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Poll

How'd you feel if they built a Mosque in your negihborhood?

I'd be mad and I'd complain about it14%14% - 48
I wouldn't care tbh55%55% - 184
I think it would improve the neighborhood2%2% - 9
Fuck Islam27%27% - 91
Total: 332
2008-03-27 01:30:59
GorillaTicTacs
Member
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Jesus and Muhammed were pretty cool guys, its their fanboi clubs that scare me.

This whole "Jesus was gentler than Muhammed" arguement is just retarded.  Look at the historical actions of their followers since the inception of each.  No fundamentalist, regardless of them saying "I believe in literal teachings of my holy book", actually believes in the teachings of their holy book.  They pick out snippets that place them apart in their respective "clubs", parts which they can interpret as making them "better" than the other team(s).  Its a symptom of authoritarian follower mentality, nothing more.
2008-03-27 04:07:31
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7050|Argentina

lowing wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

lowing wrote:


I am not using the extremists, I am using the TEACHINGS and the ACTIONS of Islamic lead countries throughout the world. YOU literally have used your STEP MOM to prove your point.
Oh, my bad.  I didn't know you studied the Qur'an.  Sorry.
If you are an expert then stop stalling and compare the 2 messengers of God, CHRIST and MUHAMMAD. Compare their words actions and teachings. For an expert like you it couldn't be difficult to support that Islam is a non-violent and peace loving and tolerant religion.
Jesus is, I think, the second most mentioned person in the Qu'ran.  He's one of the three most important prophets of Islam.  They follow some of his teaching too, I guess, maybe we should ask Poseidon.
2008-03-27 04:09:20
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7050|Argentina

lowing wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Africa and its Islamic rule
Is that the same Africa that has more Christians than it does Muslims?

Encyclopedia Britannica estimates that approximately 46.5% of all Africans are Christians and another 40.5% are Muslims

(source)
glad you brought that up. Take at look at the highest Islamic populations in Africa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Isla … ountry.png


and then places like ohhhhh I dunno Sudan?
And the Christian African countries are a fucking paradise?
2008-03-27 04:21:20
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6944|USA

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

lowing wrote:

places like ohhhhh I dunno Sudan?
If you're refering to the Darfur crisis, then, hate to tell you this, but the victims of said crisis are the largely Islamic sedentary population who are being attacked, largely, by the non-islamic nomadic Janjaweed.


The problems in Sudan have nothing to do with religion.
"A rebellion started in 2003 against the Arab-dominated Sudanese government, with two local rebel groups - the Justice and Equality Movement (JEM) and the Sudanese Liberation Army (SLA) - accusing the government of oppressing non-Arabs in favor of Arabs"

taken from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darfur_conflict

soundes cultural to me, and since we know Arabs are mostly infused with Islam and Islam is NOT just a religion but a culture ..............

anyway, even if I conceded, that bit of cherry picking does not chop down the tree from which you picked it.
2008-03-27 04:24:53
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6944|USA

sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Africa and its Islamic rule
Is that the same Africa that has more Christians than it does Muslims?


glad you brought that up. Take at look at the highest Islamic populations in Africa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Isla … ountry.png


and then places like ohhhhh I dunno Sudan?
And the Christian African countries are a fucking paradise?
LOL, serge again with the cherry picking, you already admitted a few months ago that there is a pattern between Islamic populations and hot spots in the world, do not make me go and find it. Argue the entire post and the spirit of what it is saying or agree with it.
2008-03-27 04:27:15
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7050|Argentina

lowing wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:


glad you brought that up. Take at look at the highest Islamic populations in Africa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Isla … ountry.png


and then places like ohhhhh I dunno Sudan?
And the Christian African countries are a fucking paradise?
LOL, serge again with the cherry picking, you already admitted a few months ago that there is a pattern between Islamic populations and hot spots in the world, do not make me go and find it. Argue the entire post and the spirit of what it is saying or agree with it.
I did, nevertheless you can't blame Islam for Africa.  As you can see half of Africa isn't Muslim, and it still is a real mess.
2008-03-27 04:27:18
lowing
Banned
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Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

lowing wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

lowing wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

lowing wrote:

Ah yes, I few token words by a few leaders.........very very sanitary I must say...............WHERE is the OUTRAGE, the ANGER, the people taking to the streets AGAINST Terrorism like they do when they are insulted?? Their passion over attrocities committed in the name of Islam does not even come close to the passion they express over being insulted, and you damn well know it.
Where were the mass protests against Eric Rudolphs bombings?

They have to have mass rallies in order to condemn terrorism? LOL, okay. God, nothing's enough for you from them.
a single bombing that killed a single person in one single day does not compare to the WORLD WIDE attrocites committed in the name of Islam.

For you to compare the 2, truely shows despiration to justify their attitude.


They also found that mother fucker, charged him with murder and have him in jail.................
You wanna talk about desperation? Lowing, you're desperate to find anything to hate about Islam. Hell, they COULD stage a protest and yet you still wouldn't be happy. And what about the Westboro Baptist Church? The Army of God? Corrupt leaders like Ted Haggard? Why don't Christians stage protests against them? Because it's not necessary. They condemn them, but they don't have to fucking stage a massive protest in order to get their word out. It's the media which does that, and they choose not to most of the time.


Where was the outrage when white christians were killing indians in the hundreds of thousands?

And that's now two people who think you have the same ideologies of Hitler, lowing. You both didn't/don't want a type of people in your country, and you wanted it removed because you believed it was causing the downfall of the nation.

You're afraid to admit that muslims living here cope just fine with life and can adapt to western ways. And even if they don't adapt culturally, they can still be members who contribute to society.
Don't look now, but it isn't finding something to hate Islam about that is the problem. It is finding something good to say about it that would be a struggle.

Oh yeah the Iraq war was an act of terrorism........Don't forget the invasion of Normany, how many people were killed due to allied terrorism back then?

I personally do not want Islam in our country, and the reason for this is pretty obvious. Islam does not gel with western society. Period.

I do not endorse killing all Muslims, I do not endorse forced removing them from our country.

By the way, when are we gunna compare Christ to Muhammad? You seem to want to compare religions, well lets start with the teachings and words and actions of each of their main messengers of God........Or are we gunna drop that angle?
You talk about me using bad examples... how the hell do u compare the invasion of normandy, which was a completely justified invasion to liverate frace to the invasion of iraq, where there was NO reason that the US should get involved... u might say that ssaddam was a bad guy so they went in to stop him... thats bullshit. america has done nothing about scores of genocidal dictators and yet suddenly there so interested with iraq.
Saddam was breaking the resolutions that stop us from kicking his ass 12 years earlier. a decade of diplomacy failed so hostilites re-commenced
2008-03-27 04:29:16
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6944|USA

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

lowing for every violent example u could possibly give from islam's teachingsi could give u 2 from the bible... ancient teachings do not exactly reflect their religon today.... according to the bible we should kill all homosexuals so why are u trying to say that islams teaching does not belong in western society... by ur theory neither does christianity.
I said that CHRISTANS follow the teachings of CHRIST........Which is the NEW Tesament. Now get comparing CHRIST to MUHAMMAD and get back with me
2008-03-27 04:32:34
lowing
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+1,662|6944|USA

GorillaTicTacs wrote:

Jesus and Muhammed were pretty cool guys, its their fanboi clubs that scare me.

This whole "Jesus was gentler than Muhammed" argument is just retarded.
I can understand why you would say that, because to make an argument against is is futile.

Also, I do not excuse Christian history and hypocrisy, the fact is though, Christians by and large have grown out of the 12 century.
2008-03-27 04:35:36
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6944|USA

sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:

sergeriver wrote:


And the Christian African countries are a fucking paradise?
LOL, serge again with the cherry picking, you already admitted a few months ago that there is a pattern between Islamic populations and hot spots in the world, do not make me go and find it. Argue the entire post and the spirit of what it is saying or agree with it.
I did, nevertheless you can't blame Islam for Africa.  As you can see half of Africa isn't Muslim, and it still is a real mess.
Then you agree with the spirit of the post.  Then stop acting like the fact that Islam is violent and intolerant is so absurd. Set aside your PC machine for one second and admit the truth.


Northern Africa is mustly Islamic, and the most fucked up compared to South Africa for instance.
2008-03-27 04:36:20
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7050|Argentina

lowing wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

lowing for every violent example u could possibly give from islam's teachingsi could give u 2 from the bible... ancient teachings do not exactly reflect their religon today.... according to the bible we should kill all homosexuals so why are u trying to say that islams teaching does not belong in western society... by ur theory neither does christianity.
I said that CHRISTANS follow the teachings of CHRIST........Which is the NEW Tesament. Now get comparing CHRIST to MUHAMMAD and get back with me
Jews and Christians accept the Old Testament.
2008-03-27 04:42:12
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7050|Argentina

lowing wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:


LOL, serge again with the cherry picking, you already admitted a few months ago that there is a pattern between Islamic populations and hot spots in the world, do not make me go and find it. Argue the entire post and the spirit of what it is saying or agree with it.
I did, nevertheless you can't blame Islam for Africa.  As you can see half of Africa isn't Muslim, and it still is a real mess.
Then you agree with the spirit of the post.  Then stop acting like the fact that Islam is violent and intolerant is so absurd. Set aside your PC machine for one second and admit the truth.


Northern Africa is mustly Islamic, and the most fucked up compared to South Africa for instance.
South Africa, the Christian country where a 10% of white people forced black people to live under apartheid policies?  South Africa the country where 20% of the population are infected with AIDS?  Define fucked up then.
2008-03-27 04:44:04
oug
Calmer than you are.
+380|6812|Πάϊ
Oh FFS! Ok lowing, like I said before we all agree that Sharia Law etc belong to the past and should be abolished as soon as possible and that those who still support that way of life are fundamentalists who need to disappear.

Now stop trying to make a case against Islam and get in line with McCain who obviously understood that Islam is a dead end.
I watched parts of a speech he made yesterday on CNN. Islam and the ME situation were never mentioned. Instead he attacked Russia, saying among others that they should be kicked out of the G8.

So it's time to start changing your course. First the rhetoric against Islam needs to cool down and then gradually you need to start making a case against the good ol' commies. Because in a few years it's Cold War 2 time.
ƒ³
2008-03-27 04:45:59
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6944|USA

sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

lowing for every violent example u could possibly give from islam's teachingsi could give u 2 from the bible... ancient teachings do not exactly reflect their religon today.... according to the bible we should kill all homosexuals so why are u trying to say that islams teaching does not belong in western society... by ur theory neither does christianity.
I said that CHRISTANS follow the teachings of CHRIST........Which is the NEW Tesament. Now get comparing CHRIST to MUHAMMAD and get back with me
Jews and Christians accept the Old Testament.
What exactly do I have to say to get any of you to do a comarison between the 2 MEN, the 2 MESSENGERS OF GOD, their teachings words and actions, and stop tap dancing around it?
2008-03-27 04:47:38
CameronPoe
Member
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I can't believe this has gone on for 22 pages. We get the message already: lowing has an irrational fear of Muslims.
2008-03-27 04:53:55
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7050|Argentina

CameronPoe wrote:

I can't believe this has gone on for 22 pages. We get the message already: lowing has an irrational fear of Muslims.
Islamophobia?  Nah, that isn't even a word /sarcasm.
2008-03-27 08:26:39
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,983|6925|949

lowing wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:

I said that CHRISTANS follow the teachings of CHRIST........Which is the NEW Tesament. Now get comparing CHRIST to MUHAMMAD and get back with me
Jews and Christians accept the Old Testament.
What exactly do I have to say to get any of you to do a comarison between the 2 MEN, the 2 MESSENGERS OF GOD, their teachings words and actions, and stop tap dancing around it?
Why don't you compare them lowing?  Because it would require far too much use of your brain, that's why.  Maybe you can get another peanut out of your pantry and replace your old brain to get full use out of it.

You make a ridiculous claim, and then the burden is on us to prove it wrong...haha ok.

Last edited by KEN-JENNINGS (2008-03-27 08:28:50)

2008-03-27 10:38:05
lowing
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sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:

sergeriver wrote:


I did, nevertheless you can't blame Islam for Africa.  As you can see half of Africa isn't Muslim, and it still is a real mess.
Then you agree with the spirit of the post.  Then stop acting like the fact that Islam is violent and intolerant is so absurd. Set aside your PC machine for one second and admit the truth.


Northern Africa is mustly Islamic, and the most fucked up compared to South Africa for instance.
South Africa, the Christian country where a 10% of white people forced black people to live under apartheid policies?  South Africa the country where 20% of the population are infected with AIDS?  Define fucked up then.
I mean fucked up as it, what century is it in? Aparteid ended what 15 20 years ago?

When AIDS becomes a religious requirement we will talk about it.
2008-03-27 10:39:09
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7050|Argentina

lowing wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:


Then you agree with the spirit of the post.  Then stop acting like the fact that Islam is violent and intolerant is so absurd. Set aside your PC machine for one second and admit the truth.


Northern Africa is mustly Islamic, and the most fucked up compared to South Africa for instance.
South Africa, the Christian country where a 10% of white people forced black people to live under apartheid policies?  South Africa the country where 20% of the population are infected with AIDS?  Define fucked up then.
I mean fucked up as it, what century is it in? Aparteid ended what 15 20 years ago?

When AIDS becomes a religious requirement we will talk about it.
You said fucked up, that is pretty fucked up IMO.
2008-03-27 10:46:21
lowing
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sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:

sergeriver wrote:


South Africa, the Christian country where a 10% of white people forced black people to live under apartheid policies?  South Africa the country where 20% of the population are infected with AIDS?  Define fucked up then.
I mean fucked up as it, what century is it in? Aparteid ended what 15 20 years ago?

When AIDS becomes a religious requirement we will talk about it.
You said fucked up, that is pretty fucked up IMO.
Yup so is being overly taxed, but we are talking about Islam being intolerant and violent so lets stick to that.
2008-03-27 10:47:50
Lai
Member
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Depends on the architecture. If it's a concrete block with a pathetic little tower that's supposed to be the minnaret I'd complain about it; if it's the AGIA SOFIA II I'd welcome it (even though that was originally a church). In any case I'd certainly drop by after the Ramadan

By the way, how many of you also got this add?:

https://img143.imageshack.us/img143/1885/addmj5.jpg
2008-03-27 10:50:42
lowing
Banned
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CameronPoe wrote:

I can't believe this has gone on for 22 pages. We get the message already: lowing has an irrational fear of Muslims.
Nope I do not fear Islam, I simply do not like it. It is a violent and intolerant religion. The 22 pages are all of you trying to tap dance around that FACT by calling me Hitler and saying I am just generalizing all the while using a very small percentage of Islamiv presence in America as your proof. If you say that the population is small and insignificant to a society, then you can not use them as your shining example as to what Islam is all about. It don't work that way.
2008-03-27 11:00:09
lowing
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

lowing wrote:

sergeriver wrote:


Jews and Christians accept the Old Testament.
What exactly do I have to say to get any of you to do a comarison between the 2 MEN, the 2 MESSENGERS OF GOD, their teachings words and actions, and stop tap dancing around it?
Why don't you compare them lowing?  Because it would require far too much use of your brain, that's why.  Maybe you can get another peanut out of your pantry and replace your old brain to get full use out of it.

You make a ridiculous claim, and then the burden is on us to prove it wrong...haha ok.
Is it really a ridiculous claim??


http://www.answering-islam.de/Main/Silas/founders.htm

http://www.carm.org/islam/Jesus_Muhammad.htm

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20 … christ.htm


Ok pal, yer turn............
2008-03-27 11:02:32
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|6937
religious people are the product of military conquest
2008-03-27 11:08:09
CameronPoe
Member
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lowing wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

I can't believe this has gone on for 22 pages. We get the message already: lowing has an irrational fear of Muslims.
Nope I do not fear Islam, I simply do not like it. It is a violent and intolerant religion. The 22 pages are all of you trying to tap dance around that FACT by calling me Hitler and saying I am just generalizing all the while using a very small percentage of Islamiv presence in America as your proof. If you say that the population is small and insignificant to a society, then you can not use them as your shining example as to what Islam is all about. It don't work that way.
Someone who harps on about an underlying threat posed by muslims to western society bears all the hallmarks of at the very least an irrational obsession and at worst an irrational fear with/of muslims.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2008-03-27 11:08:25)

 

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