Read up I already stated why I think liberals are unpatriotic.GorillaTicTacs wrote:
You didn't "list" anything, you said...lowing wrote:
Great rant.......Next time read my post before you do so. I ALREADY SAID I do not call liberals un-patriotic for asking questions. THEN I listed why I call them un-patriotic, and questioning govt. was NOT on that list, but it certainly was on yours for a rebuttal.Which "institution"? The Constitution? Our service members? Our court system? You can't be specific because the facts are not on your side. Sweeping generalizations and then denial when someone picks it apart does not win a debate. "You responded to what I didn't mean to say" doesn't cut it.I call them un-patriotic because they do not support a single institution that gave them the right and freedom to be so.
All of these have been under sustained attack for the last 30 years or so, by the right wing.
Our mighty military machine is gutted, watching their budget go to private contractors and bloated but useless weapons programs while our returning soldiers get told to get in the soup line to pick up their benefits. Liberals pay their taxes as much as anyone to support this regardless. Our need for soldiers to defend the US was never in question by anyone, the need to offer blind support for government operations during an unpopular war (including recruitment for more bodies and minds to break), that's something else.
Our Constitution has been thoroughly shredded, starting with Reagan's War on Drugs and going completely to hell with PATRIOT acts I and II, along with, well, all the "secret programs"...including and especially the "institution" of systemic torture programs. If our government does this, nobody is free, nobody has clean hands.
Our court system has been under extraordinary attack by the right wing, complete defamation of "liberal activist judges" and whatnot. If the courts were truely stacked in favor of the people or constitutional principles, the ACLU wouldn't even need to exist.
I just went through this thread top to bottom, and you talked about a Marine recruiting station in SF, and made a few generalizations about how we as a country fear nationalism.lowing wrote:
Read up I already stated why I think liberals are unpatriotic.
Starve the beast. Isn't that what wing-nuts say about taxes and social programs? Why can't it be the same for the bludgeon of our misguided foreign policy? Or it only matters when its your money and not someone else's starry-eyed kid?
I mentioned recruiting in SF, the endorsement of turning our military over to the whims of the UN. pro-flag burning, etc......ALL contribute to my opinion that liberals are unpatriotic.GorillaTicTacs wrote:
I just went through this thread top to bottom, and you talked about a Marine recruiting station in SF, and made a few generalizations about how we as a country fear nationalism.lowing wrote:
Read up I already stated why I think liberals are unpatriotic.
Starve the beast. Isn't that what wing-nuts say about taxes and social programs? Why can't it be the same for the bludgeon of our misguided foreign policy? Or it only matters when its your money and not someone else's starry-eyed kid?
By the way, I served 4 years. How bout you?