Barrakuda777
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Mint Sauce wrote:

pyscofrawg wrote:

hiberNative wrote:

zatar isn't a map, it's 3 textures in different elevations with some water. second worst map to infantry on next to highway tampa.
Huge maps with a great view distance and not much place to hide? Sounds like a win to me.
Do you seriously want to be running around Zatar.

Tell you what. Pick any map but Zatar. Our choice is Sharqi.
Ok, we will choose another map, but you choose any map other that sharqi?

How is restricting our choice fair?

See this is what medics did last time, tweaked all the rules to suit them.
hiberNative
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+21|5984|sweden

Barrakuda777 wrote:

How is restricting our choice fair?

See this is what medics did last time, tweaked all the rules to suit them.
instead of taking 16 player size karkand, or 64 size tampa/zatar, lets take something that's good for both... like sharqi or mashtuur?

PrivateVendetta wrote:

What do textures have to do with it being a good map for infantry?
Karkand has 1 colour, seems to be quite popular.
there's almost no cover. have you ever done any serious infantry play on zatar map? let alone io?
it's meant for vehicles, like all carrier maps + tampa.

Last edited by hiberNative (2008-06-21 14:36:42)

Nihil
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+15|5996|Malaga, Spain
Infantry only Zatar (on 16 player size) is actually remarkably entertaining. There is a Russian unranked server out there that runs it. Snipers do indeed dominate, but there are some good close quarter skirmishes around the central flag.

Speaking as an impartial observer, it seems grossly unfair that one team is allowed choose any map they like and the other is not...
PrivateVendetta
I DEMAND XMAS THEME
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hiberNative wrote:

PrivateVendetta wrote:

What do textures have to do with it being a good map for infantry?
Karkand has 1 colour, seems to be quite popular.
there's almost no cover. have you ever done any serious infantry play on zatar map? let alone io?
it's meant for vehicles, like all carrier maps + tampa.
Thats obviously besides the point completely.
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hiberNative
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+21|5984|sweden

PrivateVendetta wrote:

hiberNative wrote:

PrivateVendetta wrote:

What do textures have to do with it being a good map for infantry?
Karkand has 1 colour, seems to be quite popular.
there's almost no cover. have you ever done any serious infantry play on zatar map? let alone io?
it's meant for vehicles, like all carrier maps + tampa.
Thats obviously besides the point completely.
hey.
if you want to lay your asses on a hill and shoot at us running over a field, then we're entitled to pick karkand 16 player size and steamroll you with paddles, but then the whole point of this would be lost.

so ffs

lets pick a map that both sides have advantages and weaknesses on?
Miniman7474
Banned.
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Its pretty obvious that medics are the ones setting this up...

No offensive clays? Let them use the components of their kits in whatever way THEY SEE FIT, not however it convieniently falls into your agenda. I mean god knows theres gonna be some fag medic with a G36E running around, so snipers should be allowed to use claymores however the hell they want to also.

No picking up medic kits full health? Last I checked in a regular day of BF2, snipers are free to grab other kits for ammo/health and this is about proving snipers are worthless in game, so why not let them play how they normally would?

You can't pick both maps, and you sure as hell can't say that snipers can pick a map too, but not Zatar. The point is that you each can pick a map, you can't veto the other sides first choice, it doesn't work that way.
aimless
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+166|6315|Texas
I think it would be fair to have no unlocks, snipers allowed to pick up medic kits, but not kill with them (with the M16/AK at least, I guess pistol would be fine).
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6690|so randum
Keep it simple.

Unlocks allowed

You can pick up kits to use the advantages of the kit, but not the primary offensive weapon

each side picks a map - this cannot be argued against.

In event of a tie, you vote for a map, and play.
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specops10-4
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+108|6933|In the hills
I would play this game if only I had my computer...
Miniman7474
Banned.
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If a sniper kills a medic with a medic main gun, he must suicide instantly and vice versa.

Eh?
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
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FatherTed wrote:

Keep it simple.

Unlocks allowed

You can pick up kits to use the advantages of the kit, but not the primary offensive weapon

each side picks a map - this cannot be argued against.

In event of a tie, you vote for a map, and play.
You can't pick up any of the other teams kit.. for any reason.

No commander.

Medics are not allowed to do the rearming glitch.

Everything else goes, claymores, nade spam, whatever.
Mint Sauce
Frighteningly average
+780|6476|eng

Barrakuda777 wrote:

Mint Sauce wrote:

pyscofrawg wrote:


Huge maps with a great view distance and not much place to hide? Sounds like a win to me.
Do you seriously want to be running around Zatar.

Tell you what. Pick any map but Zatar. Our choice is Sharqi.
Ok, we will choose another map, but you choose any map other that sharqi?

How is restricting our choice fair?

See this is what medics did last time, tweaked all the rules to suit them.
What? I'm picking Sharqi as our map choice..

Right, there seems to be some confusion over the rules, so I will set out the final rules, and they will not be changed.

* Clays can be used, but FF will be on.
* Snipers may not pick up Medic kits at any time, and vice versa.
* Unlocks may be used.
* Each team picks a map.
* Each round will last for 20 minutes, 2 rounds at each map. So match length is 4 x 20 mins.
* No glitching into buildings, or indeed the re-arming glitch.

I'm sorry to say this aswell, but if a Sniper picks up a Medic kit so re-health or revive someone, and indeed if a Medic picks a Sniper kit up to lob some nades or lay some skillbombs, then that particular player shall be excluded for the rest of the round.
#rekt
hiberNative
7.62x54R
+21|5984|sweden
i'm not setting this up.
i'd enjoy being a sniper just as much as being a medic (if not more), but i think we should mix it up. we already know that snipers are better at long range and medics at close. pick a mixed environment to suit both and see who has the better tactics. i don't see anything wrong with that.

and i don't see why snipers would be allowed to pick up medikits. are medics allowed to plant clays? i don't like the idea. i know you're used to picking up whatever you want, but if snipers heal themselves it's snipers/medics vs medics. just cause you don't use the assault rifle doesn't mean you're not a medic. don't really understand your reasoning...

edit: leet rules, mint.

Last edited by hiberNative (2008-06-22 00:42:54)

RDMC
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hiberNative wrote:

Barrakuda777 wrote:

How is restricting our choice fair?

See this is what medics did last time, tweaked all the rules to suit them.
instead of taking 16 player size karkand, or 64 size tampa/zatar, lets take something that's good for both... like sharqi or mashtuur?

PrivateVendetta wrote:

What do textures have to do with it being a good map for infantry?
Karkand has 1 colour, seems to be quite popular.
there's almost no cover. have you ever done any serious infantry play on zatar map? let alone io?
it's meant for vehicles, like all carrier maps + tampa.
How about 16 player Dalian?

Btw..that clays with FF on will go so terrible bad! Can tell you that now. Half the tickets that the snipers will loose will be because of Tk's.

Last edited by RDMC (2008-06-22 10:07:13)

PrivateVendetta
I DEMAND XMAS THEME
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hiberNative wrote:

...we already know that snipers are better at long range and medics at close.
I give up.

BTW, Mint, shouldn't Kuda and you both decide on rules before they are perm?

Last edited by PrivateVendetta (2008-06-22 11:32:36)

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.Sup
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Who's in the medic team?
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hiberNative
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you guys are taking this too seriously. lets get on with it and decide on a date for it. it's not your pride on the line, lets just have fun https://media.gtanet.com/gtaforums/images/html/emoticons/catloaf_by_anuj.gif
Mint Sauce
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Sup i don't really have a team yet, but you are one person i want to play. And i'm setting this up so i decide the rules, these rules are fair to both teams as they are what kooda wanted anyway..
#rekt
i g
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tldr

whats the status?
Rofl_My_Waffle
Member
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Snipers + claymores vs Accurate assault rifles + mass revive. Im betting on the ones that can heal and revive each other.
Miniman7474
Banned.
+30|6389|Daqing Oilfields?
If Frawg plays his M95 will rape you all.

Fucker shot down my Z10 today on Wake! A clan member and I were raping Beach and as we went for repairs BOOM we blew up and Frawg had the kill with his M95.

I couldn't believe it!
pyscofrawg
AKA Selkies ftw
+55|6595|Earth

Miniman7474 wrote:

If Frawg plays his M95 will rape you all.

Fucker shot down my Z10 today on Wake! A clan member and I were raping Beach and as we went for repairs BOOM we blew up and Frawg had the kill with his M95.

I couldn't believe it!
I couldn't believe it either. It was more of an accident than anything.
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Miniman7474
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pyscofrawg wrote:

Miniman7474 wrote:

If Frawg plays his M95 will rape you all.

Fucker shot down my Z10 today on Wake! A clan member and I were raping Beach and as we went for repairs BOOM we blew up and Frawg had the kill with his M95.

I couldn't believe it!
I couldn't believe it either. It was more of an accident than anything.
Don't be modest.
hiberNative
7.62x54R
+21|5984|sweden

Miniman7474 wrote:

If Frawg plays his M95 will rape you all.

Fucker shot down my Z10 today on Wake! A clan member and I were raping Beach and as we went for repairs BOOM we blew up and Frawg had the kill with his M95.

I couldn't believe it!
don't see why he'd use the inaccurate m95 when it's only effective against body armor. all bolt action rifles do the same damage against medics...
Barrakuda777
Member
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Mint Sauce wrote:

Sup i don't really have a team yet, but you are one person i want to play. And i'm setting this up so i decide the rules, these rules are fair to both teams as they are what kooda wanted anyway..
I have a couple of suggested changes to them mate, lets talk on xfire.

I agree this is too srs bisns at the moment....

BTW.... I assume we are lookin for 16 v 16 players?

Kooda

P.S. you sorting a server mint?

Last edited by Barrakuda777 (2008-06-23 01:21:07)

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