What tech did you buy today?

2009-04-24 14:11:40

#2351

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6600|The Twilight Zone

Freezer7Pro wrote:
.Sup wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:

Amplified crap is still crap, you know. If he's listening from the computer, I'm quite certain he can obtain whatever colouration X amp would produce through software.
So you're saying Essence is crap? And I'm pretty sure those cans require more than 35 ohms to get the most out of them (check specs to be sure)
I'm not saying the Essence STX is crap, I'm saying it's made for heavier phones. His new phones are 32Ω, and thus quite light to drive.

And I'm saying that if you won't get much better output than you get input. If you have a rollercoaster of a frequency curve in and 10% distortion, an amp won't magically fix that. If you've got (like with the Xonar) a completely flat curve with 0.006% THD, an amp will only add noise and colouration to it.

And what the hell do you mean by "I'm pretty sure those cans require more than 35 ohms to get the most out of them"? That doesn't even make any sense.

Didn't understand a word of what you just said. Stick with audio.
You said DX outputs 32ohms so I said those cans might require more. So you won't get the most out of your cans if they need more gain then the output on his card gives.
And no soundcard without an amp is made for "heavier cans", even my EMU which has a headamp can't power my HD600s properly.

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2009-04-24 14:14:07

#2352

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6344|Winland

.Sup wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
.Sup wrote:

So you're saying Essence is crap? And I'm pretty sure those cans require more than 35 ohms to get the most out of them (check specs to be sure)
I'm not saying the Essence STX is crap, I'm saying it's made for heavier phones. His new phones are 32Ω, and thus quite light to drive.

And I'm saying that if you won't get much better output than you get input. If you have a rollercoaster of a frequency curve in and 10% distortion, an amp won't magically fix that. If you've got (like with the Xonar) a completely flat curve with 0.006% THD, an amp will only add noise and colouration to it.

And what the hell do you mean by "I'm pretty sure those cans require more than 35 ohms to get the most out of them"? That doesn't even make any sense.
Didn't understand a word of what you just said. Stick with audio.
You said DX outputs 32ohms so I said those cans might require more. So you won't get the most out of your cans if they need more gain then the output on his card gives.
And no soundcard without an amp is made for "heavier cans", even my EMU which has a headamp can't power my HD600s properly.

You just lost the last credibility you had with me.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-04-24 14:18:16

#2353

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6600|The Twilight Zone

Freezer7Pro wrote:
.Sup wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:

I'm not saying the Essence STX is crap, I'm saying it's made for heavier phones. His new phones are 32Ω, and thus quite light to drive.

And I'm saying that if you won't get much better output than you get input. If you have a rollercoaster of a frequency curve in and 10% distortion, an amp won't magically fix that. If you've got (like with the Xonar) a completely flat curve with 0.006% THD, an amp will only add noise and colouration to it.

And what the hell do you mean by "I'm pretty sure those cans require more than 35 ohms to get the most out of them"? That doesn't even make any sense.
Didn't understand a word of what you just said. Stick with audio.
You said DX outputs 32ohms so I said those cans might require more. So you won't get the most out of your cans if they need more gain then the output on his card gives.
And no soundcard without an amp is made for "heavier cans", even my EMU which has a headamp can't power my HD600s properly.

You just lost the last credibility you had with me.

Well your reply just proves your knowledge about headphones and headamps in on zero. Thats all you have to say? My answer is valid, you can be sure of that.

2009-04-24 14:20:07

#2354

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6344|Winland

.Sup wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
.Sup wrote:

Didn't understand a word of what you just said. Stick with audio.
You said DX outputs 32ohms so I said those cans might require more. So you won't get the most out of your cans if they need more gain then the output on his card gives.
And no soundcard without an amp is made for "heavier cans", even my EMU which has a headamp can't power my HD600s properly.

You just lost the last credibility you had with me.
Well your reply just proves your knowledge about headphones and headamps in on zero. Thats all you have to say? My answer is valid, you can be sure of that.

You don't even know the difference between Ohm and Watt. Two basics when dealing with ANY audio gear.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-04-24 14:26:10

#2355

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6600|The Twilight Zone

Freezer7Pro wrote:
.Sup wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:

You just lost the last credibility you had with me.
Well your reply just proves your knowledge about headphones and headamps in on zero. Thats all you have to say? My answer is valid, you can be sure of that.
You don't even know the difference between Ohm and Watt. Two basics when dealing with ANY audio gear.

You don't seem to know the point in gain. I'm not going to try to explain it to you as it will be pointless. High ohm cans need to be feed with power. You should have known that by now

2009-04-24 14:31:04

#2356

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6344|Winland

No shit, Einstein. In this thread, you've proven that you don't know what the word amplify means, that you believe in magic, and that you don't even know the simplest of basics in audio tech.

I'm gonna leave it here and let you go live in your little world of magic headphone amps that output resistance

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-04-24 14:34:52

#2357

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6561|Finland

come on guys. Pleeeeeaaaseeeee keep the constant audiotalk in the other thread. Every day when I open this thread there is arguing going on about something audio related.

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2009-04-24 14:37:09

#2358

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6600|The Twilight Zone

Sure an amp can amplify the sound but do we buy headamps to amplify the sound? To certain degree yes as full sized cans need more power but you can amplify it in your media playeras well so why get a standalone amp? Cans need power only amps can provide and an amp will reveal the true quality of any headphone if its at least decent. You have obviously never heard a standalone amplifier but you talk like you have a dozen of them at home. Folks who I know and built amps by themselves would have a nice laugh if they read what you dispute

2009-04-24 14:56:10

#2359

Brasso: member; +1,549|6777

Freezer7Pro wrote:
If you start an audio thread in Tech, there will be a shitstorm.
Please start an audio thread in Tech!

Only because it keeps reappearing in the "What tech did you buy today?" thread. Just make an audio thread and argue there ffs.

"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"

2009-04-24 17:08:18

#2360

Defiance: Member; +438|6818

haffeysucks wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
If you start an audio thread in Tech, there will be a shitstorm.
Please start an audio thread in Tech!
Only because it keeps reappearing in the "What tech did you buy today?" thread. Just make an audio thread and argue there ffs.

They did, it lasted for all of a week before they forgot to bookmark the thread.

2009-04-24 19:28:22

#2361

Stimey: +786|6267|Ontario | Canada

Freezer you made a fucking thread yourself for derails of this thread.
Fucking use it, god damn.

2009-04-24 19:52:09

#2362

Flaming_Maniac: prince of insufficient light; +2,490|6853|67.222.138.85

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Next user to have three continuous posts referencing another in any manner except "amagad I want that" gets a temp.

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I am leaving the off topic posts for now so that you may transfer them if you want, because I am too lazy at the moment. Otherwise I'll delete in a few days.

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2009-04-25 08:34:10

#2363

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6344|Winland

A Luxman L-120A!

https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb8/Freezer7Pro/IMG_0372-1.jpg

I got it for practically nothing, 150€ is less than a third of what they usually go for. I just gotta get some new caps for it, the originals from 1983 are a bit, er, done for, considering that capacitors don't usually perform good for more than about 8 years at max. It's not so bad, though, caps are cheap.

Specs:

2x100W into 8Ω
>106dB SNR
0.01% THD at rated Wattage
2-band EQ, 150/300/600Hz low-pass and 1500/3000/6000Hz high-pass. +/-10dB. Bypassable.

It's sex.

Last edited by Freezer7Pro (2009-04-25 09:24:00)

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-04-25 15:31:05

#2364

Finray: Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro; +2,629|5935|Catherine Black

Sexy.

Nice choice on sticky btw Flaming.

2009-04-25 17:25:07

#2365

FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6647|so randum

freezer, ever thought of reboxing your stuff? cause although it's grade A and all, it looks messy as hell.

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Always raining and foggy
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2009-04-26 05:33:35

#2366

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6344|Winland

FatherTed wrote:
freezer, ever thought of reboxing your stuff? cause although it's grade A and all, it looks messy as hell.

What exactly do you mean?

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-04-26 11:24:23

#2367

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6714|NYC / Hamburg

ohh, look at all those buttons and dials

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2009-04-26 11:28:53

#2368

FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6647|so randum

Freezer7Pro wrote:
FatherTed wrote:
freezer, ever thought of reboxing your stuff? cause although it's grade A and all, it looks messy as hell.
What exactly do you mean?

recasing them. so it all matches. i know thats only an aesthetic thought

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Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella

2009-04-26 11:30:12

#2369

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6344|Winland

FatherTed wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
FatherTed wrote:
freezer, ever thought of reboxing your stuff? cause although it's grade A and all, it looks messy as hell.
What exactly do you mean?
recasing them. so it all matches. i know thats only an aesthetic thought

Recase what?

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-04-26 12:28:03

#2370

FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6647|so randum

Freezer7Pro wrote:
FatherTed wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:

What exactly do you mean?
recasing them. so it all matches. i know thats only an aesthetic thought
Recase what?

all the sound stuff you have grouped together. a group i was in in design tech did something similar, looked good.

Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella

2009-04-26 12:33:16

#2371

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6561|Finland

Hmph cancelled the Enermax order and ordered Corsair TX850W for 135€.
It is available immediately.

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2009-04-26 13:45:45

#2372

Brasso: member; +1,549|6777

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Hmph cancelled the Enermax order and ordered Corsair TX850W for 135€.
It is available immediately.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"

2009-04-26 13:46:27

#2373

csmag: Member; +92|6593|Canada

haffeysucks wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Hmph cancelled the Enermax order and ordered Corsair TX850W for 135€.
It is available immediately.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

corsair is sexy

2009-04-26 13:58:17

#2374

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6561|Finland

csmag wrote:
haffeysucks wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Hmph cancelled the Enermax order and ordered Corsair TX850W for 135€.
It is available immediately.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
corsair is sexy

besides the saved money will be put in DX11 hardware

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2009-04-26 14:02:08

#2375

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6344|Winland

FatherTed wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
FatherTed wrote:

recasing them. so it all matches. i know thats only an aesthetic thought
Recase what?
all the sound stuff you have grouped together. a group i was in in design tech did something similar, looked good.

https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb8/Freezer7Pro/IMG_00752.jpg

I don't see any need for that

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

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