BBC.Varegg wrote:
It's from youtube so it must be credible information
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stkhoplite wrote:
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I'm going to to the protest in york xD
The point is Europe is not selling out to Islam and the US is not selling out to Scientology either.David.P wrote:
Because people here in the US have the balls to stand up to it. Unlike in Europe where the few that do are given death threats and branded as racists.
There really is no difference in the way Islam and Scientology operate.
I might actually be able to make this one...max wrote:
stkhoplite wrote:
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I'm going to to the protest in york xD
although I changed my vid link to WBG
Riiiiiiiiiiight... And i'm a normal well adjusted member of society.sergeriver wrote:
The point is Europe is not selling out to Islam and the US is not selling out to Scientology either.David.P wrote:
Because people here in the US have the balls to stand up to it. Unlike in Europe where the few that do are given death threats and branded as racists.
There really is no difference in the way Islam and Scientology operate.
They have a good deal with the IRS, a lot of rich and famous people are members, I dunno about the influence of Islam in Europe being as important as Scientology in the US.Turquoise wrote:
Scientology certainly has an influence in America, but there are far fewer Scientologists in America than there are Muslims in Europe.
Scientology's influence is more corporate (which admittedly is very sinister in its own right).sergeriver wrote:
They have a good deal with the IRS, a lot of rich and famous people are members, I dunno about the influence of Islam in Europe being as important as Scientology in the US.Turquoise wrote:
Scientology certainly has an influence in America, but there are far fewer Scientologists in America than there are Muslims in Europe.
Well, ultraconservatives are the problem. Period. It doesn't matter what Religion you are talking about, extremists are nutjobs, and you'll find those in every Religion. What is very wrong is to say that the whole Europe is selling out to Islam, or that the UK is appeasing Muslims, etc.Turquoise wrote:
Scientology's influence is more corporate (which admittedly is very sinister in its own right).sergeriver wrote:
They have a good deal with the IRS, a lot of rich and famous people are members, I dunno about the influence of Islam in Europe being as important as Scientology in the US.Turquoise wrote:
Scientology certainly has an influence in America, but there are far fewer Scientologists in America than there are Muslims in Europe.
Islam's influence in Europe is more... social. The average Muslim seems like a normal, decent person. The ones that bother me are the ultraconservatives. Those are the ones that seem to influence things like the freedom of speech in much of Europe.
Granted, Denmark has the balls to say, "Fuck off" to them. I'm proud of them....
Agreed... I just think the U.K. needs to end all Sharia courts. No country without a Muslim majority should have Sharia courts. Now, if a Muslim-majority nation wants one, that's ok.sergeriver wrote:
Well, ultraconservatives are the problem. Period. It doesn't matter what Religion you are talking about, extremists are nutjobs, and you'll find those in every Religion. What is very wrong is to say that the whole Europe is selling out to Islam, or that the UK is appeasing Muslims, etc.Turquoise wrote:
Scientology's influence is more corporate (which admittedly is very sinister in its own right).sergeriver wrote:
They have a good deal with the IRS, a lot of rich and famous people are members, I dunno about the influence of Islam in Europe being as important as Scientology in the US.
Islam's influence in Europe is more... social. The average Muslim seems like a normal, decent person. The ones that bother me are the ultraconservatives. Those are the ones that seem to influence things like the freedom of speech in much of Europe.
Granted, Denmark has the balls to say, "Fuck off" to them. I'm proud of them....
You have them too you know.Turquoise wrote:
Agreed... I just think the U.K. needs to end all Sharia courts. No country without a Muslim majority should have Sharia courts. Now, if a Muslim-majority nation wants one, that's ok.sergeriver wrote:
Well, ultraconservatives are the problem. Period. It doesn't matter what Religion you are talking about, extremists are nutjobs, and you'll find those in every Religion. What is very wrong is to say that the whole Europe is selling out to Islam, or that the UK is appeasing Muslims, etc.Turquoise wrote:
Scientology's influence is more corporate (which admittedly is very sinister in its own right).
Islam's influence in Europe is more... social. The average Muslim seems like a normal, decent person. The ones that bother me are the ultraconservatives. Those are the ones that seem to influence things like the freedom of speech in much of Europe.
Granted, Denmark has the balls to say, "Fuck off" to them. I'm proud of them....
The US has Sharia courts? Proof?TheEternalPessimist wrote:
You have them too you know.Turquoise wrote:
Agreed... I just think the U.K. needs to end all Sharia courts. No country without a Muslim majority should have Sharia courts. Now, if a Muslim-majority nation wants one, that's ok.sergeriver wrote:
Well, ultraconservatives are the problem. Period. It doesn't matter what Religion you are talking about, extremists are nutjobs, and you'll find those in every Religion. What is very wrong is to say that the whole Europe is selling out to Islam, or that the UK is appeasing Muslims, etc.
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Thanks for the link. That's pretty scary...TheEternalPessimist wrote:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.islam/browse_thread/thread/43b908906d841f28/817c956b3b0542ee?lnk=raot
Texas of all places.
EDIT: That was just a quick google, feel free to looks for something a bit more substantial, I'm going to bed as I'm shattered.
Only the rich can afford Scientology.sergeriver wrote:
Tell me again how Scientology is not significantly influencing the US. I mean my God, even the rich are selling out to Scientology.