BF2S Forums Would US citizens be able to defeat the government?

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

Gawwad wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

I would believe the army will fight for the freedoms, instead for the politicians.

And what do you need the hand guns for in this situation? Or the civilians at all?

You do realize you can pretty much get a .50 Cal sniper in the US right? You also get pretty much any type of gun that is a semi-auto.

this is ONE section, of ONE show in a little backwoods town in missouri.

Gawwad wrote:

Parker wrote:

Gawwad wrote:

Bring forth the exploding log!
That'll teach them!

say it with me now:
B-L-A-C-K P-O-W-D-E-R

B-L-A-C-K P-O-W-D-E-R

Now tell me how you're going to archieve anything with it.

Lets say stop a tank?

yep, i could easily stop armor with black powder.

and thats not even the thermite i have access to, thats only one of the many options.

Parker wrote:

Gawwad wrote:

Parker wrote:

say it with me now:
B-L-A-C-K P-O-W-D-E-R

B-L-A-C-K P-O-W-D-E-R

Now tell me how you're going to archieve anything with it.

Lets say stop a tank?

yep, i could easily stop armor with black powder.

and thats not even the thermite i have access to, thats only one of the many options.

I honestly don't see a bunch of civilians (even with knowledge of explosives) stopping a tank manned by trained military personel.

Gawwad wrote:

Parker wrote:

Gawwad wrote:

Parker wrote:

say it with me now:
B-L-A-C-K P-O-W-D-E-R

Now tell me how you're going to archieve anything with it.

Lets say stop a tank?

yep, i could easily stop armor with black powder.

and thats not even the thermite i have access to, thats only one of the many options.

I honestly don't see a bunch of civilians (even with knowledge of explosives) stopping a tank manned by trained military personel.

thats because you cant even fathom what i am talking about. if you had experience with either, you might see things differently.

ATG wrote:

Gawwad wrote:

Parker wrote:

yep, i could easily stop armor with black powder.

and thats not even the thermite i have access to, thats only one of the many options.

I honestly don't see a bunch of civilians (even with knowledge of explosives) stopping a tank manned by trained military personel.

Oh Geezus, that's sounds so idiotic.

Quoted soz yo're stuck with it.

he just got wrapped up in trying to make me look bad.
happens to the best of em.

Parker wrote:

ATG wrote:

Gawwad wrote:

I honestly don't see a bunch of civilians (even with knowledge of explosives) stopping a tank manned by trained military personel.

Oh Geezus, that's sounds so idiotic.

Quoted soz yo're stuck with it.

he just got wrapped up in trying to make me look bad.
happens to the best of em.

We all know civilians had nothing to do with the Germans losing in Russia.

Parker wrote:

Gawwad wrote:

Parker wrote:

he just got wrapped up in trying to make me look bad.
happens to the best of em.

Didn't realize this was personal for you. I thought this was a debate about werther or not civilians could overthrow the goverment.
Excuse my ignorance.

(side note, is this thread extremely slow and laggy for anyone else? The rest of the forum seems to work fine)

nothing personal, you just got ahead of yourself in an attempt to win a debate.
like i said, it happens to the best of em.
hell, ive done it myself....just slow down and it wont happen.


(side note: http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=96504 )

Well, go ahead and prove me wrong then, tell me a beliveable way of stopping a tank with the kind of equipment civilians have acces to.
For debates sake lets say that the military is against you and doesn't mind blowing you to pieces.

Gawwad wrote:

Parker wrote:

Gawwad wrote:

Didn't realize this was personal for you. I thought this was a debate about werther or not civilians could overthrow the goverment.
Excuse my ignorance.

(side note, is this thread extremely slow and laggy for anyone else? The rest of the forum seems to work fine)

nothing personal, you just got ahead of yourself in an attempt to win a debate.
like i said, it happens to the best of em.
hell, ive done it myself....just slow down and it wont happen.


(side note: http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=96504 )

Well, go ahead and prove me wrong then, tell me a beliveable way of stopping a tank with the kind of equipment civilians have acces to.
For debates sake lets say that the military is against you and doesn't mind blowing you to pieces.

Thermite Charges. Burn right through armor.

Gawwad wrote:

Parker wrote:

Gawwad wrote:

Didn't realize this was personal for you. I thought this was a debate about werther or not civilians could overthrow the goverment.
Excuse my ignorance.

(side note, is this thread extremely slow and laggy for anyone else? The rest of the forum seems to work fine)

nothing personal, you just got ahead of yourself in an attempt to win a debate.
like i said, it happens to the best of em.
hell, ive done it myself....just slow down and it wont happen.


(side note: http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=96504 )

Well, go ahead and prove me wrong then, tell me a beliveable way of stopping a tank with the kind of equipment civilians have acces to.
For debates sake lets say that the military is against you and doesn't mind blowing you to pieces.

ok:





god rest their souls.









well, maybe your right.....we could NEVER accomplish something like that.....

Last edited by Parker (2008-03-19 09:08:38)

Gawwad wrote:

Well, go ahead and prove me wrong then, tell me a beliveable way of stopping a tank with the kind of equipment civilians have acces to.
For debates sake lets say that the military is against you and doesn't mind blowing you to pieces.

Destroy or disable? Destroy, unlikely. Disable, possible. Tracks...

Gawwad wrote:

Parker wrote:

Gawwad wrote:

Well, go ahead and prove me wrong then, tell me a beliveable way of stopping a tank with the kind of equipment civilians have acces to.
For debates sake lets say that the military is against you and doesn't mind blowing you to pieces.

ok:

god rest their souls.









well, maybe your right.....we could NEVER accomplish something like that.....

Thermine - How do you get it to the tank? I don't think they would drive them in crowded streets in a situation like that.

A good roadside bomb could do it though.

you just explained how it would be done.

Another question is whether American citizens would be willing to kill their fellow Americans who happen to be soldiers.

Gawwad wrote:

Ok, you've destroyed one tank. Surely they will change their course of action.
And the army has a fair amount of equipment.

If they only wanted to get rid of the resistance in an are, but it was blocked by roadside bombs they wouldn't necessarily have to get in.

Three words come to mind: siege, artillery, aircraft

now heres where the "you never know" type stuff comes into play.

would they bomb every bit of resistance?
i dont see how they could...that would inspire more people to fight, and on top of that, what would be left after they were done.

as far as aircrafts go.....well, they have to land sometime, and there can only be so many people protecting one airbase. if the thermite does that to armor, imagine what it would do to an airplane (after access to the airfield was gained).
also, we have access to a rifle that is accurate to 2500 yards, more than enough to disable jet engines.


beyond that, i honestly dont know....but someone will.
it would only be a matter of time until someone figured out how to counter those threats.....now how much time is the question.


thats why this falls in the "you never know" category.
though i do feel strongly that those ideas would work.