Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6153|Ireland
MADD is now going after GTA4 for Drunk driving.

Link http://www.dailytech.com/MADD+Thompson+ … e11660.htm

Excerpt:

MADD released a statement saying, "Drunk driving is not a game, and it is not a joke.  Drunk driving is a choice, a violent crime and it is also 100 percent preventable."

The organization is also trying to convince publisher Take-Two Interactive and developer Rockstar Games to stop distribution of the popular game "out of respect for the millions of victims/survivors of drunk driving."

In GTA IV players can "drink" at bars and then afterwards have the option of hailing a taxi, walking off their intoxication, or throwing caution to the wind and driving drunk.  When driving drunk the view blurs and its harder to steer.  Players recover from intoxication after several minutes in-game.



So the million dollar question is " Does Violence in Games, Lyrics, T.V., and Movies desensitise people from violence "?

Well I say the answer is obviously YES.  Especially in people with brains that are still developing.  I know some people are going to flame me and say I'm wrong and that if that was the case then people would be going around shooting each other all the time, well look at the paper 'cuz there are a significant number of people who are attracted to needless/pointless violence and stupidity.

If you are a parent think about this, what if instead of a game where murder and mayhem was simulated and to an extent glamorized, it was Suicide that was simulated and glamorized.  Would you want your son/daughter sitting around playing that game for hours and hours.  Do you think suicide would go up among teens?  Would it make you uncomfortable and realize it is unhealthy and dangerous for your kid.  If this is the case why would it be ok to give your kid a game in which the object is to go around hurting other people?  Are you willing to risk your kid hurting someone else but not himself?

Honestly I think that a lot of games, music, and movies are out of control nowdays and poisoning society.  There are so many worthless peices of shit raising more worthless pieces of shit that it makes me want the US to enact sterilizing people based on criminal record, drug use, and education.  I still remember when the people on Jerry Springer weren't mainstream yet I have been meeting these people more and more.

So what do you say, Is there any correlation between societal decay and what we turn to for entertainment.
Havok
Nymphomaniac Treatment Specialist
+302|6644|Florida, United States

I think it varies by age.  An 8 year old might be more prone to engaging in more dangerous activities from playing violent games, but then again, I don't think 8 year olds should be playing GTA4 or other M rated games.  I think almost everybody 16+ is mature enough to know the difference between video games and reality.  The margin of individuals who are incapable of deciphering between the two is miniscule and should not be justification for removing/ altering the game.
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6100|North Tonawanda, NY
Does violent media desensitize people?  Maybe.  I think that people aren't desensitized to actual violence, but to depictions of violence.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|6727|Argentina
Don't blame the videogames, blame the stupid parents letting 10 years old kids play M rated games.
Volatile
Member
+252|6674|Sextupling in Empire

Poor parenting leads to violence, nothing else.
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6438
no
PureFodder
Member
+225|6255
I've been playing GTA. Yes you can drunk drive, and when you do you drive all over the place, crash frequently, kill people and get arrested. After trying drunk driving in the game a couple of times I chose to get taxis when drunk instead because even in the game it's frustrating and causes all sorts of problems. The game actually advises you to get a cab too.

Playing GTA 4 seriously puts you off even considering drunk driving.

On a more general note on the topic of movies, games and songs about violence encouraging people to commit violence:
"If listening to music glorifying violence leads to violence, then did the 1912 overture lead to a rash of drive-by cannonings?" - Mark Steel
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6423|The Twilight Zone

sergeriver wrote:

Don't blame the videogames, blame the stupid parents letting 10 years old kids play M rated games.
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FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6380|'Murka

I've been running around shooting people through walls with my ACOG-equipped M60. I would never be doing it if it weren't for COD4.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Mystline
Banned
+38|6090|United States
People are quick to blame the game and not the person playing the game.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6375|North Carolina
Censorship is not the answer.  Parenting is.
Runs_with_sciss0rs
Well butter my buscuit
+121|6161|14072
I hate it when people say stuff like that. They grew up watching the most violent cartoons ever (Looney Toons, Tom and Jerry etc.). Nobody complained about it then
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6460|Northern California
To answer the question bluntly, No.  Peoples' bad decisions and poor behavior lead to violence.  Sure the various formats of media from birth to death contribute to stimulate methods and perhaps a casual reference to such violence, but of course they can't be to blame..solely.

It's basic common sense.  A small child given violent television to watch from age 1 to 5, daily, will obviously have zero judgment realities that are non-violent..in other words, he'd be a little psychopath.."brainwashed" to be so.  The only difference between that child and others, as they get older, is less brainwashing, conflicting "understanding" of how to really deal with situations (non-violently), and ultimately personal experience.  With this perspective, it's easy to say "yes, the violent media stimulation co-mingles and contributes to violent tendencies in one's judgment." 

On the topic of the GTA series games, I'm disgusted.  But like the rest of the public, as each release comes out, more and more it's met with less resistence and disgust because, and I quote:

"Vice is a monster of so freitful mein,
as to be hated, needs but to be seen.
Yet seen too oft, familiar with her face,
we first endure, then pity, then embrace."


Uhthankyouverymuch.
MAGUIRE93
High Angle Hell
+182|6164|Schofield Barracks
its all age.
I'm 14 (soon 15) and video games don't make me or my friends violent.
S3v3N
lolwut?
+685|6488|Montucky

Turquoise wrote:

Censorship is not the answer.  Parenting is.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6499|Global Command

S3v3N wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Censorship is not the answer.  Parenting is.
Commie Killer
Member
+192|6356
Maybe, MAYBE, MAYBE video games are responsible for desensitising people to death of humans, for example, we can brush of the death of a human, but the death of a puppy is another matter all together: http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=95743&p=1

I do not intend to start a debate about that puppy, leave it dead

Last edited by Commie Killer (2008-05-01 17:44:39)

Yellowman03
Once Again, We Meet at Last
+108|6204|Texas
Though psychologically video games do raise arousal and can be models for younger children, it is ultimately up to the parent to set limits and explain the game. Some kids are just more impressionable and do actually get violent. However, they are the extreme minority that get media coverage, and those are the cases organizations like MADD use for "evidence."

Statistically, a child is more likely to become violent by watching an aggressive parent than by playing a video game.
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6438
Look kids are smart enough to be able to tell the difference between a game and RL. They can all tell that the game's world is completely cut-off from real life and what is possible and acceptable in a game is not as such IRL.




Also an interesting fact, the FBI says that violent acts committed by youths has been steadily declining since the year 1993, with the only year since then with more youth violence than 1992 was 1998, in the wake of Columbine and the copy-cat shootings. 1993 was the year DOOM was released.
jsnipy
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+3,276|6492|...

Turquoise wrote:

Censorship is not the answer.  Parenting is.

Mystline wrote:

People are quick to blame the game and not the person playing the game.
HurricaИe
Banned
+877|5931|Washington DC
No, they don't. Shitty parents and shitty environments lead to violence. To think that the Columbine shooters were triggered by Doom or by music is completely asinine and shows a failure at the cellular level of a person's brain. Why the hell would it NOT be the parent's fault that their kids handled their situations like that? Why the hell would it NOT be the fault of the environment they were raised in?
Volatile
Member
+252|6674|Sextupling in Empire

HurricaИe wrote:

No, they don't. Shitty parents and shitty environments lead to violence. To think that the Columbine shooters were triggered by Doom or by music is completely asinine and shows a failure at the cellular level of a person's brain. Why the hell would it NOT be the parent's fault that their kids handled their situations like that? Why the hell would it NOT be the fault of the environment they were raised in?
Exactly.

I know parenting is a large deciding factor as to how an individuals mind and behavior will be shaped. Those friends of mine that had abusive and completely detached parents(myself included) have anger issues and would be more prone to giving into violent tendencies, while those who had more involved and caring parents do not have these issues.

But enviroment and experiences also play a huge role as well. I had a friend that was really laid back and stayed out of trouble while his brother constantly suffered from problems at school and with the law. If I were to guess it was most likely due to the influence of his friends(their problems most likely stemming from poor parenting).
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|6651|Disaster Free Zone

sergeriver wrote:

Don't blame the videogames, blame the stupid parents letting 10 years old kids play M rated games.
No. Just no.
Bull3t
stephen brule
+83|6271
Oh blow me.

They will blaime anything, It is up to the parents weither they want there child to play it or not.

The title is self-explanitory "GRAND THEFT AUTO", I mean come on.

You would be stupid to go out and buy the game for your kid and then worry about drunk driving.

Look at the fucking Movie industry, Whats the difference?
SealXo
Member
+309|6505
Well, Ive been playing violent shit since i was 6 or 7. And I dont feel violent. I dont go and beat kids up. I mean I punched a kid once this year for taliking trash for weeks.

But I mean, I dont really think they have affected me

I mean Ive seen people die and videos of murders and stuff. In movies I see people die all the time and it never bothers me. Thats probably why...

And I think (black) Rap is trash. I turn on the radio every day and I hear "Ill fuck you in the bathroom on the bar table blag blah"
or, I hope i see a minussign

LOL
i thing that gay ass hip hop is bad about fucking women and stuff but i listen to atmosphere. My favorite music..

Other than that whatever, Grand theft auto and shit made me tougher mentally.

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