Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6670|London, England
Why would the US release a report criticizing that, when they spend probably twice that amount.

Ok here we go:

USA: $623,000,000,000
China: $58,700,000,000 (59bn)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co … penditures

USA spends practically 10x more, and the population is like a quarter of China

And even the UK spends more than China

Last edited by Mek-Izzle (2008-03-04 02:58:21)

sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|6807|Argentina

Mek-Izzle wrote:

Why would the US release a report criticizing that, when they spend probably twice that amount.

Ok here we go:

USA: $623,000,000,000
China: $58,700,000,000 (59bn)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co … penditures

USA spends practically 10x more, and the population is like a quarter of China

And even the UK spends more than China
World Total 1,200bn.
TimmmmaaaaH
Damn, I... had something for this
+725|6489|Brisbane, Australia

imagine having a spare 1,200 billion to go towards developing 3rd world countries...
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sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|6807|Argentina
Venezuela only 4bn mmmm?
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6460|'Murka

US: 4.06% GDP
PRC: 4.3% GDP

Use figures that are comparable.
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sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|6807|Argentina

FEOS wrote:

US: 4.06% GDP
PRC: 4.3% GDP

Use figures that are comparable.
US             U$D 2,000 per capita
PRC           U$S 50 per capita
KuSTaV
noice
+947|6561|Gold Coast
Oh wow. I hope Cold War 2 doesnt start anytime soon (although I highly doubt it will).
But it is interesting...
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M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6272|Escea

KuSTaV wrote:

Oh wow. I hope Cold War 2 doesnt start anytime soon (although I highly doubt it will).
But it is interesting...
COLD WAR II: BIGGER, BADDER, AND SLIGHTLY CHILLIER
oug
Calmer than you are.
+380|6568|Πάϊ

Mek-Izzle wrote:

Why would the US release a report criticizing that, when they spend probably twice that amount.
Nobody appreciates the American sense of humor any more... lol
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B.Schuss
I'm back, baby... ( sort of )
+664|6890|Cologne, Germany

sergeriver wrote:

FEOS wrote:

US: 4.06% GDP
PRC: 4.3% GDP

Use figures that are comparable.
US             U$D 2,000 per capita
PRC           U$S 50 per capita
yay, stats penis comparison...

Seriously, as long as everyone here can draw up stats that support either point, why not leave stats out if this completely ?

I suggest we discuss implications, not numbers.

The question is, how is China going to spend that money ? On what systems, and for which purpose ?

From the article:

"China rejected the Pentagon report as a "serious distortion of facts" that could harm its relations with the US.

"It breaks international norms... We do not pose a threat to any country. The US should drop its Cold War mentality," the foreign ministry said in a statement."

hehe...
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|6693

B.Schuss wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

FEOS wrote:

US: 4.06% GDP
PRC: 4.3% GDP

Use figures that are comparable.
US             U$D 2,000 per capita
PRC           U$S 50 per capita
yay, stats penis comparison...

Seriously, as long as everyone here can draw up stats that support either point, why not leave stats out if this completely ?

I suggest we discuss implications, not numbers.

The question is, how is China going to spend that money ? On what systems, and for which purpose ?

From the article:

"China rejected the Pentagon report as a "serious distortion of facts" that could harm its relations with the US.

"It breaks international norms... We do not pose a threat to any country. The US should drop its Cold War mentality," the foreign ministry said in a statement."

hehe...
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globefish23
sophisticated slacker
+334|6373|Graz, Austria
Those statistical numbers remind me of the BF2 top ten leaderboard hacks:
Ridiculously exaggerated.
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|6693
Top spenders on defense, according to percent of GDP


1     North Korea     22.90     2003 est.
2     Oman     11.40     2005 est.
3     Qatar     10.00     2005 est.
4     Saudi Arabia     10.00     2005 est.
5     Iraq     8.60     2006
6     Jordan     8.60     2006
7     Israel     7.30     2006
8     Yemen     6.60     2006
9     Armenia     6.50     2001
10     Eritrea     6.30     2006 est.
11     Burundi     5.90     2006 est.
12     Syria     5.90     2005 est.
13     Angola     5.70     2006
14     Mauritania     5.50     2006
15     Maldives     5.50     2005 est.
jsnipy
...
+3,276|6572|...

Mek-Izzle wrote:

Why would the US release a report criticizing that, when they spend probably twice that amount.

Ok here we go:

USA: $623,000,000,000
China: $58,700,000,000 (59bn)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co … penditures

USA spends practically 10x more, and the population is like a quarter of China

And even the UK spends more than China
China probally gets way more out of what they spend
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6591|Texas - Bigger than France

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

Top spenders on defense, according to percent of GDP


1     North Korea     22.90     2003 est.
2     Oman     11.40     2005 est.
3     Qatar     10.00     2005 est.
4     Saudi Arabia     10.00     2005 est.
5     Iraq     8.60     2006
6     Jordan     8.60     2006
7     Israel     7.30     2006
8     Yemen     6.60     2006
9     Armenia     6.50     2001
10     Eritrea     6.30     2006 est.
11     Burundi     5.90     2006 est.
12     Syria     5.90     2005 est.
13     Angola     5.70     2006
14     Mauritania     5.50     2006
15     Maldives     5.50     2005 est.
Interesting group there if you look closely at the list.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6605
Gotta watch those Maldives...
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6650|132 and Bush

Mek-Izzle wrote:

Why would the US release a report criticizing that, when they spend probably twice that amount.
They both enjoy hypocrisy. It's kinda like when the Chinese were implicating we were only shooting down that satellite a couple weeks ago to "show off". Even though they did it last year without even warning anyone beforehand or sharing information after.
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Jepeto87
Member
+38|6734|Dublin
This thread should have been called China wants Taiwan! But alas Taiwan is real close to the biggest kid on the block. So the China men must think of a way to bypass this kid indirectly as at the moment they dont have his cash flow. That must be what the anti-satellite weapon is about. Modern armies are so relent on them for communications and fire support, getting rid of them may level the playing field somewhat.

Still you have to wonder what they hope to achieve while there being so out spent. Most real conflicts come down to cash at the end of the day.
Whats the saying go like:

"amatures study tactics, professionals study and leaders study economics" (Sorry butchered that!)

And China has'nt got the cash.

Last edited by Jepeto87 (2008-03-04 10:09:10)

RAIMIUS
You with the face!
+244|6764|US
They spend a lot more than their published military budget...not that they come close to the US's spending.  I doubt that their payroll is nearly as large as ours, which is where quite a bit of the US budget goes.
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6460|'Murka

RAIMIUS wrote:

They spend a lot more than their published military budget...not that they come close to the US's spending.  I doubt that their payroll is nearly as large as ours, which is where quite a bit of the US budget goes.
Payroll and retirement benefits. The majority of our budget is manpower expenses.
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fadedsteve
GOP Sympathizer
+266|6540|Menlo Park, CA
New Cold War = China. . . . .

We are at the beginning stages of what is about to be a VERY turbulent relationship. . . . .
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6587|Long Island, New York

fadedsteve wrote:

New Cold War = China. . . . .

We are at the beginning stages of what is about to be a VERY turbulent relationship. . . . .
And how long have people been saying that for?
fadedsteve
GOP Sympathizer
+266|6540|Menlo Park, CA

Poseidon wrote:

fadedsteve wrote:

New Cold War = China. . . . .

We are at the beginning stages of what is about to be a VERY turbulent relationship. . . . .
And how long have people been saying that for?
The media sure as hell hasnt classified the relationship as a cold war yet. . . . But I can tell you that China is in ACTIVE pursuit of trying to take us on economically and militarily.  They may have a couple billion folks but America when provoked is a nasty country to fuck with!!  Its only a matter of time till China deliberately steps on our toes. . . .
RoosterCantrell
Goodbye :)
+399|6529|Somewhere else

There is no more room hre on Earth.  IF nations would just evolve beyond paranoia and imperialism, maybe we could work TOGETHER with all that money, and as a global alliance, actually move beyond earth. 

In this era, this timeframe, it is technically possible to actually colonize other planets.  I don't understand why this isn't a HUGE HUGE issue.

We are squabbling over slivers of land here on earth.  Sure it's costly to get off this rock, but so is war and military spending.

Seriously, the human race needs to grow the fuck up.

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