com/11hb34g.jpg

http://i29.tinypic.com/2zgcco3.jpg

http://i32.tinypic.com/2nr11s9.jpg

40 miles on a charge with no oil. The range is 300 miles when the on board generator kicks in.

The average commute to work is 16 miles. I'd drive it.
http://gm-volt.com/
1. Its built in the US
2. It would be years before you would see it on the streets
3. The price would off set the benefits

I would like to have a diesel powered Euro car since they specialize in making highly efficient vehicles unlike the US and they are already available.
1. And so?
2. Two if they don't devote more brains to it. Now we have proposed huge government incentives to help expedite the process.
3. Have you got a price?

The US had energy efficient electric cars over a decade ago. There wasn't a demand for them.. times are changing.
Well The US is doing something wrong if Europe is nearly 80mpg on deisel fuel and the US struggles with 30mpg on a so called energy efficient hybrid

Last edited by The#1Spot (2008-06-25 13:59:24)

2008-06-25 15:14:09
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6741|132 and Bush

The#1Spot wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

The#1Spot wrote:

1. Its built in the US
2. It would be years before you would see it on the streets
3. The price would off set the benefits

I would like to have a diesel powered Euro car since they specialize in making highly efficient vehicles unlike the US and they are already available.
1. And so?
2. Two if they don't devote more brains to it. Now we have proposed huge government incentives to help expedite the process.
3. Have you got a price?

The US had energy efficient electric cars over a decade ago. There wasn't a demand for them.. times are changing.
Well The US is doing something wrong if Europe is nearly 80mpg on deisel fuel and the US struggles with 30mpg on a so called energy efficient hybrid
As I stated before there hasn't been a market for them. It's not a "doing something wrong" problem, it was a demand problem. Europeans have always paid much more in fuel.. that is why you had a greater incentive for consumers to purchase energy efficient cars. This in turn gave auto manufactures a reason to market and develop said vehicles.

30 mpg is energy efficient for an SUV. Compare apples to apples. I'm talking about a car that can go 40 miles (more than the average commute to work) with no oil.
http://www.hybridcars.com/concept-hybri … ncept.html
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2008-06-25 15:17:26
The#1Spot
Member
+105|6680|byah

Kmarion wrote:

The#1Spot wrote:

Kmarion wrote:


1. And so?
2. Two if they don't devote more brains to it. Now we have proposed huge government incentives to help expedite the process.
3. Have you got a price?

The US had energy efficient electric cars over a decade ago. There wasn't a demand for them.. times are changing.
Well The US is doing something wrong if Europe is nearly 80mpg on deisel fuel and the US struggles with 30mpg on a so called energy efficient hybrid
As I stated before there hasn't been a market for them. It's not a "doing something wrong" problem, it was a demand problem. Europeans have always paid much more in fuel.. that is why you had a greater incentive for consumers to purchase energy efficient cars. This in turn gave auto manufactures a reason to market and develop said vehicles.

30 mpg is energy efficient for an SUV. Compare apples to apples. I'm talking about a car that can go 40 miles (more than the average commute to work) with no oil.
I am talking about average mpg and no suv makes 30mpg average. They may say their car does 30mpg hwy which was tested on flat land at 55mph.
2008-06-25 15:23:11
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6741|132 and Bush

The#1Spot wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

The#1Spot wrote:

Well The US is doing something wrong if Europe is nearly 80mpg on deisel fuel and the US struggles with 30mpg on a so called energy efficient hybrid
As I stated before there hasn't been a market for them. It's not a "doing something wrong" problem, it was a demand problem. Europeans have always paid much more in fuel.. that is why you had a greater incentive for consumers to purchase energy efficient cars. This in turn gave auto manufactures a reason to market and develop said vehicles.

30 mpg is energy efficient for an SUV. Compare apples to apples. I'm talking about a car that can go 40 miles (more than the average commute to work) with no oil.
I am talking about average mpg and no suv makes 30mpg average. They may say their car does 30mpg hwy which was tested on flat land at 55mph.
Not true. The Ford Escape (the worlds most efficient suv) is 34 city/30 hwy. It's actually more efficient in the city. Check yourself.
http://www.hybridcars.com/suvs-minivans … rview.html

Those are official industry standard EPA numbers. They must follow the ratings guidelines when advertising.. it's the law.
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/FEG/how_tested.shtml
Fuel economy is measured under controlled conditions in a laboratory using a standardized test procedure specified by federal law.
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