its considered rape
Exactly!! Plus we could get taxes from it too.Turquoise wrote:
Why not just legalize and regulate prostitution? Proper regulation would involve making sure that prostitutes get regular checkups and that they are forced out of the business if they catch an STD.
I already plus oned you today
But yeah its just like weed. Regulate it, the people get better quality stuff, and the gov't gets revenue from it. Everyone wins.
except for the criminal element. cant forget the criminals.
I'm hoping that some day the weed lobby will get stronger. I'll grow a shitload of the stuff, package it and as soon as it goes legal I'll be like the Marlboro of weed.Spearhead wrote:
Exactly!! Plus we could get taxes from it too.Turquoise wrote:
Why not just legalize and regulate prostitution? Proper regulation would involve making sure that prostitutes get regular checkups and that they are forced out of the business if they catch an STD.
I already plus oned you today
But yeah its just like weed. Regulate it, the people get better quality stuff, and the gov't gets revenue from it. Everyone wins.
Either that or invent harmless cigarettes. Whoever makes THAT will be a millionaire.
Maurijuana is to now as alcohol was to the 1920's. Just no ones realized it yet.
Um... well, under the current healthcare system, tax dollars are only going to the poorest people out there when it comes to healthcare.clogar wrote:
i don't want my tax dollars going to check ups for whores
Your concern would only apply if we have socialized healthcare, which is a valid concern -- but GS pretty much defused it.
Haven't you seen the movie "Lay It Forward"? j/kkripp wrote:
If you rape a hooker, is that considered stealing?
What's actually going on with that? Are they really going to get rid of it all? I haven't really heard much about it, just the occasional mention from mates who are still in Holland.^*AlphA*^ wrote:
Amsterdam Red Light District anyone?
they're braking a lot down there so... who knows how long we have!
You think the government would actually guarantee std-free prostitutes? They also said no new taxes.Turquoise wrote:
Why not just legalize and regulate prostitution? Proper regulation would involve making sure that prostitutes get regular checkups and that they are forced out of the business if they catch an STD. There is an area of Nevada that already does something like this, and so far, it's worked pretty well.
Good point, but... Isn't it better to address this issue with legalization and regulation rather than the current method of pretending that making it illegal somehow makes it disappear?Stingray24 wrote:
You think the government would actually guarantee std-free prostitutes? They also said no new taxes.Turquoise wrote:
Why not just legalize and regulate prostitution? Proper regulation would involve making sure that prostitutes get regular checkups and that they are forced out of the business if they catch an STD. There is an area of Nevada that already does something like this, and so far, it's worked pretty well.
To me, keeping prostitution illegal is just as futile as keeping pot that way. A lack of realism is much of the problem with our laws and society. If we'd only be more practical, many problems such as these would become a lot more manageable.
In other words, regulation like what I posted still improves the situation over the current one. Less STDs is still better than illegality in combination with a lot more STDs.
It is legal...
Name: Angelina Johansson
Age: 21
Weight: 54kg
Height: 5'9
Hair Colour : Brunette
Desciption: Elegant, refined and poised – Angelina has walked the catwalks from Milan to Moscow. With impeccable taste, impossibly long legs, and a sexy mane of brown hair – she is an ideal consort to men whose pleasure and pursuits take them to exotic locations, high level corporate events, and the best restaurants.
Rate: $2,000 / hr
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i think you might find that they have to payclogar wrote:
i don't want my tax dollars going to check ups for whores
eh....some people are that desperate, so i guess Aye.
At $2k an hour you can take her places?! Surely just one weekend trip somewhere would set her up for life? Or are you only charged for secksi time?DrunkFace wrote:
It is legal...http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2290/picmainfx8.jpg
Name: Angelina Johansson
Age: 21
Weight: 54kg
Height: 5'9
Hair Colour : Brunette
Desciption: Elegant, refined and poised – Angelina has walked the catwalks from Milan to Moscow. With impeccable taste, impossibly long legs, and a sexy mane of brown hair – she is an ideal consort to men whose pleasure and pursuits take them to exotic locations, high level corporate events, and the best restaurants.
Rate: $2,000 / hr
EDIT: And it's not as if you can pretend she's your girlfriend, as to be able to afford her, you would have to be far, far older than 21.
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but it wouldn't be fun unless it was illegal
I heard on Digg that the "actor" in porn can't be the one paying the "actress." The cameraman can, the porn site owner can, but the actor himself can't.
That's right.
Pornography involves the customer of an adult film paying money to watch other people have sex with each other, while receiving no sexual favors himself in return.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/08/12/colb. … index.html
Pornography involves the customer of an adult film paying money to watch other people have sex with each other, while receiving no sexual favors himself in return.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/08/12/colb. … index.html
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Good points, but again... why not legalize prostitution? So far, I haven't seen anyone come up with a reason not to....
Disclaimer:The opinions expressed in this post, unless stated otherwise, are the opinions of the Untied States government. The commentary listed below does not necessarily reflect the opinions of Kmarion, Kerry, or any of his other alter egos.
TBH a strong case can be made both ways. That's why it is a recurring topic.
http://www.slate.com/id/2186243/pagenum/all/#page_startThe case for making it against the law to buy sex begins with the premise that it's base and exploitative and demeaning to sex workers. Legalizing prostitution expands it, the argument goes, and also helps pimps, fails to protect women, and leads to more back-alley violence, not less. This fight over legalization has been waged in the last few years over international human-trafficking laws and proposals to make prostitution legal in countries like Bulgaria, a movement that the U.S. government helped defeat. In 2004, the federal government expressed its position: "The United States government takes a firm stance against proposals to legalize prostitution because prostitution directly contributes to the modern-day slave trade and is inherently demeaning." The government also claims that legalizing or tolerating prostitution creates "greater demand for human trafficking victims."
TBH a strong case can be made both ways. That's why it is a recurring topic.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
But that argument fails to acknowledge that legalization would actually make human trafficking harder. In other words, when a legitimate paper trail exists for prostitution, then trafficking must either find other industries to connect with or... if it continues to interact with a legal prostitution industry, then it becomes much easier to trace.
In short, the government's argument fails on every level, but I guess that's to be expected.
In short, the government's argument fails on every level, but I guess that's to be expected.
Not necessarily. It depends on the regulations and requirements. It would certainly increase the demand for prostitution. Remember we have rules for legal immigration that go ignored. However the desire for cheap labor (cheap sex in this case) has increased the influx of illegal immigration. The idea that just making something legal does not solve problems. In short.Turquoise wrote:
But that argument fails to acknowledge that legalization would actually make human trafficking harder. In other words, when a legitimate paper trail exists for prostitution, then trafficking must either find other industries to connect with or... if it continues to interact with a legal prostitution industry, then it becomes much easier to trace.
In short, the government's argument fails on every level, but I guess that's to be expected.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Let's say legalizing prostitution increases human trafficking. If that happens but the system requires thorough proof of citizenship for what would amount to a hooker license, wouldn't that just mean that it would be easier to pinpoint who the illegals are?Kmarion wrote:
Not necessarily. It depends on the regulations and requirements. It would certainly increase the demand for prostitution. Remember we have rules for legal immigration that go ignored. However the desire for cheap labor (cheap sex in this case) has increased the influx of illegal immigration. The idea that just making something legal does not solve problems. In short.Turquoise wrote:
But that argument fails to acknowledge that legalization would actually make human trafficking harder. In other words, when a legitimate paper trail exists for prostitution, then trafficking must either find other industries to connect with or... if it continues to interact with a legal prostitution industry, then it becomes much easier to trace.
In short, the government's argument fails on every level, but I guess that's to be expected.
EDIT: The government would periodically audit brothels for things like this, in other words.
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I don't know why the gov doesn't legalize it. I mean, they tax us to death on everything we have now. Hell, if they tax us on prostitution, the US will be out of debt in a couple years.
You really think there is a doubt that human trafficking would increase? With increased demand businesses have a history of looking for "cheap alternatives" (blood diamond much).Turquoise wrote:
Let's say legalizing prostitution increases human trafficking. If that happens but the system requires thorough proof of citizenship for what would amount to a hooker license, wouldn't that just mean that it would be easier to pinpoint who the illegals are?Kmarion wrote:
Not necessarily. It depends on the regulations and requirements. It would certainly increase the demand for prostitution. Remember we have rules for legal immigration that go ignored. However the desire for cheap labor (cheap sex in this case) has increased the influx of illegal immigration. The idea that just making something legal does not solve problems. In short.Turquoise wrote:
But that argument fails to acknowledge that legalization would actually make human trafficking harder. In other words, when a legitimate paper trail exists for prostitution, then trafficking must either find other industries to connect with or... if it continues to interact with a legal prostitution industry, then it becomes much easier to trace.
In short, the government's argument fails on every level, but I guess that's to be expected.
EDIT: The government would periodically audit brothels for things like this, in other words.
Once the Government legalizes it we are likely to have people going around the rules to meet the demands, like we do now in nearly every other profession. The idea sounds good in theory, but things rarely workout exactly as planned.
People subvert the process of practicing in legal occupations all the time. Operating without liquor licenses (no pun intended), practicing Real Estate without a license, illegal immigrants doing landscaping, etc..etc. Just take a trip down to your local Department of Business and Professional Regulation and look at all the cases.
Spoiler (highlight to read):
I work in a regulated industry.
Look I'm not saying overall it is a bad thing. There are probable positive outcomes as well. I'm just saying it's not nearly a cut and dry issue.
I think it's a decision for the local state to make though.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Pimping, however is illegal.Finnish Wikipedia on Prostitution wrote:
Finnish legislation does not illegalize prostitution. A person practising prostitution is bound by law to keep books and pay taxes, but must remain a private entrepreneur. In other words, a prostitute can in Finland work perfectly legally as a tax paying practitioner.
I need around tree fiddy.