Poll

How'd you feel if they built a Mosque in your negihborhood?

I'd be mad and I'd complain about it14%14% - 48
I wouldn't care tbh55%55% - 184
I think it would improve the neighborhood2%2% - 9
Fuck Islam27%27% - 91
Total: 332
rawls2
Mr. Bigglesworth
+89|6850
We have two or three in my town. I live in Buena Park. Ca about two minutes from Knott's Berry Farm. Now what?

To the OP I dont give a rats ass. What scares me are these muslim centers that look very shady.

Last edited by rawls2 (2008-03-21 12:48:32)

Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6828|Long Island, New York

David.P wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

You guys just like to generalize. You're believing the media WAY too much. A MINORITY of Islam is hateful.
The Media? Which fucken media? The Newspapers? The TV stations? The radio? Nope! All i ever here is how peaceful and beautiful islam is, I heard it after 9/11, Even though palestinians were celebrating in the streets, Shouting Allah ackbar death to america. I've heard it in school, Even though a Muslim kid older then me was calling for all white people to be killed(He was a member of the Nation of Islam) For taking his ancestors as slaves, And the school let him say whatever he wanted, But yet when I try to state my own opinion to the contrary it's not allowed for being racist? Bullshit! It's all about pandering and surrendering! Fuck Allah and Fuck Islam and all those who think it's peaceful!
Oh yeah, forgot that one muslim kid you knew represents Islam as a whole. Silly me. You're incredibly naive. Because one person starts spewing hate means that ALL of Islam is violent? Lol, okay. Tell me when Muhammad Ali starts calling for death to america, or Kareem Abdul Jabar starts chanting for the beheading of all infidels. I'll be waiting.

Lotta_Drool wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

r'Eeee wrote:

Are those same as the normal people that go to Mosques? Way to generalise the whole religion.
^^^^

GG, Lotta_Drool. Nice job proving your ignorance.
ahhh the good old liberal, ignorance is judging something based on facts, comment.  Can't argue with that. 

Islam is the most peaceful religion on earth.  No war and hate being spew'd from any Mosques in this world.<--- There am I all smart like you now.  Am I worthy to be part of your group of elite thinkers.  Hey, I'll one up you, the KKK is filled with nice people too and people shouldn't judge them and blacks should welcome them in their communities.

you ignorant hack
Ah, the good old "Let's claim he's a liberal, it's our last resort" speech. I'm a moderate, you dolt. I don't blindly support one faction unlike some people here.

Where did I say every mosque is tolerant? I didn't. I know damn well there are ones in the middle east that are talking hate, violence and bigotry. I'm saying NOT EVERY muslim is an extremist (in fact, a very low amount of them compared to the total amount of muslims on earth), but apparentely you just want to generalize just because you watch Fox News day in and day out. Either that, or some other hate propaganda spewing media outlet.

And why the fuck would you even compare the KKK to Islam? The KKK is BASED off of hate. Your delusion that Islam is too is almost funny.

LOL, you're calling me ignorant? Irony at it's finest. You think an ENTIRE RELIGION OF 1.6 BILLION PEOPLE IS VIOLENT. Oh yeah, but I'm the ignorant one.

Last edited by Poseidon (2008-03-21 13:10:13)

KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,982|6922|949

How would I feel?  The same way I have been feeling for the last 27 years...with my own two hands - endings on/below the surface of my skin feeding impulses to my onboard CPU (brain).

That's about as serious I can get for a stupid topic like this.

Last edited by KEN-JENNINGS (2008-03-21 13:25:37)

David.P
Banned
+649|6564
@Poseidon It's not jsut because he was muslim, It's the situation around his actions that pissed me off.

He said he wanted to kill all white people for slavery, I said you do know that It was muslims who started slavery first, Long story short he got the fucken PC bullshit teachers on my ass.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6828|Long Island, New York

David.P wrote:

@Poseidon It's not jsut because he was muslim, It's the situation around his actions that pissed me off.

He said he wanted to kill all white people for slavery, I said you do know that It was muslims who started slavery first, Long story short he got the fucken PC bullshit teachers on my ass.
Again - so what? Just because your school is/was a bunch of backwards-assed faggots (as is mine) and this kid was talking like people thought he was threatening, doesn't mean he represents muslims as a whole. That's called STEREOTYPING.

I'm telling you - go into a community with Muslims. They won't bite. Talk with some of them. I guarantee you most of them will condemn 9/11, say Israel has a right to exist just as much as as Palestine does, condemn terrorism and say Al-Qaeda and Hamas put a bad name on Muslims as a whole.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6871|SE London

David.P wrote:

He said he wanted to kill all white people for slavery, I said you do know that It was muslims who started slavery first, Long story short he got the fucken PC bullshit teachers on my ass.
No they didn't. Islam isn't nearly as old as slavery. Even if it was, the Middle East was one of the few places in the world where they had been quite forward thinking in terms of human rights and slavery - having the first ever charter of human rights (circa 550BC), the Cyrus cylinder, which abolished slavery (not that it lasted indefinitely).

Last edited by Bertster7 (2008-03-21 13:49:09)

Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|6983
There already is a mosque in my neighborhood. There is a large Muslim population where I live. It doesn't really bother me.
topal63
. . .
+533|7008

Bertster7 wrote:

David.P wrote:

He said he wanted to kill all white people for slavery, I said you do know that It was muslims who started slavery first, Long story short he got the fucken PC bullshit teachers on my ass.
No they didn't. Islam isn't nearly as old as slavery. Even if it was, the Middle East was one of the few places in the world where they had been quite forward thinking in terms of human rights and slavery - having the first ever charter of human rights (circa 550BC), the Cyrus cylinder, which abolished slavery.
It was also Cyrus who took pity on the captive Jewish population plight. There wouldn't even be Judaism today if were not for his multi-cultural acceptance and his allowing the founding of the 2nd Temple (2nd Temple Judaism is the basis of Modern Judaism).
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6941|USA

Poseidon wrote:

lowing wrote:

Poseidon wrote:


So basically, the Germans desire to "not want to live amongst the jews" was justified? Because you're taking up the same ideologies of Adolf Hitler and the Third Reich's desire for that.

Good. Game.

Big difference with those places - people there won't care if a white person moves into Harlem, a Black person moves into Little Italy, etc. It's not like those people are like "I don't want to live near white people". They simply want to be near more of their own. You know, as they are after all a minority.

You, however, find it so stressful to live among muslims just because of what they believe.
Ahhhhh, here we go again with the your the spawn of Hitler bulldhit . Are you really gunna compare me to Hitler because I do not want any Mosques built in my neighborhood ans I choose not to live in a mostly ME'ern community ? Pretty damned desperate comparison to try and make a point I would say.

NO it is the same thing, any black person that moves into a mostly white neighborhood is not murdered or harassed, any more than a white person moving into a black neighborhood would be. It all comes down to personal choice and by you saying there is a "big difference" pretty much admits that every other race is allowed that choice except white people. If white people do it, we are bigots. That my friend makes you the bigger racist. Congrats.
My "hitler bullshit"? I think I've mentioned Hitler maybe twice in D&ST in my almost 2 years of being on BF2s...I'm not COMPARING you to Hitler, I'm saying you share the same ideologies of him. Which you do. You don't want to live amongst a type of people because of what they live in. That is EXACTLY what Hitler wanted. Do you need me to prove it to you?

http://www.kumah.org/uploaded_images/juden-708101.jpg

These are signs that were posted on public and private property in Germany. "Jews not wanted here", it says. Change it to "Muslims not wanted here", and I've pretty much got your desires dead-on.

I have a (white) friend who moved to NYC and eventually moved into Harlem. He's doing just fine, thanks. Obviously you missed what I said - I said white people can move into areas like Little Italy, Harlem etc and people there don't "want them out" like you do. And if they do, they're just as much of a bigot as you are. If a black person in Harlem moved out of Harlem because a white person lived next door to them, then they're EXACTLY like you. A racist and a bigot. I think you've come to the conclusion that I make exceptions for minorities, which I don't. Also as I said, you just like the minorities can move into a more "white" area to be with more of your own. Feel free! THAT doesn't make you a racist or a bigot, it's the fact that you don't WANT to be near anything muslim just because of what they believe.

How exactly does that make me the bigger racist? Not once did I say it's okay for a black person to do the same. I don't care who the fuck lives near me as long as they don't cause trouble.

You're xenophobic and scared of Muslims because you probably listen to Fox News 24/7, lowing. That's the bottom line. Really, is having one of THESE in your neighborhood going to make it look "middle eastern"?

http://www.think-israel.org/mar06pix/ys … boroAR.jpg
I can't believe that I have to point out the difference between me and Hitler but I guess I gotta do what I gotta do.

Hitler blamed the Jews for all of Germany's problems, I do not blame the Muslims.

Hitlers "final solution" was to round all of the Jews up and exterminate them and or experiment with them. to a total of 6 million.

Now I see that you are not comparing me to Hitler, only pointing out that we share the same "ideologies", can you show me in any of my posts where I endorse the mass murder of an entire race or the attempt to with hold the SAME rights and privileges afforded to any other CITIZEN of this country?

To be clear, I do not want special privileges afforded to anyone, and as for where I choose to live, just like I champion the freedoms of others I will also champion my own to CHOOSE where how and with who I want to spend my life without feeling the need to apologize to you or anyone else for it.

I never said Muslims shouldn't have the right to build a mosque in my neighborhood, in our country they have every right to do so. Do you fucking mind if I reserve the right to NOT FUCKING LIKE IT???
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6941|USA

Mek-Izzle wrote:

I think it's hilarious how a grown man is so scared of Muslims. I mean, I hate Islam too (I voted last option), but I have nothing against ordinary Muslims. And I'm definitely not scared of them like you seem to be.

Perhaps it's because we actually have Muslims in this area and the only experience you have of them is from Fox News and some time at a Military Base in Iraq
Not really sure how many times I gotta say this either. A phobia is a fear of something, I do not fear Islam, I simply do not like it nor do I agree with it. Period. This "peaceful and tolerant" so called religion goes against everything the west holds as morally and socially valuable.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6941|USA

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

If you don't want to be called a bigot, prove that opinion.
That opinion is bigoted. Simple as.

Since it is an utterly subjective statement it is unprovable and only shows to highlight the authors prejudices, prejudices that make him a bigot.

The definition of a bigot is:

Being utterly intolerant of Islam makes one a bigot.
and what of being utterly intolerant of

Jews
women
gays
whites
infidels
etc....

ut oh, it is getting pretty damned crowded in here. DO not call me a bigot because I do not tolerate intolerance.

Berster, you better be telling me that your last house purchase was purposely sought for  and bought in a mostly black, hispanic or ME'ern nieghborhood or you can join me wearng this bigot label.
Yup, all of those things would make one a bigot (although for me being intolerant of whites and infidels wouldn't count, because they are not differing creeds, beliefs or opinions).

Actually, I do live in a mostly black neighbourhood. I live near Peckham (New Cross is where I actually live) in South London, it is a very cosmopolitan society and I like it that way.
ummmm am I reading you correctly? are you saying your intolerance of white people and infidels does not count as bigotry?? WHat is your race and religion?
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6871|SE London

lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

and what of being utterly intolerant of

Jews
women
gays
whites
infidels
etc....

ut oh, it is getting pretty damned crowded in here. DO not call me a bigot because I do not tolerate intolerance.

Berster, you better be telling me that your last house purchase was purposely sought for  and bought in a mostly black, hispanic or ME'ern nieghborhood or you can join me wearng this bigot label.
Yup, all of those things would make one a bigot (although for me being intolerant of whites and infidels wouldn't count, because they are not differing creeds, beliefs or opinions).

Actually, I do live in a mostly black neighbourhood. I live near Peckham (New Cross is where I actually live) in South London, it is a very cosmopolitan society and I like it that way.
ummmm am I reading you correctly? are you saying your intolerance of white people and infidels does not count as bigotry?? WHat is your race and religion?
I'm a white atheist. Hence if I were to be intolerant of white people or infidels it would not count as bigotry because they are not differing creeds, beliefs or opinions, since I belong to both of those demographic groups.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2008-03-21 15:20:16)

Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6473|Ireland

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

hey, my best friend is white.
But is he a Typical whitey, or a non Typical whitey. 

Non Typicals don't count.
he's from Minnesota
My best friend is a Half Black, Half Hispanic, Jew that converted from Islam.  He is a shemale lesbian paraplegic midget that is blind and has lived in each of the lower 48 states and Europe.

This is what enables me to say all sorts of crazy shit about people.

Oh, and just so you know white people from Minnesota are Norwegian ( a non typical shade/breed of white, more of an ivory ).  A typical white person would be from a trailer park in Illinois and he'd be afraid of the black man like Obama's G-Mom and play the banjo.

Last edited by Lotta_Drool (2008-03-21 15:20:34)

GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|6934
his people were scottish
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6473|Ireland

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

his people were scottish
Oh, well was he afraid of you because the scottish are pretty typical white people?  Like maybe he is just saying he is your friend because he is afraid you.  I mean you are a typical black and all so that makes you like 6'4" and highly athletic while him being a typical white person is probably like 5'10" and overweight.

Last edited by Lotta_Drool (2008-03-21 15:41:24)

GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|6934
not black
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6473|Ireland

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

not black
Oh, so that is why your best friend is white.  Well, if you are not black and are not white then what else is there?
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|6934
American
Shocking
sorry you feel that way
+333|6289|...

Lotta_Drool wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

not black
Oh, so that is why your best friend is white.  Well, if you are not black and are not white then what else is there?
he's a sexy brown man
inane little opines
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6473|Ireland

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

American
Typical American answer......... But only if you are really Mexican.  Are you a typical Mexican, you know about 5'9" tall a hard worker that is good at climbing and swimming and is not afraid of the Spanish?
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6941|USA

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:


Yup, all of those things would make one a bigot (although for me being intolerant of whites and infidels wouldn't count, because they are not differing creeds, beliefs or opinions).

Actually, I do live in a mostly black neighbourhood. I live near Peckham (New Cross is where I actually live) in South London, it is a very cosmopolitan society and I like it that way.
ummmm am I reading you correctly? are you saying your intolerance of white people and infidels does not count as bigotry?? WHat is your race and religion?
I'm a white atheist. Hence if I were to be intolerant of white people or infidels it would not count as bigotry because they are not differing creeds, beliefs or opinions, since I belong to both of those demographic groups.
Ok I understand what you are saying now. thanks
Shocking
sorry you feel that way
+333|6289|...

Lotta_Drool wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

American
Typical American answer......... But only if you are really Mexican.  Are you a typical Mexican, you know about 5'9" tall a hard worker that is good at climbing and swimming and is not afraid of the Spanish?
too much stereotyping X_x

Last edited by dayarath (2008-03-21 16:09:01)

inane little opines
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6828|Long Island, New York

lowing wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

lowing wrote:


Ahhhhh, here we go again with the your the spawn of Hitler bulldhit . Are you really gunna compare me to Hitler because I do not want any Mosques built in my neighborhood ans I choose not to live in a mostly ME'ern community ? Pretty damned desperate comparison to try and make a point I would say.

NO it is the same thing, any black person that moves into a mostly white neighborhood is not murdered or harassed, any more than a white person moving into a black neighborhood would be. It all comes down to personal choice and by you saying there is a "big difference" pretty much admits that every other race is allowed that choice except white people. If white people do it, we are bigots. That my friend makes you the bigger racist. Congrats.
My "hitler bullshit"? I think I've mentioned Hitler maybe twice in D&ST in my almost 2 years of being on BF2s...I'm not COMPARING you to Hitler, I'm saying you share the same ideologies of him. Which you do. You don't want to live amongst a type of people because of what they live in. That is EXACTLY what Hitler wanted. Do you need me to prove it to you?

http://www.kumah.org/uploaded_images/juden-708101.jpg

These are signs that were posted on public and private property in Germany. "Jews not wanted here", it says. Change it to "Muslims not wanted here", and I've pretty much got your desires dead-on.

I have a (white) friend who moved to NYC and eventually moved into Harlem. He's doing just fine, thanks. Obviously you missed what I said - I said white people can move into areas like Little Italy, Harlem etc and people there don't "want them out" like you do. And if they do, they're just as much of a bigot as you are. If a black person in Harlem moved out of Harlem because a white person lived next door to them, then they're EXACTLY like you. A racist and a bigot. I think you've come to the conclusion that I make exceptions for minorities, which I don't. Also as I said, you just like the minorities can move into a more "white" area to be with more of your own. Feel free! THAT doesn't make you a racist or a bigot, it's the fact that you don't WANT to be near anything muslim just because of what they believe.

How exactly does that make me the bigger racist? Not once did I say it's okay for a black person to do the same. I don't care who the fuck lives near me as long as they don't cause trouble.

You're xenophobic and scared of Muslims because you probably listen to Fox News 24/7, lowing. That's the bottom line. Really, is having one of THESE in your neighborhood going to make it look "middle eastern"?

http://www.think-israel.org/mar06pix/ys … boroAR.jpg
I can't believe that I have to point out the difference between me and Hitler but I guess I gotta do what I gotta do.

Hitler blamed the Jews for all of Germany's problems, I do not blame the Muslims.

Hitlers "final solution" was to round all of the Jews up and exterminate them and or experiment with them. to a total of 6 million.

Now I see that you are not comparing me to Hitler, only pointing out that we share the same "ideologies", can you show me in any of my posts where I endorse the mass murder of an entire race or the attempt to with hold the SAME rights and privileges afforded to any other CITIZEN of this country?

To be clear, I do not want special privileges afforded to anyone, and as for where I choose to live, just like I champion the freedoms of others I will also champion my own to CHOOSE where how and with who I want to spend my life without feeling the need to apologize to you or anyone else for it.

I never said Muslims shouldn't have the right to build a mosque in my neighborhood, in our country they have every right to do so. Do you fucking mind if I reserve the right to NOT FUCKING LIKE IT???
Did you or did you not say you didn't want muslims around you?

...did you? You did. Therefore, yes, you do share similar ideologies. I didn't say ALL of them, but you do share some of his xenophobic ways. As do other bigots like yourself.

There's a biiiiiiiiig difference between choosing to be near more people that look like you and not wanting certain people around you. Oh, you have the right. Definitely. Go ahead, choose to live away from muslims. Part of your constitutional rights. But it doesn't change the fact that you're a bigot.
Masques
Black Panzer Party
+184|7012|Eastern PA
GS is a chubby white man with a bullet-shaped noggin.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6911|London, England
I'm sorry but this has to be done

Lotta_Drool wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

not black
Oh, so that is why your best friend is white.  Well, if you are not black and are not white then what else is there?
https://kevinchiu.org/emote/facepalm.jpg

Last edited by Mek-Izzle (2008-03-21 16:27:15)

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