Christianity = Egyptian Religion + Astrology + Ancient Myths?
Myths of Religion:
1. Its a good thing/helpful
2. See above
1. Its a good thing/helpful
2. See above
The internet says so, must be true.sergeriver wrote:
Christianity = Egyptian Religion + Astrology + Ancient Myths?
dont forget that thing called communion...came from the celtic ritual called "cakes and ale"
Religion = win.
The English language adopted stuff from other languages, does that make it a myth as well?
religion could be looked at differently because of the faith aspect. it doesnt take faith to know that a language is thereDoctaStrangelove wrote:
The English language adopted stuff from other languages, does that make it a myth as well?
Yes, many of the Christian traditions came from other religions/cultures, but the message and ideology of Christianity is its own. (Technically is a continuation of the Jewish tradition, with those who believe it believing that Jesus was the Jewish Messiah, but that's beside the point)
A few "Christian" traditions that came from elsewhere:
The date of Christmas, actually was a date used by the Romans to celebrate one of their gods (I think it was Isis, but I'm not too sure). For the Romans it was just convenient to switch what was being celebrated that day than to create a new holiday. If you follow the descriptions in the Bible, the true date of Christmas should be sometime in the Spring, around March or April.
Celebrating mass on Sunday. Again it was more convenient for the Romans, and it separated Christianity from it's Jewish origins.
The Christmas Tree. Drawn from the pagan tradition of the yule(sp?) log.
These are just a few, but there are many, many more.
A few "Christian" traditions that came from elsewhere:
The date of Christmas, actually was a date used by the Romans to celebrate one of their gods (I think it was Isis, but I'm not too sure). For the Romans it was just convenient to switch what was being celebrated that day than to create a new holiday. If you follow the descriptions in the Bible, the true date of Christmas should be sometime in the Spring, around March or April.
Celebrating mass on Sunday. Again it was more convenient for the Romans, and it separated Christianity from it's Jewish origins.
The Christmas Tree. Drawn from the pagan tradition of the yule(sp?) log.
These are just a few, but there are many, many more.
Religion= a collection of morals where people need to be told what is right and what is wrong
no it came from the passover meal, that Jesus celebrated. This was called The Last Supper. The ideas in communion came from John chapter 6.Schwarzelungen wrote:
dont forget that thing called communion...came from the celtic ritual called "cakes and ale"
whats your point?mcgid1 wrote:
Yes, many of the Christian traditions came from other religions/cultures, but the message and ideology of Christianity is its own. (Technically is a continuation of the Jewish tradition, with those who believe it believing that Jesus was the Jewish Messiah, but that's beside the point)
A few "Christian" traditions that came from elsewhere:
The date of Christmas, actually was a date used by the Romans to celebrate one of their gods (I think it was Isis, but I'm not too sure). For the Romans it was just convenient to switch what was being celebrated that day than to create a new holiday. If you follow the descriptions in the Bible, the true date of Christmas should be sometime in the Spring, around March or April.
Celebrating mass on Sunday. Again it was more convenient for the Romans, and it separated Christianity from it's Jewish origins.
The Christmas Tree. Drawn from the pagan tradition of the yule(sp?) log.
These are just a few, but there are many, many more.
That was interesting... I'm not going to blindly follow it, but it brings up some good points :p
-konfusion
-konfusion
Ahh this is old
The whole video of it is called Zeit Geist
The zeit geist video is on google with 3 parts
1.Religion
2. (god forbid) Another 9/11 conspiricy theory.
3. Our economy and how the bankers are in control
The whole video of it is called Zeit Geist
The zeit geist video is on google with 3 parts
1.Religion
2. (god forbid) Another 9/11 conspiricy theory.
3. Our economy and how the bankers are in control
Last edited by trackstarr (2008-02-07 18:11:26)
right, i see what you are saying and do remember reading it (raised in the church) im also saying that the early celtic pagans did something very similar. im just getting at the point of there being many things that a lot of religions do the same.clogar wrote:
no it came from the passover meal, that Jesus celebrated. This was called The Last Supper. The ideas in communion came from John chapter 6.Schwarzelungen wrote:
dont forget that thing called communion...came from the celtic ritual called "cakes and ale"
Actually Sting, you should pick up a book called The Hiram Key.Stingray24 wrote:
The internet says so, must be true.sergeriver wrote:
Christianity = Egyptian Religion + Astrology + Ancient Myths?
http://www.google.com/search?q=The+Hira … =firefox-a
I'd love it if you read it with a open mind and then we had a conversation.
Christianity is the modern age mythology.
you can clearly see it in the catholic church they have and use all kind of symbols
you can clearly see it in the catholic church they have and use all kind of symbols
I remember hearing somewhere that the reason why Dec 25 was picked was because the Pope (or whoever) wanted to have a holiday in December. And part of that was people weren't really too sure of when Jesus was born, so the Pope chose December for that reason. If true, this means the entire first video is incorrect. However, it doesn't support his existance either.
Anyhow, it is common for religions to share similarities, as if there are similarities then there will be more converts. For example, I might be mixing up the cultures, but the conquistadors sometimes built churches on top of the Aztecs/Mayan temples, and the Aztecs/Mayans had built theirs on top of the previous cultures'...whatever that was.
The other one is about Lent, which just started yesterday on Ash Wednesday. It is proceeded by Mardi Gras, which is the kickoff of a pagan ritual (called something besides Mardi Gras of course). The pagans used to choose a sacrifice by baking a copper coin into a cake (aka the "King Cake" which has the plastic baby in it now). Whomever got the piece with the copper coin would be treated to whatever their heart desired (aka treated like a "King") for 40 days and then sacrificed. So along comes Christianity, and the festival is tamed down so that instead of a 40 day party, there would be people dressed up all weird on horseback, going from town to town throwing out gifts and candy (aka the Mardi Gras parades).
Anyhow, something like that.
Anyhow, it is common for religions to share similarities, as if there are similarities then there will be more converts. For example, I might be mixing up the cultures, but the conquistadors sometimes built churches on top of the Aztecs/Mayan temples, and the Aztecs/Mayans had built theirs on top of the previous cultures'...whatever that was.
The other one is about Lent, which just started yesterday on Ash Wednesday. It is proceeded by Mardi Gras, which is the kickoff of a pagan ritual (called something besides Mardi Gras of course). The pagans used to choose a sacrifice by baking a copper coin into a cake (aka the "King Cake" which has the plastic baby in it now). Whomever got the piece with the copper coin would be treated to whatever their heart desired (aka treated like a "King") for 40 days and then sacrificed. So along comes Christianity, and the festival is tamed down so that instead of a 40 day party, there would be people dressed up all weird on horseback, going from town to town throwing out gifts and candy (aka the Mardi Gras parades).
Anyhow, something like that.
Oh, and forgot to say about Mardi Gras - I also am not sure if it was the pagans or the Christians who first yelled "Show me your Boobs"
Last edited by Pug (2008-02-07 18:23:24)
probably the pagans. sex was viewed as a form of enlightenment. hahaPug wrote:
Oh, and forgot to say about Mardi Gras - I also am not sure if it was the pagans or the Christians who first yelled "Show me your Boobs"
"Zeitgeist" really knocks religion out.
Basically Christianity must be fake simply because it assimilated other traditions into its own? The start of Christianity can be traced to 30~50 AD, most of the other traditions that are mentioned come much later. Christianity was a malleable religion and so these traditions came into it. Doesn't prove or disprove anything.
Christianity has a lot of pagan elements to it...it's what made it so adaptable to different cultures. It's a unique religion, and that's part of the beauty of it. Christianity is not an ethnicity like Judaism or Islam. It's a conviction. It's about a truth that transcends culture, which is why it has been so widely accepted across the Continents, and throughout the centuries.
The point is that yes, they do take things from other religions, but the central message of Christianity is it's own message, not those of another religion.clogar wrote:
whats your point?mcgid1 wrote:
Yes, many of the Christian traditions came from other religions/cultures, but the message and ideology of Christianity is its own. (Technically is a continuation of the Jewish tradition, with those who believe it believing that Jesus was the Jewish Messiah, but that's beside the point)
A few "Christian" traditions that came from elsewhere:
The date of Christmas, actually was a date used by the Romans to celebrate one of their gods (I think it was Isis, but I'm not too sure). For the Romans it was just convenient to switch what was being celebrated that day than to create a new holiday. If you follow the descriptions in the Bible, the true date of Christmas should be sometime in the Spring, around March or April.
Celebrating mass on Sunday. Again it was more convenient for the Romans, and it separated Christianity from it's Jewish origins.
The Christmas Tree. Drawn from the pagan tradition of the yule(sp?) log.
These are just a few, but there are many, many more.
Jesus was most likely born sometime around april 17th 6 B.C. - at least thats when the 3 magi saw the star that led them to him. The star was in the area of the sky for israel and it was the alignment of the two planets that symbolized a new a king for them.Pug wrote:
I remember hearing somewhere that the reason why Dec 25 was picked was because the Pope (or whoever) wanted to have a holiday in December. And part of that was people weren't really too sure of when Jesus was born, so the Pope chose December for that reason. If true, this means the entire first video is incorrect. However, it doesn't support his existance either.