But, of course, Americans will still complain ...
But, of course, Americans will still complain ...
Yes, but look how much of their price is in TAXES. As for all of Europe. More than half the money you spend in gas is tax.OrangeHound wrote:
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But, of course, Americans will still complain ...
To be fair, America pays a decent amount in gas taxes as well. The chart above only shows federal taxes for the U.S. Some states (like my own) practically double the taxation on gas through their own tax they slap on it.
But yes, Europe pays way too much tax on gas, just like Turkey and Russia.
Also, it's worth noting that countries like Venezuela subsidize gas through taxes, which is why it's so cheap for them. Still, that means the chart isn't showing the total picture.
But yes, Europe pays way too much tax on gas, just like Turkey and Russia.
Also, it's worth noting that countries like Venezuela subsidize gas through taxes, which is why it's so cheap for them. Still, that means the chart isn't showing the total picture.
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look at what russia pays for gas if you take out the taxes!!!!!!!! That could be the US if we build oil refineries and opened up drilling like they have.
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Mines bigger .
Europe has a tighter infrastructure by comparison to the US (less need to drive). That kinda helps them out... well kinda.
Mines bigger .
Europe has a tighter infrastructure by comparison to the US (less need to drive). That kinda helps them out... well kinda.
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Russia also has a lot more land than us.Lotta_Drool wrote:
look at what russia pays for gas if you take out the taxes!!!!!!!! That could be the US if we build oil refineries and opened up drilling like they have.
Looks like Germany wins the Gas Price War.
Looks like Venezuela wins the Gas Price War.
Looks like Venezuela wins the Gas Price War.
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And we all know that land mass is directly related to gasoline prices.Turquoise wrote:
Russia also has a lot more land than us.Lotta_Drool wrote:
look at what russia pays for gas if you take out the taxes!!!!!!!! That could be the US if we build oil refineries and opened up drilling like they have.
True, but I'd bet that a lot of people pay considerably more in taxes to subsidize gas in Venezuela than we pay at the pump in taxes.Kmarion wrote:
Looks like Germany wins the Gas Price War.
Looks like Venezuela wins the Gas Price War.
More land mass = more areas to explore for oil. For all its problems, Russia does have a ton of natural resources.Lotta_Drool wrote:
And we all know that land mass is directly related to gasoline prices.Turquoise wrote:
Russia also has a lot more land than us.Lotta_Drool wrote:
look at what russia pays for gas if you take out the taxes!!!!!!!! That could be the US if we build oil refineries and opened up drilling like they have.
I was in Venezuela years ago. Everything then was still insanely cheap by American standards. It's all relative to income... Venezuelans make less. The map in the OP was based on the dollar.Turquoise wrote:
True, but I'd bet that a lot of people pay considerably more in taxes to subsidize gas in Venezuela than we pay at the pump in taxes.Kmarion wrote:
Looks like Germany wins the Gas Price War.
Looks like Venezuela wins the Gas Price War.
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It's pretty bad in Norway also. From what I know gas prices have been like this for a while, correct me if I'm wrong (I probably am)OrangeHound wrote:
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But, of course, Americans will still complain ...
Hmmm... I guess that makes sense. It's still bothersome though. For obvious reasons, I'd rather live here than there, but even beyond that, there is a serious problem with the way that Venezuela is handling their gas market. Many countries, like Venezuela and Iran, subsidize gas for the sake of making it more affordable to the average person. This may sound like a good idea on the surface, but it also makes development more dependent on gas.Kmarion wrote:
I was in Venezuela years ago. Everything then was still insanely cheap by American standards. It's all relative to income... Venezuelans make less. The map in the OP was based on the dollar.Turquoise wrote:
True, but I'd bet that a lot of people pay considerably more in taxes to subsidize gas in Venezuela than we pay at the pump in taxes.Kmarion wrote:
Looks like Germany wins the Gas Price War.
Looks like Venezuela wins the Gas Price War.
For example, Iran is currently in the awkward position of being a major oil exporter, but still having to import most refined petroleum products. This happens because, while they have a major amount of crude oil, they have very few refineries (if any). This is part of why they are pursuing nuclear technology. Aside from having nuclear weapons, they would rather move towards a nuclear power infrastructure than build refineries. I'm not sure what Venezuela's refinery situation is, but if it's anything like Iran's situation, they're going to be screwed once peak oil production passes.
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[quote = article]CNG Prices Vary Widely
Nationwide, Kolodziej says, the price of a gallon equivalent of CNG at retail refueling stations is, on average, between 50 cents and 70 cents lower than the price of a gallon of gasoline. The savings are even greater with a home refueling unit.
In Utah, where CNG is cheapest, a gallon equivalent now costs only 63 cents at retail pumps—down from 73 cents recently—notes John Mitton of Saratoga Springs, Utah, an owner of three Civic GX sedans and operator of a Web community dedicated to NGVs. And because the pump price is so low, Utah is one of the few states where CNG from a home unit actually costs more than at retail stations.
The reason for the low price: Utah limits to 10 percent the profit that can be earned by Questar, the public utility that sells CNG at its own refueling stations.
In Oklahoma, Mitton says, CNG costs as little as 90 cents per gallon equivalent at the pump. [\quote]
Natural Gas is burns cooler for motors, cleaner, piped instead of hauled in trucks and ships, and doesn't need refined like Oil. This should be a no brainer in America where natural gas is abundant. Granted it is not an end all solution, but would keep us from poluting as much and sending out money out of country ( especially the billions we have sent to countries like Saudia Arabia so that they could create a society that promotes killing Americans so that we end up spending billions more to fight the terrorists created with the billions we sent to the country that funds and promotes the terrorist even still at the same time we are spending billions to fight the terrorists........... / Ron Paul Rant ).
Ultimately we should be using Nuclear, Wind, Hydro, Solar generated electricity to run battery or compressed air vehicles.
http://www.gizmag.com/compressed-air-ca … 2010/8896/
[quote = article]CNG Prices Vary Widely
Nationwide, Kolodziej says, the price of a gallon equivalent of CNG at retail refueling stations is, on average, between 50 cents and 70 cents lower than the price of a gallon of gasoline. The savings are even greater with a home refueling unit.
In Utah, where CNG is cheapest, a gallon equivalent now costs only 63 cents at retail pumps—down from 73 cents recently—notes John Mitton of Saratoga Springs, Utah, an owner of three Civic GX sedans and operator of a Web community dedicated to NGVs. And because the pump price is so low, Utah is one of the few states where CNG from a home unit actually costs more than at retail stations.
The reason for the low price: Utah limits to 10 percent the profit that can be earned by Questar, the public utility that sells CNG at its own refueling stations.
In Oklahoma, Mitton says, CNG costs as little as 90 cents per gallon equivalent at the pump. [\quote]
Natural Gas is burns cooler for motors, cleaner, piped instead of hauled in trucks and ships, and doesn't need refined like Oil. This should be a no brainer in America where natural gas is abundant. Granted it is not an end all solution, but would keep us from poluting as much and sending out money out of country ( especially the billions we have sent to countries like Saudia Arabia so that they could create a society that promotes killing Americans so that we end up spending billions more to fight the terrorists created with the billions we sent to the country that funds and promotes the terrorist even still at the same time we are spending billions to fight the terrorists........... / Ron Paul Rant ).
Ultimately we should be using Nuclear, Wind, Hydro, Solar generated electricity to run battery or compressed air vehicles.
http://www.gizmag.com/compressed-air-ca … 2010/8896/
btw, take a look at Wikipedia
Some number to note:
Some number to note:
Sierre Leone: 18.43 $/gal
Turkey: 10.17
Norway: 10.03
United Kingdom: 8.46
United States: 3.96
Iran: 0.42
Venezuela: 0.19