Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|6773|Cambridge (UK)

ThaReaper wrote:

Everywhere I ago people are bashing America.
Paranoid delusions at all?

ThaReaper wrote:

Maybe people should just stick to the topic instead of just saying stuff about America. I never say anything about any other countries (excluding Iraq) and I want the same. Why can't people just stick to topics and not go into the "It's Americas' fault" and whatnot.
The problem with that is that, with a lot of the topics that are discussed here, Americas role in the issue is at the heart of the issue.

This is only because America is the worlds only superpower.

It was the same with the UK when we owned half the planet - everything that ever went wrong was all our fault - and some things that happen now-a-days, in places we used to own, still get blamed on us.

When you've got the biggest boots, you end up stepping on the most toes.
Fred[OZ75]
Jihad Jeep Driver
+19|6766|Perth, Western Australia
"groundless"  Wicked... don't even have to back my anti-american claims up with proof... finally I can "debate" like a creationist...

The US is the only first world country without universal health care and has about 50 million people without any cover, in fact the average Cuban has better ACCESS to health care than the average american. People go broke in the US to cover their medical expenses a fact that would course outrage in all other first world countries.

US education standards are behind most other first world nation by massive margins (then again you guys want to teach creationism as science, please can we all return to the dark ages).

US murder rate are only matched by developing world countries and even then the more backwards ones, US death by gun rates are only matched by war zones and more people die in LA by bullets randomly returning to earth than are murdered outright in many first world countries.

CEOs are paid stupidly more than the average worker than any other country, also the US has more full-time employees under the poverty line than any other first world country.

The US has the highest percent of the population in prison than any other first world country, and is one of only handful of countries with sentences minors to death (ie, like Saudi Arabia, Iran, you know F$%&ed up weird countries). I would say that the US is the only first world country that does sentence people to death but I have found out Singapore does too, but they are a weird family run democracy who ban chewing gum.

The US play almost no international team sport but rather invent their own games which are only played in the Olympics internationally. Americans are just shit at sport and play stupid sports.

Lets see, I've covered medicine, education, murder rates, guns, pay, prisons, sports...

Oh... and US beer is watered down cats piss, Bud is the worst beer on the planet, third rate Asian countries make better beer than you guys.

I would thank god for no more negative karma... but I'm an atheist.

Fred

(edit... typo-dyslexia)

Last edited by Fred[OZ75] (2008-06-15 01:00:12)

NeXuS
Shock it till ya know it
+375|6348|Atlanta, Georgia

Fred[OZ75] wrote:

Wicked... don't even have to back my anti-american claims up with proof....

The US is the only first world country without universal health care and has about 50 million people without any cover, in fact the average Cuban has better ACCESS to health care than the average american. People go broke in the US to cover their medical expenses a fact that would course outrage in all other first world countries.

US education standards are behind most other first world nation by massive margins (then again you guys want to teach creationism as science, please can we all return to the dark ages).

US murder rate are only matched by developing world countries and even then the more backwards ones, US death by gun rates are only matched by war zones and more people die in LA by bullets randomly returning to earth than are murdered outright in many first world countries.

CEOs are paid stupidly more than the average worker than any other country, also the US has more fully time employees under the poverty line than any other first world country.

The US has the highest percent of the population in prison than any other first world country, and is one of only handful of countries with sentences minors to death (ie, like Saudi Arabia, Iran, you know F$%&ed up weird countries). I would say that the US is the only first world country that does sentence people to death but I have found out Singapore does too, but they are a weird family run democracy who ban chewing gum.

The US play almost no international team sport but rather invent their own games which are only played in the Olympics internationally. Americans are just shit at sport and play stupid sports.

Lets see, I've covered medicine, education, murder rates, guns, pay, prisons, sports...

Oh... and US beer is watered down cats piss, Bud is the worst beer on the planet, third rate Asian countries make better beer than you guys.

I would thank god for no more negative karma... but I'm an atheist.

Fred
FAGGOT TBH!!!

I would thank god for no more negative karma... but I'm an atheist.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6608|132 and Bush

Let's take this discussion to Beijing .. Winner take all?


lol@serious people actin all serious like in this thread
Xbone Stormsurgezz
PureFodder
Member
+225|6292

Kmarion wrote:

SpIk3y wrote:

America is so awesome that others are intimidated by and jealous of its immense greatness.  It does what it wants simply because it can.  I completely understand the hatred of the US, but do not share it.
Alpha dog tbh. Hard to image why a country that is so evil and wretched when it comes to human rights and living conditions completely dominates the rest of the world with the amount of people that migrate here every year. The truth is in the puddin baby.

*reaches for a sparklers and Lee Greenwood cassette tape*
The other possibility is that the US is the closest rich country to a bunch of highly impoverished countries. All you can really say about immigration to the US is that the US is better than Mexico, hardly a great achievement.

If the rate of new citizens moving to a country is a measure of geatness, then all hail Canada, the greatest nation on Earth.

The US is merely 8th.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/imm_n … per-capita
rammunition
Fully Loaded
+143|5868
LividBovine
The Year of the Cow!
+175|6387|MN
You are quoting your own post as a source?

And to top it off, the stats you list are mostly estimations and exaggerations of the involvement of the US.  Good post.


PureFodder wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

SpIk3y wrote:

America is so awesome that others are intimidated by and jealous of its immense greatness.  It does what it wants simply because it can.  I completely understand the hatred of the US, but do not share it.
Alpha dog tbh. Hard to image why a country that is so evil and wretched when it comes to human rights and living conditions completely dominates the rest of the world with the amount of people that migrate here every year. The truth is in the puddin baby.

*reaches for a sparklers and Lee Greenwood cassette tape*
The other possibility is that the US is the closest rich country to a bunch of highly impoverished countries. All you can really say about immigration to the US is that the US is better than Mexico, hardly a great achievement.

If the rate of new citizens moving to a country is a measure of geatness, then all hail Canada, the greatest nation on Earth.

The US is merely 8th.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/imm_n … per-capita
Try again!  Per capita is not as relevant as total for this particular stat, IMHO.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/imm_n … tizenships

I like this graph better, shows the true dominance:  http://www.nationmaster.com/red/pie/imm … tizenships

Last edited by LividBovine (2008-06-15 02:40:22)

"The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation" - Barack Obama (a freshman senator from Illinios)
BVC
Member
+325|6702
I'm loving this arugment, keep it up guys!
PureFodder
Member
+225|6292

LividBovine wrote:

You are quoting your own post as a source?

And to top it off, the stats you list are mostly estimations and exaggerations of the involvement of the US.  Good post.


PureFodder wrote:

Kmarion wrote:


Alpha dog tbh. Hard to image why a country that is so evil and wretched when it comes to human rights and living conditions completely dominates the rest of the world with the amount of people that migrate here every year. The truth is in the puddin baby.

*reaches for a sparklers and Lee Greenwood cassette tape*
The other possibility is that the US is the closest rich country to a bunch of highly impoverished countries. All you can really say about immigration to the US is that the US is better than Mexico, hardly a great achievement.

If the rate of new citizens moving to a country is a measure of geatness, then all hail Canada, the greatest nation on Earth.

The US is merely 8th.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/imm_n … per-capita
Try again!  Per capita is not as relevant as total for this particular stat, IMHO.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/imm_n … tizenships

I like this graph better, shows the true dominance:  http://www.nationmaster.com/red/pie/imm … tizenships
All that shows is how big countries are and says little else. Again, the vast majority of immigrants to the US are due in large part to the condition of nearby countries and the fact that the US is a vast, sparsely populated country, saying nothing much about US society at all.
AussieReaper
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
+5,761|6160|what

I don't agree with your guns laws.

There, I said it.

Last edited by TheAussieReaper (2008-06-15 04:55:43)

https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6297|Éire

Lotta_Drool wrote:

I never realised how much the Irish, Scottish, and English were all just the same thing until I saw that map.  I mean I know you all have bad teeth and the same funny accent but it never clicked with me because you guys spend all your energy trying make people think there is something different about you.  Shit all it takes is one look at the map. 

Wow, my opinion of the Brittish and Scottish just went down a few notches and my opinion of the Irish has over doubled!
At least we, the Irish people, have our own island (although some of our deluded brethren up North feel the need to pledge allegiance to a silly woman with a crown), our own language and our own culture. I do kind of feel a little sorry Scotland and Wales in that they blend geographically into England.

Americans can't talk...there's a joke over that if you take an American and shake all of the ignorance, conceit and bad attitude out of him you are left with a Canadian!

Last edited by Braddock (2008-06-15 06:10:43)

konfusion
mostly afk
+480|6557|CH/BR - in UK

I have to agree that the American education system is shit. ><
I've been to American schools for 6 out of my 13 years of education (12 if you don't count the kindergarten stuff, I suppose).
I knew more maths, geometry (dno if you want to include that), geography and history when I came to ACS (American school here in the UK) 3 years ago then I learned in the first year. I still know more history and geography. Had I not taken the IB, I would have aced the entire course without learning anything at all.
Oh, and Budweiser sucks. xD

-kon
SpIk3y
Minister of Silly Walks
+67|6146|New Jersey

Fred[OZ75] wrote:

The US is the only first world country without universal health care and has about 50 million people without any cover, in fact the average Cuban has better ACCESS to health care than the average american. People go broke in the US to cover their medical expenses a fact that would course outrage in all other first world countries.
Thank God we don't have universal health care.  The last thing I want is a bunch of lazy pieces of shit leeching off the government because they didn't work as hard as me or aren't as successful as me.  Not only that, but I refuse to pay for someone else's medical bills.  I don't smoke cigarettes so why should I have to pay for the lung problems of someone who does?  It's a dog-eat-dog world... if you can't bring home the bread to look after yourself, you suffer.  It weeds out the weak ones.

Oh, and
https://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/SpIk3y24/Canada.jpg

Last edited by SpIk3y (2008-06-15 09:42:32)

THE_EYE
Banned
+76|5812|Amsterdam, NY

TheAussieReaper wrote:

I don't agree with your guns laws.

There, I said it.
terrorist
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6562

SpIk3y wrote:

Thank God we don't have universal health care.  The last thing I want is a bunch of lazy pieces of shit leeching off the government because they didn't work as hard as me or aren't as successful as me.  Not only that, but I refuse to pay for someone else's medical bills.  I don't smoke cigarettes so why should I have to pay for the lung problems of someone who does?  It's a dog-eat-dog world... if you can't bring home the bread to look after yourself, you suffer.  It weeds out the weak ones.

Oh, and
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/ … Canada.jpg
Well Canada and Europe seems to be doing just fine with their socialist systems. Enjoy your Darwinist Republic.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6536|Global Command

Fred[OZ75] wrote:

"groundless"  Wicked... don't even have to back my anti-american claims up with proof... finally I can "debate" like a creationist...

The US is the only first world country without universal health care and has about 50 million people without any cover, in fact the average Cuban has better ACCESS to health care than the average american. People go broke in the US to cover their medical expenses a fact that would course outrage in all other first world countries.

US education standards are behind most other first world nation by massive margins (then again you guys want to teach creationism as science, please can we all return to the dark ages).

US murder rate are only matched by developing world countries and even then the more backwards ones, US death by gun rates are only matched by war zones and more people die in LA by bullets randomly returning to earth than are murdered outright in many first world countries.

CEOs are paid stupidly more than the average worker than any other country, also the US has more full-time employees under the poverty line than any other first world country.

The US has the highest percent of the population in prison than any other first world country, and is one of only handful of countries with sentences minors to death (ie, like Saudi Arabia, Iran, you know F$%&ed up weird countries). I would say that the US is the only first world country that does sentence people to death but I have found out Singapore does too, but they are a weird family run democracy who ban chewing gum.

The US play almost no international team sport but rather invent their own games which are only played in the Olympics internationally. Americans are just shit at sport and play stupid sports.

Lets see, I've covered medicine, education, murder rates, guns, pay, prisons, sports...

Oh... and US beer is watered down cats piss, Bud is the worst beer on the planet, third rate Asian countries make better beer than you guys.

I would thank god for no more negative karma... but I'm an atheist.

Fred

(edit... typo-dyslexia)
I take offense at your comment about American beer. You have never tried Sierra Nevada pale ale.

Try it, then say that with a straight face.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6628|London, England
I have to agree that America seems to be going backward in terms of Education and Religion. You guys really need to get a grip of the extreme Christianity that's sweeping across your country and making giant inroads into your society. America may have been founded on Christianity, but not this ignorant version. Otherwise you guys would be amongst the poorest and dumbest countries in the world, but you're not.
THE_EYE
Banned
+76|5812|Amsterdam, NY

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

I have to agree that America seems to be going backward in terms of Education and Religion. You guys really need to get a grip of the extreme Christianity that's sweeping across your country and making giant inroads into your society. America may have been founded on Christianity, but not this ignorant version. Otherwise you guys would be amongst the poorest and dumbest countries in the world, but you're not.
The failure of the American education system has nothing to do with Fundamentalist Christianity berkstizzle.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6658|USA

d4rkst4r wrote:

I ain't afraid to say it, your country sucks, and everything it's stands for currently makes me want to vomit on your Bill of Rights.
Well thanks to our liberal congress, you probably could get away with it.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,973|6639|949

lowing wrote:

d4rkst4r wrote:

I ain't afraid to say it, your country sucks, and everything it's stands for currently makes me want to vomit on your Bill of Rights.
Well thanks to our liberal congress, you probably could get away with it.
Calling our Congress liberal shows that you are Anti-American and have no concept of a balanced political spectrum.  It also is evidence of your appeasement to like-minded dullards.

Last edited by KEN-JENNINGS (2008-06-15 11:17:15)

DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+794|6691|United States of America
This is a great example of the failings of the Debate and Serious Talk forum.
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6190|Ireland

DesertFox- wrote:

This is a great example of the failings of the Debate and Serious Talk forum.
At least people in this forum can actually stay on topic and be heard.  The people who are offended by the bad mouthing of America can come her specificly to discuss the rants about it instead of facing it in topics where it really has no place.

I think the system is working well and people are quite civil because they know what to expect in this thread.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6562
There isn't enough groundlessness in this thread.
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|6688|Disaster Free Zone

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

Screw the Euros. Its not our fault we won WWII for them.
The bitch was already fucked and impregnated before you guys came along and raped her in the arse.
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6190|Ireland

CameronPoe wrote:

There isn't enough groundlessness in this thread.
That is because your posts are shorter than usual.

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