GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|6675
its considered rape
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6721|Tampa Bay Florida

Turquoise wrote:

Why not just legalize and regulate prostitution?  Proper regulation would involve making sure that prostitutes get regular checkups and that they are forced out of the business if they catch an STD.
Exactly!!  Plus we could get taxes from it too.

I already plus oned you today

But yeah its just like weed.  Regulate it, the people get better quality stuff, and the gov't gets revenue from it.  Everyone wins.
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|6675
except for the criminal element. cant forget the criminals.
HurricaИe
Banned
+877|5992|Washington DC

Spearhead wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Why not just legalize and regulate prostitution?  Proper regulation would involve making sure that prostitutes get regular checkups and that they are forced out of the business if they catch an STD.
Exactly!!  Plus we could get taxes from it too.

I already plus oned you today

But yeah its just like weed.  Regulate it, the people get better quality stuff, and the gov't gets revenue from it.  Everyone wins.
I'm hoping that some day the weed lobby will get stronger. I'll grow a shitload of the stuff, package it and as soon as it goes legal I'll be like the Marlboro of weed.

Either that or invent harmless cigarettes. Whoever makes THAT will be a millionaire.
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6721|Tampa Bay Florida
Maurijuana is to now as alcohol was to the 1920's.  Just no ones realized it yet.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6436|North Carolina

clogar wrote:

i don't want my tax dollars going to check ups for whores
Um... well, under the current healthcare system, tax dollars are only going to the poorest people out there when it comes to healthcare.

Your concern would only apply if we have socialized healthcare, which is a valid concern -- but GS pretty much defused it.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6436|North Carolina

kripp wrote:

If you rape a hooker, is that considered stealing?
Haven't you seen the movie "Lay It Forward"?  j/k
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6680

^*AlphA*^ wrote:

Amsterdam Red Light District anyone?

they're braking a lot down there so... who knows how long we have!
What's actually going on with that? Are they really going to get rid of it all? I haven't really heard much about it, just the occasional mention from mates who are still in Holland.
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6476|The Land of Scott Walker

Turquoise wrote:

Why not just legalize and regulate prostitution?  Proper regulation would involve making sure that prostitutes get regular checkups and that they are forced out of the business if they catch an STD.  There is an area of Nevada that already does something like this, and so far, it's worked pretty well.
You think the government would actually guarantee std-free prostitutes?  They also said no new taxes.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6436|North Carolina

Stingray24 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Why not just legalize and regulate prostitution?  Proper regulation would involve making sure that prostitutes get regular checkups and that they are forced out of the business if they catch an STD.  There is an area of Nevada that already does something like this, and so far, it's worked pretty well.
You think the government would actually guarantee std-free prostitutes?  They also said no new taxes.
Good point, but...  Isn't it better to address this issue with legalization and regulation rather than the current method of pretending that making it illegal somehow makes it disappear?

To me, keeping prostitution illegal is just as futile as keeping pot that way.  A lack of realism is much of the problem with our laws and society.  If we'd only be more practical, many problems such as these would become a lot more manageable.

In other words, regulation like what I posted still improves the situation over the current one.  Less STDs is still better than illegality in combination with a lot more STDs.
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|6713|Disaster Free Zone
It is legal...

https://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2290/picmainfx8.jpg
Name: Angelina Johansson
Age:     21
Weight:     54kg
Height:     5'9
Hair Colour :     Brunette
Desciption:     Elegant, refined and poised – Angelina has walked the catwalks from Milan to Moscow. With impeccable taste, impossibly long legs, and a sexy mane of brown hair – she is an ideal consort to men whose pleasure and pursuits take them to exotic locations, high level corporate events, and the best restaurants.
Rate:     $2,000 / hr

Last edited by DrunkFace (2008-03-16 19:12:09)

jamiecracker
Member
+17|6779|Wollongong,Australia

clogar wrote:

i don't want my tax dollars going to check ups for whores
i think you might find that they have to pay
Monkeyman911
Dun wori, it's K.
+76|6453|California, US
eh....some people are that desperate, so i guess Aye.
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6680

DrunkFace wrote:

It is legal...

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2290/picmainfx8.jpg
Name: Angelina Johansson
Age:     21
Weight:     54kg
Height:     5'9
Hair Colour :     Brunette
Desciption:     Elegant, refined and poised – Angelina has walked the catwalks from Milan to Moscow. With impeccable taste, impossibly long legs, and a sexy mane of brown hair – she is an ideal consort to men whose pleasure and pursuits take them to exotic locations, high level corporate events, and the best restaurants.
Rate:     $2,000 / hr
At $2k an hour you can take her places?! Surely just one weekend trip somewhere would set her up for life? Or are you only charged for secksi time?

EDIT: And it's not as if you can pretend she's your girlfriend, as to be able to afford her, you would have to be far, far older than 21.

Last edited by ghettoperson (2008-03-16 19:34:36)

JetSniper
R.I.P [EPIC]Pfcguinn
+113|6368
but it wouldn't be fun unless it was illegal
HurricaИe
Banned
+877|5992|Washington DC
I heard on Digg that the "actor" in porn can't be the one paying the "actress." The cameraman can, the porn site owner can, but the actor himself can't.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6632|132 and Bush

That's right.

Pornography involves the customer of an adult film paying money to watch other people have sex with each other, while receiving no sexual favors himself in return.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/08/12/colb. … index.html
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6436|North Carolina
Good points, but again...  why not legalize prostitution?  So far, I haven't seen anyone come up with a reason not to....
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6632|132 and Bush

Disclaimer:The opinions expressed in this post, unless stated otherwise, are the opinions of the Untied States government. The commentary listed below does not necessarily reflect the opinions of Kmarion, Kerry, or any of his other alter egos.

The case for making it against the law to buy sex begins with the premise that it's base and exploitative and demeaning to sex workers. Legalizing prostitution expands it, the argument goes, and also helps pimps, fails to protect women, and leads to more back-alley violence, not less. This fight over legalization has been waged in the last few years over international human-trafficking laws and proposals to make prostitution legal in countries like Bulgaria, a movement that the U.S. government helped defeat. In 2004, the federal government expressed its position: "The United States government takes a firm stance against proposals to legalize prostitution because prostitution directly contributes to the modern-day slave trade and is inherently demeaning." The government also claims that legalizing or tolerating prostitution creates "greater demand for human trafficking victims."
http://www.slate.com/id/2186243/pagenum/all/#page_start
TBH a strong case can be made both ways. That's why it is a recurring topic.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6436|North Carolina
But that argument fails to acknowledge that legalization would actually make human trafficking harder.  In other words, when a legitimate paper trail exists for prostitution, then trafficking must either find other industries to connect with or...  if it continues to interact with a legal prostitution industry, then it becomes much easier to trace.

In short, the government's argument fails on every level, but I guess that's to be expected.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6632|132 and Bush

Turquoise wrote:

But that argument fails to acknowledge that legalization would actually make human trafficking harder.  In other words, when a legitimate paper trail exists for prostitution, then trafficking must either find other industries to connect with or...  if it continues to interact with a legal prostitution industry, then it becomes much easier to trace.

In short, the government's argument fails on every level, but I guess that's to be expected.
Not necessarily. It depends on the regulations and requirements. It would certainly increase the demand for prostitution. Remember we have rules for legal immigration that go ignored. However the desire for cheap labor (cheap sex in this case) has increased the influx of illegal immigration. The idea that just making something legal does not solve problems. In short.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6436|North Carolina

Kmarion wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

But that argument fails to acknowledge that legalization would actually make human trafficking harder.  In other words, when a legitimate paper trail exists for prostitution, then trafficking must either find other industries to connect with or...  if it continues to interact with a legal prostitution industry, then it becomes much easier to trace.

In short, the government's argument fails on every level, but I guess that's to be expected.
Not necessarily. It depends on the regulations and requirements. It would certainly increase the demand for prostitution. Remember we have rules for legal immigration that go ignored. However the desire for cheap labor (cheap sex in this case) has increased the influx of illegal immigration. The idea that just making something legal does not solve problems. In short.
Let's say legalizing prostitution increases human trafficking.  If that happens but the system requires thorough proof of citizenship for what would amount to a hooker license, wouldn't that just mean that it would be easier to pinpoint who the illegals are?

EDIT: The government would periodically audit brothels for things like this, in other words.

Last edited by Turquoise (2008-03-16 21:04:14)

bugz
Fission Mailed
+3,311|6343

I don't know why the gov doesn't legalize it. I mean, they tax us to death on everything we have now. Hell, if they tax us on prostitution, the US will be out of debt in a couple years.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6632|132 and Bush

Turquoise wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

But that argument fails to acknowledge that legalization would actually make human trafficking harder.  In other words, when a legitimate paper trail exists for prostitution, then trafficking must either find other industries to connect with or...  if it continues to interact with a legal prostitution industry, then it becomes much easier to trace.

In short, the government's argument fails on every level, but I guess that's to be expected.
Not necessarily. It depends on the regulations and requirements. It would certainly increase the demand for prostitution. Remember we have rules for legal immigration that go ignored. However the desire for cheap labor (cheap sex in this case) has increased the influx of illegal immigration. The idea that just making something legal does not solve problems. In short.
Let's say legalizing prostitution increases human trafficking.  If that happens but the system requires thorough proof of citizenship for what would amount to a hooker license, wouldn't that just mean that it would be easier to pinpoint who the illegals are?

EDIT: The government would periodically audit brothels for things like this, in other words.
You really think there is a doubt that human trafficking would increase? With increased demand businesses have a history of looking for "cheap alternatives" (blood diamond much).

Once the Government legalizes it we are likely to have people going around the rules to meet the demands, like we do now in nearly every other profession. The idea sounds good in theory, but things rarely workout exactly as planned.

People subvert the process of practicing in legal occupations all the time. Operating without liquor licenses (no pun intended), practicing Real Estate without a license, illegal immigrants doing landscaping, etc..etc. Just take a trip down to your local Department of Business and Professional Regulation and look at all the cases.
Spoiler (highlight to read):
I work in a regulated industry.

Look I'm not saying overall it is a bad thing. There are probable positive outcomes as well. I'm just saying it's not nearly a cut and dry issue.

I think it's a decision for the local state to make though.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
DonFck
Hibernator
+3,227|6663|Finland

Finnish Wikipedia on Prostitution wrote:

Finnish legislation does not illegalize prostitution. A person practising prostitution is bound by law to keep books and pay taxes, but must remain a private entrepreneur. In other words, a prostitute can in Finland work perfectly legally as a tax paying practitioner.
Pimping, however is illegal.
I need around tree fiddy.

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