FEOS wrote:
Just how lazy is your logic? You and others have decried the amount of arms the US provides to various countries world-wide. Do you seriously think that the only way for Saddam Feddayeen agents to get American-built weapons is with the knowledge/support of the US?
I didn't say that - read what I actually wrote. I said the exact opposite.
FEOS wrote:
Regardless of whether the UN should have dealt with it (17 resolutions, anyone?), it doesn't change the reason for the invasion, which is different than what you put forward (ties to AQ).
I didn't put forward the AQ link, your President did.
If you make the claims, then source them.
BTW SOP is to read the thread before you start making ignorant comments and telling people to 'source or STFU'.
You never bother to source anything, why should I? But here goes - it took a whole 10 seconds on google.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/ … .al.qaeda/Cheney blasts media on al Qaeda-Iraq link
Says media not 'doing their homework' in reporting ties
Friday, June 18, 2004 Posted: 2:25 AM EDT (0625 GMT)
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Vice President Dick Cheney said Thursday the evidence is "overwhelming" that al Qaeda had a relationship with Saddam Hussein's regime in Iraq, and he said media reports suggesting that the 9/11 commission has reached a contradictory conclusion were "irresponsible."
"There clearly was a relationship. It's been testified to. The evidence is overwhelming," Cheney said in an interview with CNBC's "Capitol Report."
"It goes back to the early '90s. It involves a whole series of contacts, high-level contacts with Osama bin Laden and Iraqi intelligence officials."
"The press, with all due respect, (is) often times lazy, often times simply reports what somebody else in the press said without doing their homework."
Members of 9/11 commission found "no credible evidence" that Iraq was involved in the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks carried out by al Qaeda hijackers, and they concluded that there was "no collaborative relationship" between Iraq and Osama bin Laden, the network's leader, according to details of its findings disclosed Wednesday at a public hearing.
However, the commission also found that bin Laden did "explore possible cooperation with Iraq."
Cheney told CNBC that cooperation included a brigadier general in the Iraqi intelligence service going to Sudan, where bin Laden was based prior to moving his operations to Afghanistan, to train al Qaeda members in bomb-making and document forgery.
Both Cheney and President Bush are strongly disputing suggestions that the commission's conclusion that there were no Iraqi fingerprints on the 9/11 attacks contradicts statements they made in the run-up to the Iraq war about links between Iraq and al Qaeda.
Bush, who has said himself that there is no evidence Iraq was involved in 9/11, sought to explain the distinction Thursday, saying that while the administration never "said that the 9/11 attacks were orchestrated" with Iraqi help, "we did say there were numerous contacts between Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda."
"The reason I keep insisting that there was a relationship between Iraq and Saddam and al Qaeda [is] because there was a relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda," the president said. (Full story)
In his CNBC interview, Cheney went a bit further. Asked if Iraq was involved in 9/11, he said, "We don't know."
"What the commission says is they can't find evidence of that," he said. "We had one report, which is a famous report on the Czech intelligence service, and we've never been able to confirm or to knock it down."
The uncorroborated Czech report, which has been widely disputed, alleged that 9/11 ringleader Mohammed Atta met with an Iraqi intelligence agent in Prague before the attacks.
Asked if he knows information that the 9/11 commission does not know, Cheney replied, "Probably."
As far as I remember all the above has been shown to be total bullshit - the subject of the OP.
Why exactly were Bush and Cheney insinuating significant and longstanding links between Saddam, Iraq, Al Qaeda and Bin Laden when they can't have believed it was true?
Compare and contrast Cheney's statements with George Tenet's.
We could never verify that there was any Iraqi authority, direction and control, complicity with al-Qaeda for 9/11 or any operational act against America, period.
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