If he means that then yeah, that would be great.Snake wrote:
Only on 16player, and only on certain maps that they have coded AI for (try and play Gator, or Leviathan).
Point steelie is making, is it would be nice to play the 32 & 64player maps against AI. Currently, if you want to dogfight you have OCS with the F15 and Su34. That is it.
Done it a few times with Gary/RD against like 50 bots, quite good fun actually.
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yes... my point exactly. imagine having only 5 or 6 people wanting to play a 64 clean sweep, so you join the server, and the rest of the slots are filled with AI bots. it would kick ass.Fat_Swinub wrote:
If he means that then yeah, that would be great.Snake wrote:
Only on 16player, and only on certain maps that they have coded AI for (try and play Gator, or Leviathan).
Point steelie is making, is it would be nice to play the 32 & 64player maps against AI. Currently, if you want to dogfight you have OCS with the F15 and Su34. That is it.
Done it a few times with Gary/RD against like 50 bots, quite good fun actually.
That would be sweet. It'd eliminate empty servers and wait times for a full game. Brilliant!steelie34 wrote:
yes... my point exactly. imagine having only 5 or 6 people wanting to play a 64 clean sweep, so you join the server, and the rest of the slots are filled with AI bots. it would kick ass.Fat_Swinub wrote:
If he means that then yeah, that would be great.Snake wrote:
Only on 16player, and only on certain maps that they have coded AI for (try and play Gator, or Leviathan).
Point steelie is making, is it would be nice to play the 32 & 64player maps against AI. Currently, if you want to dogfight you have OCS with the F15 and Su34. That is it.
Done it a few times with Gary/RD against like 50 bots, quite good fun actually.
yes! imagine bf2... no more complaining about your team sitting in the uncap. the bots would be constantly fighting for control of flags. and because they are bots, you could do some heroic shit like taking down 30 dudes rambo style to cap a flag. it would obviously be exploited by stat padders and such, but for those who play the way bf2 is intended, it would be epic.Cyrax-Sektor wrote:
That would be sweet. It'd eliminate empty servers and wait times for a full game. Brilliant!steelie34 wrote:
yes... my point exactly. imagine having only 5 or 6 people wanting to play a 64 clean sweep, so you join the server, and the rest of the slots are filled with AI bots. it would kick ass.Fat_Swinub wrote:
If he means that then yeah, that would be great.
It's like SP with mates! I always love chopper whoring infantry now in Dalian SP.steelie34 wrote:
yes! imagine bf2... no more complaining about your team sitting in the uncap. the bots would be constantly fighting for control of flags. and because they are bots, you could do some heroic shit like taking down 30 dudes rambo style to cap a flag. it would obviously be exploited by stat padders and such, but for those who play the way bf2 is intended, it would be epic.Cyrax-Sektor wrote:
That would be sweet. It'd eliminate empty servers and wait times for a full game. Brilliant!steelie34 wrote:
yes... my point exactly. imagine having only 5 or 6 people wanting to play a 64 clean sweep, so you join the server, and the rest of the slots are filled with AI bots. it would kick ass.
Lol, 180hours on the map and Ive never used them - but that is plain stupid.steelie34 wrote:
the igla by the UAV trailer in the mec uncap is behind a tree ffs. what good is that? there are way too many LMGs, not nearly enough tow missles.
Too many TOW's will ruin it, but most flags should have at least one: especially on the larger armour maps.
steelie34 wrote:
ever camp the tow missle on the hill shed in smoke screen?
Yeah, they both are very good, however, both are also very exposed. On top of the building by South village even more so. Thing is, a lot of TOW's in the game are restricted in view by the sandbag walls...but they offer (small) protection.Cyrax-Sektor wrote:
If you're EU and the MEC has North Village, that little TOW on the roof of that hut is mighty handy against tanks leaving their uncap and the Village center.
The uncaps on FuShe Pass are the worst in the game as they have several entrances, of which only 1 is guarded: by a single TOW. Add on the fact that they dont have any armour in them: makes them the worst bases to be getting raped in if you have no flags.
True true, a lot of the things people would like in BF3 is in PR already. But PR also has a lot of things that are not liked by wider audience. A game like PR could never be as profitable as BF2 or COD4 because its not as newbie friendly as them. PR has a steep learning curve and it requires a good squad and team and commander to be fun. It also has more rules than any other FPS I ever played. A lot of new players try it and give up pretty quickly because of those things.MirindoR wrote:
jeez i can't believe this... most of the things you say are present in project reality...
BF3 would have to be something in between BF2 and PR.
i get what you mean, and you're totally right, but after having played BF2 hundreds of hours i've become sick of hackers, sick of n00bs that go solo, sick of noob medics that walk over your body without giving a shit, sick of seeing someone getting hit with a 50 cal sniper rifle and running away. i prefer Pr because all this is fixed, there are no hackers, because the games aren't ranked, and because gameplay is totally different (how can you know i'm coming up at you if there is NO MINIMAP?) yes, i suppose Pr is distressing at the beginning, but after all an average Bf2 veteran can get over it quite easily and find that getting kills in PR is much more realistic and satisfing. right now there are an avereage of less than a couple hundred people that play it in the current servers, and i think a lot of servers could do with some filling.
if you've never tried it, install it and have a go, if you'll love it half as much as i do, you won't even think about BF3 for a long long time...
if you've never tried it, install it and have a go, if you'll love it half as much as i do, you won't even think about BF3 for a long long time...
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I definitely want the same powerful vehicles but I would like to see parts of the map be exclusive to infantry. There should be cliffs and steep valleys that limit the movement of armor and thick tree cover that gives infantry the ability to hide from helicopters.
An AT soldier should only carry one of two rockets, but be able to immobilize armor with one good hit. The driver of the tank shouldn't die in most cases, but the tank should become useless.
There should also be multi-level licensing for the use of jets and helicopters. People with the higher level of license (those who have passed the tougher tests) get priority over lower levels when it comes to getting in vehicles.
Map interactivity would also be cool. Like a spec ops soldier should be able to blow up dams and flood enemy bases.
An AT soldier should only carry one of two rockets, but be able to immobilize armor with one good hit. The driver of the tank shouldn't die in most cases, but the tank should become useless.
There should also be multi-level licensing for the use of jets and helicopters. People with the higher level of license (those who have passed the tougher tests) get priority over lower levels when it comes to getting in vehicles.
Map interactivity would also be cool. Like a spec ops soldier should be able to blow up dams and flood enemy bases.
well, apart from the impossible (multi-level licensing? good idea but kinda far-fetched, and flooding enemy bases... seriously...) its all in project reality.
Heck, maybe give the engineer a portable machine-gun emplacement to use (he can pack it up later), maybe have a limit per-team (to prevent spamming)?? Just a thought?
play tf2!BigOrangeArmy wrote:
Heck, maybe give the engineer a portable machine-gun emplacement to use (he can pack it up later), maybe have a limit per-team (to prevent spamming)?? Just a thought?
just bf2 again. all i want
1) Last used weapon switch.
2) Expansion to BF Vietnam character model customization.
3) Incorporations of aspects of past BF games, like parts of 1942 made it to VN in an official mod.
4) Awards judged by skill, not time.
5) Assuming it's modern, China vs MEC.
6) Bullet penetration and PhysX servers (8xxx will be able to use it) for building demolition; PhysX optional by default for non-intrusive special effects.
7) Ballistic stopping power.
8) Model collision detection (no more limbs through walls).
9) Also, deadly environment: i.e., treebursts and kicked up gravel.
2) Expansion to BF Vietnam character model customization.
3) Incorporations of aspects of past BF games, like parts of 1942 made it to VN in an official mod.
4) Awards judged by skill, not time.
5) Assuming it's modern, China vs MEC.
6) Bullet penetration and PhysX servers (8xxx will be able to use it) for building demolition; PhysX optional by default for non-intrusive special effects.
7) Ballistic stopping power.
8) Model collision detection (no more limbs through walls).
9) Also, deadly environment: i.e., treebursts and kicked up gravel.
again...not be like the console versions
*to guy above me, for the love of god no, legs going through walls can be good! Have you ever played CoD4? then you would know what im talking about...you go to duck but guess what; apparently your legs are stiffer than a 15 year old at cheer leading camp, and you cant duck! Why? oh, because of a rock on the ground...oops...
see what i mean?
*to guy above me, for the love of god no, legs going through walls can be good! Have you ever played CoD4? then you would know what im talking about...you go to duck but guess what; apparently your legs are stiffer than a 15 year old at cheer leading camp, and you cant duck! Why? oh, because of a rock on the ground...oops...
see what i mean?
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- Replace the F-35 with the F-22 for a fighting chance against the j-10
- Replace the Mig-29 with SU-27
- Replace MI-28 Havok with KA-50 Hokum
- Israel's military needs to be represented
- Replace Sea-hawk with V-22 Osprey
- New weopons(stinger unlock a must)
- A "Great" winter map is needed (Midnight Sun is a joke)
- Destructable enviornments(buildings and such)
- Need more Parachute drop Spawn Points
- Replace the Mig-29 with SU-27
- Replace MI-28 Havok with KA-50 Hokum
- Israel's military needs to be represented
- Replace Sea-hawk with V-22 Osprey
- New weopons(stinger unlock a must)
- A "Great" winter map is needed (Midnight Sun is a joke)
- Destructable enviornments(buildings and such)
- Need more Parachute drop Spawn Points
^
- Marines don't use the F-22 howler
- The Mig-29 is much more popular than the SU-27
- I believe ea and dice want to have 2 seaters
- I agree, having the Israeli army would be perfect for the game
- EA wants to have helicopters as transports, not airplanes that can vertical take and land
- I agree, portable AA weapons are a must, but make them work only on low firing aircraft to make it realistic
- Understandable
- Decent idea
- Marines don't use the F-22 howler
- The Mig-29 is much more popular than the SU-27
- I believe ea and dice want to have 2 seaters
- I agree, having the Israeli army would be perfect for the game
- EA wants to have helicopters as transports, not airplanes that can vertical take and land
- I agree, portable AA weapons are a must, but make them work only on low firing aircraft to make it realistic
- Understandable
- Decent idea
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
- No infinite heal and ammo bags;
5 medic packs and ammo packs per kit, if theyre all used, they will have to rely on commander supplies to refill, or take an enemy or friendly kit.
- No infinite Revives;
5 revives only, shock paddles with only 5 charges, when low, it will have to recharge on commander supplies, or take enemy or friendly kit. Also, not being able to revive a guy that just got blown to pieces by a tank shell, missile or arty !!!.
those two above will stop padding.
- Ranks and awards based on skills and general objectives, not like "playing the same map with the same kit 95% of the time..."
-bigger maps, more vehicles, more mayhem.
- Armor for ground troops, armor thickness reduced by getting shot at, but being able to "fix it" with commander supplies.
-Stop admins for kicking people based on their menstrual cycle, but kicked or banned by strict automatic server rules...
5 medic packs and ammo packs per kit, if theyre all used, they will have to rely on commander supplies to refill, or take an enemy or friendly kit.
- No infinite Revives;
5 revives only, shock paddles with only 5 charges, when low, it will have to recharge on commander supplies, or take enemy or friendly kit. Also, not being able to revive a guy that just got blown to pieces by a tank shell, missile or arty !!!.
those two above will stop padding.
- Ranks and awards based on skills and general objectives, not like "playing the same map with the same kit 95% of the time..."
-bigger maps, more vehicles, more mayhem.
- Armor for ground troops, armor thickness reduced by getting shot at, but being able to "fix it" with commander supplies.
-Stop admins for kicking people based on their menstrual cycle, but kicked or banned by strict automatic server rules...
Why not do it like in bf2142? That was perfect.Sgt. Sergio Bennet 3rd wrote:
- No infinite heal and ammo bags;
5 medic packs and ammo packs per kit, if theyre all used, they will have to rely on commander supplies to refill, or take an enemy or friendly kit.
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
^
True.
As I've said before, they made quite a few nice changes in BF2142 that I'm sure we'll see in BF3.
* Insta-prone shooters suffers massive deviation penalties = crouch and shoot instead
* No instant healing or resupplying = medics are slightly more human in shootouts
* Squad members who follow SL orders gets more points = more squad play = more team work.
True.
As I've said before, they made quite a few nice changes in BF2142 that I'm sure we'll see in BF3.
* Insta-prone shooters suffers massive deviation penalties = crouch and shoot instead
* No instant healing or resupplying = medics are slightly more human in shootouts
* Squad members who follow SL orders gets more points = more squad play = more team work.
I thought of another one: get rid of punkbuster. It is the biggest piece of horse shit of an anticheat system I have ever seen. People have aimbots and wallhacks and such yet it kicks people for "losing key packets" and "handshake failures".
By the way, what the hell is a "handshake failure" anyway? And what does is mean by "heartbeats stopped"? Get rid of this complete and utter failure and get something - anything - else.
(and if you can't tell, yes, I was just playing BF2 and yes, I was kick for one of those reasons)
By the way, what the hell is a "handshake failure" anyway? And what does is mean by "heartbeats stopped"? Get rid of this complete and utter failure and get something - anything - else.
(and if you can't tell, yes, I was just playing BF2 and yes, I was kick for one of those reasons)
Fixed.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
1) Last used weapon switch.
2) Expansion to BF Vietnam character model customization.
3) Incorporations of aspects of past BF games, like parts of 1942 made it to VN in an official mod.
4) Awards judged by skill, not time.
5) Assuming it's modern, China vs India.
6) Bullet penetration and PhysX servers (8xxx will be able to use it) for building demolition; PhysX optional by default for non-intrusive special effects.
7) Ballistic stopping power.
8) Model collision detection (no more limbs through walls).
9) Also, deadly environment: i.e., treebursts and kicked up gravel.
Are there any other anti-cheat programs? I don't get around the online games scene much, and don't much about anything else but PB. It has caught a few hackers in its time, but I mostly see people getting kicked for those reasons you mentioned.Sup3r_Dr4gon wrote:
I thought of another one: get rid of punkbuster. It is the biggest piece of horse shit of an anticheat system I have ever seen. People have aimbots and wallhacks and such yet it kicks people for "losing key packets" and "handshake failures".
By the way, what the hell is a "handshake failure" anyway? And what does is mean by "heartbeats stopped"? Get rid of this complete and utter failure and get something - anything - else.
(and if you can't tell, yes, I was just playing BF2 and yes, I was kick for one of those reasons)
Losing key packets, I think, means the person is lagging behind everyone else, either due to high ping, or poor computer performance. I saw these effects before being kicked for it once on HT.
Comming from Medal of Honor, there was a kick ass anti-cheat program they used.Cyrax-Sektor wrote:
Are there any other anti-cheat programs? I don't get around the online games scene much, and don't much about anything else but PB. It has caught a few hackers in its time, but I mostly see people getting kicked for those reasons you mentioned.
Basically, if you didn't have the exact files that you had when you installed the game (minus the patches of course) it showed what file was different in console for everyone to see and kicked you from the server. The instant our clan adopted this anti-cheat, I suddenly became better than everyone else who used to destroy me.
Anywho, If you wanted to mod your game (skins/blood/sound/whatever) you had to play in some other server. I'd love to force ranked servers to use something along these lines instead of Punk-Bust-em-if-we-feel-like-it.
Flying cars
Ok lets get to rlyty
not to much shadows so we can play wwith good grapchis
Ok lets get to rlyty
not to much shadows so we can play wwith good grapchis
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