Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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Between a good $150 set and a $1500 set theres barely going to be a fraction of a percentage difference.
If people want to spent 10 times as much for that imperceptible fraction which is lost in subjectivity then good luck to them.

The vast bulk of music is recorded and mastered so badly it barely warrants worrying about.
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Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5434|Sydney
Oh, there is a noticeable difference. I've recorded with enough bands in enough recording studios with enough different producers and listened through enough cans to tell. But for home audio listening via my PC, it seems a little ridiculous shelling out something that is worth about as much as my entire PC for a set of cans. Like I say, I'm happy with the sound, the soundstage is very good for something of this price point, the clarity and detail, especially in the highs is great, the bass is night and tight, could be a little fatter for my taste but they're not circumaural so that is to be expected. The mids are nice and articulate too

But yeah, there certainly isn't the same difference in quality relative to price.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6726

Dilbert_X wrote:

Between a good $150 set and a $1500 set theres barely going to be a fraction of a percentage difference.
If people want to spent 10 times as much for that imperceptible fraction which is lost in subjectivity then good luck to them.

The vast bulk of music is recorded and mastered so badly it barely warrants worrying about.
what are you talking about? barely a fraction of a percentage of difference between $150's worth (i.e. mid-range sennies) and $1500?!? (i.e. full hi-fi set-up with actual audio monitors/hi-fi headphones)? are you kidding? "imperceptible fraction which is lost in subjectivity"? dilbert, what the fuck are you talking about... seriously. and as for "the vast bulk of music is recorded and mastered so badly"... substantiate this? it's 2011, everyone downloads lossless quality music nowadays... and as for recording, the means and methods of mastering music is now so cheap and accessible that the 'drip down' democratisation of quality means people can produce 1990's-era studio albums in their BEDROOMS. i really have abso-fucking-lutely no idea what you're talking about. we're not all listening to youtube rips and myspace recordings in 96kbps ripped audio...
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Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6726
price-performance relativity is a whole other matter but as for this catch-all, dismiss-everything "it's subjective k and expensive stuff is only for pretentious morons"... you are wrong on so, so many levels it is untrue. you need some new 'sound engineer' friends, dilbert.
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Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5434|Sydney
Actually, if you look on what.cd, demonoid etc. it's still obvious that the vast majority don't download lossless quality audio.
And you can't make 1990's era studio quality music in your bedroom, unless you can't tell the difference between a $15,000 home setup and a $500,000 studio - I've recorded in both and I know which I'd prefer.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6726
yeah because internet pirates are 100% of music enthusiasts.

reality check: most audio enthusiasts still buy actual physical records
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Logitech Revue.  Don't need it, but for $99, worth it to see if I can mod it, what with it being Android.
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5434|Sydney

Uzique wrote:

yeah because internet pirates are 100% of music enthusiasts.

reality check: most audio enthusiasts still buy actual physical records
Maybe read before you post?
everyone downloads lossless quality music these days
Yeah, that's why iTunes is out of business
RTHKI
mmmf mmmf mmmf
+1,741|6992|Cinncinatti
well itunes is a music player so unless you mean the store there is no business

and the store has more than music
https://i.imgur.com/tMvdWFG.png
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6726

Jaekus wrote:

Uzique wrote:

yeah because internet pirates are 100% of music enthusiasts.

reality check: most audio enthusiasts still buy actual physical records
Maybe read before you post?
everyone downloads lossless quality music these days
Yeah, that's why iTunes is out of business
you're really not aware of all the music specialist sites that only sell .wav's and lossless audio, are you? you think digital dj's and reviewers are going to waffles for their 192kbps rips? rofl
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Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5434|Sydney
Of course I'm aware of those sites. Does everyone buy through them? No.
You said it, I'm just clarifying that everyone doesn't buy lossless. Not sure why this appears difficult for you to comprehend.
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5434|Sydney

RTHKI wrote:

well itunes is a music player so unless you mean the store there is no business

and the store has more than music
iTunes = iTunes store for the purposes of this discussion.
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5434|Sydney
These little bad boys turned up today

https://www.stereophile.com/images/archivesart/1207ae.1.jpg

Audioengine A2s

Could benefit from a sub for the ultra lows but bass is tight and punchy, mids well defined and the highs sound natural. Nice clarity of sound and the air moving from the front ports will come in handy when it is summer. Not bad for a couple hundred bucks.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6856|132 and Bush

Are those the pc speakers you were hunting?
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Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5434|Sydney
Yep
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,815|6361|eXtreme to the maX

Uzique wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Between a good $150 set and a $1500 set theres barely going to be a fraction of a percentage difference.
If people want to spent 10 times as much for that imperceptible fraction which is lost in subjectivity then good luck to them.

The vast bulk of music is recorded and mastered so badly it barely warrants worrying about.
what are you talking about? barely a fraction of a percentage of difference between $150's worth (i.e. mid-range sennies) and $1500?!? (i.e. full hi-fi set-up with actual audio monitors/hi-fi headphones)? are you kidding? "imperceptible fraction which is lost in subjectivity"? dilbert, what the fuck are you talking about... seriously. and as for "the vast bulk of music is recorded and mastered so badly"... substantiate this? it's 2011, everyone downloads lossless quality music nowadays... and as for recording, the means and methods of mastering music is now so cheap and accessible that the 'drip down' democratisation of quality means people can produce 1990's-era studio albums in their BEDROOMS. i really have abso-fucking-lutely no idea what you're talking about. we're not all listening to youtube rips and myspace recordings in 96kbps ripped audio...
I was talking about the difference between $150 headphones and $1500 headphones, like for like.
Obviously if you run $150 headphones on an ipod and $1500 headphones on a $5k hi-fi there'll be a difference
Run both on the same system and there won't be that much to choose, just as there's not much difference between $500 speakers and $5k speakers.

I'd say studio recording quality has declined a lot over the years, the gains in lossless technology are lost in shitty setups and simply bad mixing.
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Zimmer
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+1,688|7011|Scotland

Uzique wrote:

if you have $1000 to spend on headphones and you go for sennies then you deserve to be foreveralone.jpg
Actually the HD-800s are probably some of the most respected headphones on the market. Definitely some great headphones there.

But if you have a lot to spend on headphones then get the Stax stuff.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6726
from my store experiences the grados whup the sennies. plus they look much better. audiophiles are definitely also aesthetes (come on, look at the top end hi-fi gear...) and i know which pair i'd rather have hung in my records room. grado are beautiful.
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Zimmer
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+1,688|7011|Scotland

Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6726
if i had 5 grand to spend on earphones i wouldn't be here to discuss them with you, i'd be on my yacht snorting coke from the thighs of a pornstar whilst my own personal string quartet plays the original songs for me, live. £1k is definitely my idea of a limit for headphones.
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Beduin
Compensation of Reactive Power in the grid
+510|6005|شمال

Uzique wrote:

if i had 5 grand to spend on earphones i wouldn't be here to discuss them with you, i'd be on my yacht snorting coke from the asshole of a pornstar whilst my own personal string quartet plays the original songs for me, live. £1k is definitely my idea of a limit for headphones.
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Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,815|6361|eXtreme to the maX

Uzique wrote:

if i had 5 grand to spend on earphones i wouldn't be here to discuss them with you, i'd be on my yacht snorting coke from the thighs of a pornstar whilst my own personal string quartet plays the original songs for me, live. £1k is definitely my idea of a limit for headphones.
If I had 5k to spend it on earphones I think I'd just spend it on hookers, stuff the string quartet I'll get a CD.
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