| Yes | 55% | 55% - 52 | ||||
| No | 32% | 32% - 30 | ||||
| Not sure | 11% | 11% - 11 | ||||
| Total: 93 | ||||||
Not in South Aus, here we have minimum speeds, tailgating is mandatory and amphetamines make you a better driver.Here in Australia we have "suggestive speed limits" when it's raining... They aren't the law, but the are the safest speed for the conditions.
Wait, that isn't the law? Knew I was doing something wrong!Dilbert_X wrote:
Not in South Aus, here we have minimum speeds, tailgating is mandatory and amphetamines make you a better driver.Here in Australia we have "suggestive speed limits" when it's raining... They aren't the law, but the are the safest speed for the conditions.
Traffic signals.
Green = Go!
Amber = Go faster!
Red = You've still got time, go!
The only reason you say that is because Germany doesn't have speed limits on the AutobahnsB.Schuss wrote:
absolutely. as has been said, the speed limits are there for a reason, and that is to give drivers enough time to react to a possibly dangerous situation. the faster you are, the less time you have for your reaction, resulting in a lot of accidents.
I believe in germany, speeding and insufficient distancing between cars are the two most important reasons for road accidents today.
we had 3 pedestrians killed on our roads last weekend.. our ads are pretty graphic as wellZombie_Affair wrote:
(NZ Anti Speeding Ad)
The Australian Anti-Speeding campaigns are pretty graphic.
At which point you slow down to get the buffer again.SenorToenails wrote:
Yea, if you leave enough space as that rule says to, someone will merge into that space and eliminate your safety buffer.^*AlphA*^ wrote:
this is the fancy guide rule...
ever driven in a crowded city?
Not in Vic.Zombie_Affair wrote:
Here in Australia we have "suggestive speed limits" when it's raining... They aren't the law, but the are the safest speed for the conditions.Dilbert_X wrote:
At typical city speeds you don't need 2 seconds, you just need to be able to stop safely.
This 2 second thing is a red herring, only applies at 60mph in dry conditions AFAIK, in the wet you need 4 seconds etc.
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actually, it is somewhat of an urban legend. There are speed limits on the majority of german autobahns. If I am informed correctly, only a small percentage of all autobahn kilometers are unrestricted today, because of safety concerns.Mek-Stizzle wrote:
The only reason you say that is because Germany doesn't have speed limits on the AutobahnsB.Schuss wrote:
absolutely. as has been said, the speed limits are there for a reason, and that is to give drivers enough time to react to a possibly dangerous situation. the faster you are, the less time you have for your reaction, resulting in a lot of accidents.
I believe in germany, speeding and insufficient distancing between cars are the two most important reasons for road accidents today.
Or is that just an Urban Legend?
Some vehicles are restricted to certain speeds on the Autobahns. Buses for example can only go 60KM/h with standing passengers, 80KM/h for vehicles with a Gross Weight Rating of 3.5 Tonnes etc, but the law varies slightly between Germany / Switzerland.B.Schuss wrote:
actually, it is somewhat of an urban legend. There are speed limits on the majority of german autobahns. If I am informed correctly, only a small percentage of all autobahn kilometers are unrestricted today, because of safety concerns.Mek-Stizzle wrote:
The only reason you say that is because Germany doesn't have speed limits on the AutobahnsB.Schuss wrote:
absolutely. as has been said, the speed limits are there for a reason, and that is to give drivers enough time to react to a possibly dangerous situation. the faster you are, the less time you have for your reaction, resulting in a lot of accidents.
I believe in germany, speeding and insufficient distancing between cars are the two most important reasons for road accidents today.
Or is that just an Urban Legend?
There are still areas where you can put the pedal to the metal, but they are far and few between. I must look the actual percentage up again.
edit: well, it's obviously not as worse asI thought. According to my source, 47% of all autobahn kilometers have speed restrictions. Looks like there is still enough room left for speeders to roam...
My point is that there is a difference between a skillful driver, and a reckless driver. And yes, they're are skillful drivers. I never said that person wouldn't be driving like an asshat, but what I tried to say is that they are committing themselves to safety, rather than doing none of those tings I mentioned.SenorToenails wrote:
What you just described here is reckless driving. Erratic lane changes while having to worry if you can swap lanes and not get hit by the cars in either of them? If you are cutting it as close as you suggest here, you are driving like an absolute asshat.dan673 wrote:
When I say responsible, I mean people with years and years of driving experience. These are people who know to check their blind spots constantly when merging and switching lanes erratically; people who can estimate with great accuracy how long it will take for the car on the left lane to catch up to the car in front of you on your lane, so you can determine whether you can speed up fast enough to get in front of that car on the left lane without smashing into the car in front of you; people who use their blinkers every single time when switching lanes. All of that, and more, while speeding. Now I hope you understand what I mean by "responsible" speeding.
I agree with you totaly :]FEOS wrote:
Speeding may be against the law, but it isn't always reckless. It's a matter of degrees and conditions at the time (eg, weather).
You may be able to justify it to yourself, but that doesn't make it legal.dan673 wrote:
I'm saying if you need to get to work, and you have a major presentation to make, which would define you keep/losing your job, and you needed to speed, would you consider yourself to be driving recklessly because your speeding, or not recklessly because you have a matter that requires you to speed.God Save the Queen wrote:
law is the law
Not was I was asking him.Deadmonkiefart wrote:
You may be able to justify it to yourself, but that doesn't make it legal.dan673 wrote:
I'm saying if you need to get to work, and you have a major presentation to make, which would define you keep/losing your job, and you needed to speed, would you consider yourself to be driving recklessly because your speeding, or not recklessly because you have a matter that requires you to speed.God Save the Queen wrote:
law is the law
Tell that to the law enforcers (cops) who also break the law. They like most people would give you a quick smirk and be on their way.God Save the Queen wrote:
I think breaking the law is reckless.
Interesting you say that, because every time I drive on the highway, a cop is doing 90-95 on the left lane.The#1Spot wrote:
Tell that to the law enforcers (cops) who also break the law. They like most people would give you a quick smirk and be on their way.God Save the Queen wrote:
I think breaking the law is reckless.
I will agree to that in a very limited extent. My cause for concern is that the skilled driver pulling those moves cannot assume that the other cars on the road will not do something erratic, especially when they are cutting things close. The safety guidelines for driving exist for a reason, and it is to account for people of all skill levels driving on the same roads.dan673 wrote:
My point is that there is a difference between a skillful driver, and a reckless driver. And yes, they're are skillful drivers. I never said that person wouldn't be driving like an asshat, but what I tried to say is that they are committing themselves to safety, rather than doing none of those tings I mentioned.
Then you can become a road hazard to everyone traveling the speed limit.ZombieVampire! wrote:
At which point you slow down to get the buffer again.
