I agree that a gay bar next to a Temple, Mosque or Church would be inadequate, but you can't say gays celebrate their immorality. They don't choose to be gay, they just are gay. Who wants to be pointed as different or weird by the whole society? Nobody does.Stingray24 wrote:
I don't think a gay bar would be built by a mosque or a church. Usually when people want to celebrate their immorality they try to stay away from a mosque/church.
Same would apply to a swingers bar or tranny bar or whatever other bar that's geared towards a specific sexual preference. The point is people do not like to be near religious institutions when doing things that are generally considered immoral by such institutions. They would rather be in an environment that is accepting of their choices.
Well, I posed a pretty simple question and I can see the people who can not confront reality. I like how it all comes back to christans are intolerant and in America nothing would happen.
But would anyone like to confront what would happen to YOU if you decided to open a gay bar near a Mosque in Saudi Arabia? Any where in Mecca? How about if you decided to openly wear a shirt with a cross on it or the star of David while touring Mecca?
Last I knew EVERY muslim has to make a trip to Mecca. Logically that would be the place most influenced by Muslims and therefore the most tolerant peaceful place on earth. Where better to have a pig roast southern style Bar-b-que. I am sure the local clerics wouldn't mind that.
I realize that many of you on here can never come to the realization that the religious police would pull you off the street in a minute. Being gay is a crime in the birthplace of the most peaceful and tolerant religion. Don't draw a picture of Mohamad there or get caught bearing a cross or star of David. Fact is that if you are a woman and get raped you very well could be killed for your crime. Please don't show cleavage because the locals can become unfriendly.
OK, now you can go back to complaining about how fucked up America is and christians are while defending Islam.
But would anyone like to confront what would happen to YOU if you decided to open a gay bar near a Mosque in Saudi Arabia? Any where in Mecca? How about if you decided to openly wear a shirt with a cross on it or the star of David while touring Mecca?
Last I knew EVERY muslim has to make a trip to Mecca. Logically that would be the place most influenced by Muslims and therefore the most tolerant peaceful place on earth. Where better to have a pig roast southern style Bar-b-que. I am sure the local clerics wouldn't mind that.
I realize that many of you on here can never come to the realization that the religious police would pull you off the street in a minute. Being gay is a crime in the birthplace of the most peaceful and tolerant religion. Don't draw a picture of Mohamad there or get caught bearing a cross or star of David. Fact is that if you are a woman and get raped you very well could be killed for your crime. Please don't show cleavage because the locals can become unfriendly.
OK, now you can go back to complaining about how fucked up America is and christians are while defending Islam.
I would suggest that some Catholic Ministers have no issues with this.Stingray24 wrote:
Same would apply to a swingers bar or tranny bar or whatever other bar that's geared towards a specific sexual preference. The point is people do not like to be near religious institutions when doing things that are generally considered immoral by such institutions. They would rather be in an environment that is accepting of their choices.
they do a great job with not trying to be viewed as weird in their gay pride paradessergeriver wrote:
I agree that a gay bar next to a Temple, Mosque or Church would be inadequate, but you can't say gays celebrate their immorality. They don't choose to be gay, they just are gay. Who wants to be pointed as different or weird by the whole society? Nobody does.Stingray24 wrote:
I don't think a gay bar would be built by a mosque or a church. Usually when people want to celebrate their immorality they try to stay away from a mosque/church.
Of course there are priests and ministers who have violated their own moral code. And they wouldn't want to do so right next to their church.Lotta_Drool wrote:
I would suggest that some Catholic Ministers have no issues with this.Stingray24 wrote:
Same would apply to a swingers bar or tranny bar or whatever other bar that's geared towards a specific sexual preference. The point is people do not like to be near religious institutions when doing things that are generally considered immoral by such institutions. They would rather be in an environment that is accepting of their choices.
You are wondering how Muslims would feel, so you turn to a video game debate forum?Lotta_Drool wrote:
I wonder how the religion of peace would deal with this in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Afganistan, Syria, Iraq, or any of the other Major Muslim countries.
Being that it is such a tolerant peaceful religion I would think that they would embrace the diversity and through love win over the gay communtiy and acknowledge their human rights. Maybe they would offer a special surmon for them and welcome them into their Mosque.
Please discuss.
I wonder how women in Ethiopia feel when they are pregnant. Let me go ask a toddler from south Orange County...
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sergeriver wrote:
Who wants to be pointed as different or weird by the whole society? Nobody does.
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But hey, you do know how to rock a shawl.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
http://photo.net/photo/pcd0155/gay-parade-20.4.jpgsergeriver wrote:
Who wants to be pointed as different or weird by the whole society? Nobody does.
my nipples were chaffing
Lotta Drool - you are alone in this one. Whilst we DO agree that there would be a reaction from conservatives - perhaps to the point of outrage - and that radicals would be besides themselves, this does not make them different. What you seem to fail to see is that most religions are highly intolerable of gays. Furthermore, why would you want to plant yourself in the middle of an non-accepting location?
Common sense - I'm hoping - would keep most people from making retarded decisions like that.
Just you go on and enjoy your Muslim bashing - just note that most people do not agree with you - something which you seem to have the impression of.
-konfusion
Common sense - I'm hoping - would keep most people from making retarded decisions like that.
Just you go on and enjoy your Muslim bashing - just note that most people do not agree with you - something which you seem to have the impression of.
-konfusion
Ok from my Muslim perspective, if they'll leave us alone, we'll leave them alone. Even though we will feel a bit disappointed and will want to move.
I browse this thread and i see this at the bottom...
Purely coincidence i assure you.
Purely coincidence i assure you.
There's a difference between being just gay and that thing in the pic.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
http://photo.net/photo/pcd0155/gay-parade-20.4.jpgsergeriver wrote:
Who wants to be pointed as different or weird by the whole society? Nobody does.
They'd secretly love it.
There are other things in life that you can talk about, other than Muslims...you know. These threads are getting too damn old.
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true that
Or worse..............I would call him a liberalLotta_Drool wrote:
There is only one of me and would you mind contributing and telling me what you feel the result would be in one of the countries listed and why.Poseidon wrote:
Oh yeah, and all of us (CamPoe, Bert, Serge, Etc) are all just out to get you, and we have no idea what's going on in these horrid, horrid countries!!!Lotta_Drool wrote:
I hope that Scorpion and Poseidon come and educate the bigots in this thread on how Muslims really feel about gays. They know a lot about this because they know Muslims and stuff. Poseidon brought it to my attention that the Media lies about Muslims and are just spreading hate towards the religion.
Many of you seem really out of touch with reality.
EVERY ONE OF US ARE NAIVE! YOU GUYS KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT ISLAM! Silly me.
You and lowing are pretty much by yourself in thinking that all of Islam is violent. Ever wonder why?
Be careful what you say though or Lowing will come in and call you a racist bigot and what not.
Depends..
Xbone Stormsurgezz
As I said in the other thread - oh yeah, I'm a total liberal, even though I support the death penalty and will always support Israel. Typical conservatve remark when they know they're losing an argument.lowing wrote:
Or worse..............I would call him a liberalLotta_Drool wrote:
There is only one of me and would you mind contributing and telling me what you feel the result would be in one of the countries listed and why.Poseidon wrote:
Oh yeah, and all of us (CamPoe, Bert, Serge, Etc) are all just out to get you, and we have no idea what's going on in these horrid, horrid countries!!!
EVERY ONE OF US ARE NAIVE! YOU GUYS KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT ISLAM! Silly me.
You and lowing are pretty much by yourself in thinking that all of Islam is violent. Ever wonder why?
Be careful what you say though or Lowing will come in and call you a racist bigot and what not.
You remind me of Lil' Cheney from the Lil' Bush show on Comedy Central. "Ra ra ra, LIBERALS ra ra ra."
Please do not go to an Islamic country and openly support Israel, that peaceful and tolerant religion will hand you your head on a platter. As a matter of fact do not try and enter an Islamic country with an Israel VISA on your passport, you will be denied entry, but of course I am generalizing.Poseidon wrote:
As I said in the other thread - oh yeah, I'm a total liberal, even though I support the death penalty and will always support Israel. Typical conservatve remark when they know they're losing an argument.lowing wrote:
Or worse..............I would call him a liberalLotta_Drool wrote:
There is only one of me and would you mind contributing and telling me what you feel the result would be in one of the countries listed and why.
Be careful what you say though or Lowing will come in and call you a racist bigot and what not.
You remind me of Lil' Cheney from the Lil' Bush show on Comedy Central. "Ra ra ra, LIBERALS ra ra ra."
That has to do with what I said...how? I said - you call me a liberal with no basis. You chose to dodge my rebuttal, which pretty much proves that you've taken up the old "when in doubt, call him a liberal" ploy.lowing wrote:
Please do not go to an Islamic country and openly support Israel, that peaceful and tolerant religion will hand you your head on a platter. As a matter of fact do not try and enter an Islamic country with an Israel VISA on your passport, you will be denied entry, but of course I am generalizing.Poseidon wrote:
As I said in the other thread - oh yeah, I'm a total liberal, even though I support the death penalty and will always support Israel. Typical conservatve remark when they know they're losing an argument.lowing wrote:
Or worse..............I would call him a liberal
You remind me of Lil' Cheney from the Lil' Bush show on Comedy Central. "Ra ra ra, LIBERALS ra ra ra."
Actually I have no idea if you are a liberal or not, when I get pissed off at someone I can not think of anything as bad as that to call someone.Poseidon wrote:
That has to do with what I said...how? I said - you call me a liberal with no basis. You chose to dodge my rebuttal, which pretty much proves that you've taken up the old "when in doubt, call him a liberal" ploy.lowing wrote:
Please do not go to an Islamic country and openly support Israel, that peaceful and tolerant religion will hand you your head on a platter. As a matter of fact do not try and enter an Islamic country with an Israel VISA on your passport, you will be denied entry, but of course I am generalizing.Poseidon wrote:
As I said in the other thread - oh yeah, I'm a total liberal, even though I support the death penalty and will always support Israel. Typical conservatve remark when they know they're losing an argument.
You remind me of Lil' Cheney from the Lil' Bush show on Comedy Central. "Ra ra ra, LIBERALS ra ra ra."
Forgot where I saw it, but in Dabai, next to a mosque is a large dance club..and there's gays in Dubai..and nobody slaughtered yet.
I sense a redundancy in the force.ATG wrote:
And Islamic Muslims would cut their heads off.