Sgt.Gh0st
Pump-Action Pimp
+16|7027|The Hague, Holland
I just bought Half Life2 and CS: Source. All the FPS fans I know say that you cant be a FPS player if you never have played CS so thats pretty much the reason why I bought it.
Im installing it as we speak. So anyways, are any of you old CS veterans? Can any1 tell me if its any good ?
Would somebody might take me for a test ride, tell me what the good weapons are?
Can some1 share his 1337 micro with the Buy screen with me ?

Any help is appreciated,

Thank you kindly
Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|6937
b34 is all I have to say (when your CT)
Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|6937
oh yeah and you can't 'spray' in that game. You HAVE to shoot in bursts or else you WILL be completley inacurate.
Fo_Shizzle
Member
+0|6951
lol
isnt that the m4? or is it the steyr?lol

anyways, i think i kinda am a CS veteran, playing for about 5-6 yrs now, and yeh, i think its nice practise for bf2, insome ways, i will say 1 thing, CS 1.6 (the original) and CS:S are different in their own ways and its hell easier to kill people on CS:S, its also a bit more tactical, you also do alot more damage to ur enemies with any gun than you do in Bf2, its based on a 100 Hp thing, e.g.you get shot with an AWP (main sniper rifle) you will die with 1 shot if you are standing still, or walking etc.etc.etc.

but one thing that will be annoying are the hitboxes (they are invisible boxes that surround the player, and will take the damage count when you are hit, just in case if u didnt know that) , they tend to "travel" if i can say, slightly slower than the player (hit boxes follow the players movement, and they might be a bit slow at times) so sometimes if you are spectating other players with a gun like the AWP, as they shoot, they shoot about 3-4 cm away from the target, but still hit the thing........anyway, you needa play a bit to understand that crap.................

note: when you see a little "VAC" badge on loading screens, dont worry about it if your going to cheat/hack, the stupid valve anti cheats system is absolutely useless, it cant detect a hack for crap.........lol , hope that helped
Sgt.Gh0st
Pump-Action Pimp
+16|7027|The Hague, Holland
So what are the best weapons to buy when your CT or T? I just played a few matches on De_Dust2 with bots.
Got my ass handed to me the first few rounds, this is defitenly Not BF2 .
And do people actually buy the helmet? It came to my attention I can still shoot thru doors ^^.
Teckademics
Member
+1|6970|Savannah GA
You sir should im me on aim. there for i wan pwn you with my aug skillzorz

assassin7420

Enjoy.

Last edited by Teckademics (2006-01-02 08:42:47)

Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|6937
best guns:
SMG: MP5 - Most balanced SMG
Rifle: M4/AK47 - Most balanced Rifles
STRONGEST pistol: IMI Desert Eagle .50 AE
Easiest kill: AWP
BTW head shots are always 1 hit kills with any guns (unlike BF2)
wooly-back-jack
Jihaaaaaad!!!
+84|6985|England
since when was 1.6 the origional? lol
I started when it was only just patched to 1.3 and that wasn't even the origional.
btw I dont play the dead-game anymore, its full of annoying script-kiddies who throw "n00b" insults about like they are something special.
I like a bit of rough terrain and variation now, not flat boring maps and doing the same thing every round.
Sgt.Gh0st
Pump-Action Pimp
+16|7027|The Hague, Holland

Superior Mind wrote:

best guns:
SMG: MP5 - Most balanced SMG
Rifle: M4/AK47 - Most balanced Rifles
STRONGEST pistol: IMI Desert Eagle .50 AE
Easiest kill: AWP
BTW head shots are always 1 hit kills with any guns (unlike BF2)
Now this is usefull .
The AWP is a sniper rifle right? If anybody would like to teach me the secret art of CS please add me on xfire :
sgtgh0st.
wooly-back-jack
Jihaaaaaad!!!
+84|6985|England
Scout + p228 > AWP + Deagle
polarbearz
Raiders of the Lost Bear
+-1,474|7034|Singapore

Please. AWP > Every other weapon.

Played since the first CS never stopped using it since. And hell I miss the REAL bunny hopping on CS.
Sgt.Gh0st
Pump-Action Pimp
+16|7027|The Hague, Holland
Can somebody please tell me what weapon the AWP is ?
Paladus902
The Last Man Standing
+1|7031
Its the very big green sniper rifle in the rifle section, and its one heck of a gun.  Learn to love and hate that sound because when you get hit by it you never usually see it coming.
B.Schuss
I'm back, baby... ( sort of )
+664|7086|Cologne, Germany

there are two bolt-action sniper rifles in CS, the AWP ( Magnum Sniper Rifle ) and the Schmidt / Steyr Scout.

the awp will be almost one-shot-one-kill, while the scout does less damage. the awp is a bit more difficult to handle though, and it is also expensive.

I have been playing CS since 1.0 came out ( missed the betas ), but stopped when BF2 came out...

haven't played any CS since june, I believe
Sgt.Gh0st
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+16|7027|The Hague, Holland

B.Schuss wrote:

there are two bolt-action sniper rifles in CS, the AWP ( Magnum Sniper Rifle ) and the Schmidt / Steyr Scout.

the awp will be almost one-shot-one-kill, while the scout does less damage. the awp is a bit more difficult to handle though, and it is also expensive.

I have been playing CS since 1.0 came out ( missed the betas ), but stopped when BF2 came out...

haven't played any CS since june, I believe
Aah so its the Magnum Sniper Rifle, gonna look for that one.
Do you pro's have any advice on weapons I should avoid?

Man I hate being a n00b
supa_fly52
Save a Mouse, Eat a Pussy
+8|7000|Gold Coast, Australia
Best Pistol for when your low on money is the deagle
Best Rifle for when your low on money either AK-47 (t) or M4A1 (ct)
Best Sniper Rifle AWP (too easy to kill with, 1 shot kill)

Worst Weapons
Submachine guns - Mac 10 (t) TMP (ct)
Pistol - P228
Rifle - none (only if you know how to use it, just  aim and shoot)
Shotgun - Auto is weaker but faster, M3 is slower but much stronger.

And BTW after you finish installing, may you have fun through the at least 2 hours of updating to go.
And WHAT THE F*** IS WITH THAT GIF???
Sgt.Gh0st
Pump-Action Pimp
+16|7027|The Hague, Holland

supa_fly52 wrote:

Best Pistol for when your low on money is the deagle
Best Rifle for when your low on money either AK-47 (t) or M4A1 (ct)
Best Sniper Rifle AWP (too easy to kill with, 1 shot kill)

Worst Weapons
Submachine guns - Mac 10 (t) TMP (ct)
Pistol - P228
Rifle - none (only if you know how to use it, just  aim and shoot)
Shotgun - Auto is weaker but faster, M3 is slower but much stronger.

And BTW after you finish installing, may you have fun through the at least 2 hours of updating to go.
And WHAT THE F*** IS WITH THAT GIF???
Thank you very much I found the AK-47 and the M4A1 very helpfull.
The updating just wouldnt stop but I could wait it thru.
The very first server I joined I couldnt move and neither could my teammates.
They were all bitching about hacks and wouldnt start the game before the hacker would leave the server or whatever.
My second server whas a lot better, the AWP whas forbidden tho.
It sure is diffrent..
supa_fly52
Save a Mouse, Eat a Pussy
+8|7000|Gold Coast, Australia

Sgt.Gh0st wrote:

supa_fly52 wrote:

Best Pistol for when your low on money is the deagle
Best Rifle for when your low on money either AK-47 (t) or M4A1 (ct)
Best Sniper Rifle AWP (too easy to kill with, 1 shot kill)

Worst Weapons
Submachine guns - Mac 10 (t) TMP (ct)
Pistol - P228
Rifle - none (only if you know how to use it, just  aim and shoot)
Shotgun - Auto is weaker but faster, M3 is slower but much stronger.

And BTW after you finish installing, may you have fun through the at least 2 hours of updating to go.
And WHAT THE F*** IS WITH THAT GIF???
Thank you very much I found the AK-47 and the M4A1 very helpfull.
The updating just wouldnt stop but I could wait it thru.
The very first server I joined I couldnt move and neither could my teammates.
They were all bitching about hacks and wouldnt start the game before the hacker would leave the server or whatever.
My second server whas a lot better, the AWP whas forbidden tho.
It sure is diffrent..
no prob.
IF you see a counter Strike Source Deathmatch server, JOIN JOIN JOIN
You choose what weapons you want, they are free and no waiting when you die cuz you just respawn.
Now i feel like playing.

And another tip:
The map OFFICE is good for going kamakaze with AK-47 or a pistol.
I remember yesterday i went kamakaze with the glock and ran into 3 CTs in one spot, so it head shot the 1st guy while running up to them, he luckily had an AUTO-SHOTTY, and i picked it up without intending to, and owned the other 2 with only 73 health left, i ended up getting sniped.
TC><Injecter
Member
+4|7073|Berlin, Germany
BTW You said you bought HL2 so you dont have 1.6.... and CSS is way different!

ITS EASIER!!!!!!

If you train the aim with the AK it will be your best friend. Helmet isnt really important... M4 is less powerful with the silencer but easier to aim. I added you on Xfire (german Message or somthing i think) so we can train together because i havent played CSS since I got BF2 (thats long ago xD) and am just DLing it with Steam again... So I can get my dedicated Server running and then play a bit lol....

So... HAVE FUN

Greetz

EDIT: And ya... What is the gif about?!

Last edited by TC><Injecter (2006-01-02 16:11:48)

pizzadudec
Member
+0|6935
CS vet for 9+ years now. Been playing since beta of the original CS and Supa Fly is a moron.

supa_fly52 wrote:

Worst Weapons
Submachine guns - Mac 10 (t) TMP (ct)
Pistol - P228
Rifle - none (only if you know how to use it, just  aim and shoot)
Shotgun - Auto is weaker but faster, M3 is slower but much stronger.

The Mac 10 and TMP are good on close combat maps like office because of the fast firing rate, just aim for their face. Same goes for the shotgun. Like the subs just aim for the face. The Sig p228 is a great gun Supa just dosent know how to use it. As far as the sniper rifles go, they all work great. The scout will need 2 body hits to kill someone unless you hit them in the head.

There is no best weapon in the game, you just have to get used to how they all work. The galil or IF Defender as its called in the menu works great in 1-2 round bursts and I use it a lot, just aim for the face.
Teckademics
Member
+1|6970|Savannah GA
LIES the tmp owns when your low on cash pick that and aim for the head. that is the headshot machine. - or the paintball gun you pick noob guns hurm SHIELD auto shotty  and para. Both auto snipers... duals suck. mac 10 ump suck. i love the aug and 5-7 that combo works ok bur for snipe. scout learn with that then move to awp  rifle well it depends on map - team i like the sig or aug i got bored with teh m4... the famas is ok.. 3 round burst is really good just learn to aim for the head. and KNEEEEEFFF supar fun

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/teckademics7420/cs_office0030.jpg

and that is what happens when i go in a sever with nubs. EW what the fuck did photobucket do to that .
supa_fly52
Save a Mouse, Eat a Pussy
+8|7000|Gold Coast, Australia

pizzadudec wrote:

CS vet for 9+ years now. Been playing since beta of the original CS and Supa Fly is a moron.

supa_fly52 wrote:

Worst Weapons
Submachine guns - Mac 10 (t) TMP (ct)
Pistol - P228
Rifle - none (only if you know how to use it, just  aim and shoot)
Shotgun - Auto is weaker but faster, M3 is slower but much stronger.

The Mac 10 and TMP are good on close combat maps like office because of the fast firing rate, just aim for their face. Same goes for the shotgun. Like the subs just aim for the face. The Sig p228 is a great gun Supa just dosent know how to use it. As far as the sniper rifles go, they all work great. The scout will need 2 body hits to kill someone unless you hit them in the head.

There is no best weapon in the game, you just have to get used to how they all work. The galil or IF Defender as its called in the menu works great in 1-2 round bursts and I use it a lot, just aim for the face.
meh, im just saying what gets me tons of kills, i didnt say those guns were crap, i just basically said that the other ones were better (its different). pistols are my headshot guns. and the p228, is kindof good but its easier to kill with any other pistol cuz they are stronger.
B.Schuss
I'm back, baby... ( sort of )
+664|7086|Cologne, Germany

opinions will vary, especially when it comes to CS.

if I am low on cash, I usually by a deagle only, maybe a vest if possible. that's your best chance to stand a fight with opponents who have M4's or AK's, especially at greater distance. If your amining is good, you can pick out one or two enemies before you get killed.

The MP5 is great in close combat because it will stay fairly accurate even if you move while firing. But it doesn't pack a big punch, and so you are mostly fucked when facing M4's or AK's. It is also useless on long distances. That is why, on maps like de_dust2, I will rather buy a deagle and vest instead of the MP5, when I am low on cash.

My basic rule when buying: when you cannot afford a full AK/M4 set with helm/vest and all grens, you are better off not buying anything at all ( eco round ) or just buying a deagle ( semi-eco ). Buying an MP5 without vest and helm or grens usually won't do the trick.
To me, deagle with vest will beat out MP5 without vest anytime. Aiming is the key here, of course.

And btw, on public servers teammates will be dieing anyway and you can pick up their stuff. Just stay close to a group and pick up the first kit.

So I mostly play deagle/M4/AK/AWP. those are arguably the best weapons in the game. Most pG's won't play anything else, even if they are decked out with cash.
Fo_Shizzle
Member
+0|6951
OK HERE IS THE GUIDE FOR A NOOB IN CS OR CS:S

RIFLES:
Best for CT is either the M16 (or M4 i forget) or the AUG
Best for T is Defender or AK-47

SNIPER RIFLES:
AWP or Scout, scout tends to be more accurate at longer distances, but awp is most effective for easy kills (note: once you learn the art of quick switching [aim your AWP, fire, press "q" twice] it kinda helps you to view you enemies better) and if you have a VERY responsive mouse, you can become a very good sniper.

As for semi-auto snipers, they are good for close-medium range kills (crouch for best effect, 2 shots to the upper-chest area should do the trick if you are accurate) also, if you are have zoomed in already, WALKING (not running, but hold shift to walk in CS) while aiming at a certain area also helps, sometime if you are suddenly confronted by an enemy.

ALWAYS REMEMBER WITH RIFLES: THEY ARE ABLE TO PENETRATE WALLS, so if you are suspecting an enemy hiding behind a box, shoot at it a couple of times, you might hit something!

Other guns:
Deagle (only if you have a decent aim, in my case, not very good aim, so i dont use it much) is effective.

Pump Shotgun (B-2-2 is the buy hotkeys) can help, and in some ways better than the auto-shotgun, it limits your ammo, so you dont waste all of it at once, and i think its slightly more powerful to the auto.

Flashbang: after you have been flashed in CS:S dont expect to live very long, unless you have a quick way out the situation. i find that the flash impact is much more devastating in CS:S than in CS, and people actually use it much more in CS:S rather than CS.

Frag Grenade: the one thing i hate about them is that they never to enough damage, but if you are lucky that some teammate has damaged an enemy, then you can try and kill the damaged enemy with your grenade rather than risk rushing at then instead to be killed rather then to kill.

Vest & Helmet: always try and but a helmet if you have the money, if not at least have a vest, if not that have a primary weapon (a decent rifle or SMG will do, even with out a vest). i would much rather by a rifle with a bit of ammo with no vest rather than a vest with a crap handgun with tons of useless ammo (due to the fact that if you auto-buy with little money, it will get the worst selection for you, but you never know, it may work out for you, other wise, if your short on money, save it for a next round or buy a decent gun that you know you can kill 2 or 3 people with.

hope that helped for now (thats just basics....)
Sgt.Gh0st
Pump-Action Pimp
+16|7027|The Hague, Holland
Wauw I appreciate all your help Thanks for all the usefull tips.
About the n00b guide, well, I pretty much am a n00b now right .
TC><Injecter I accepted you on xfire, maybe we could a game sometime.
My K: D ratio totally sucked on the first few matches 2-11 lol .
But it proceeded to get better (6-4).
And a question about those hand grenades. Why does EVERYBODY buy them?
At the first rush to the nereast choke point 5 to 7 teammembers allways throw those grenades without killing some1. Is it a an old custom to throw those darned things ?
I cant really see their effectiveness.


EDIT :
As for the gif.
Its a small fragment of a old Dutch Happy-Hardcore clip.
("I whant to be a hippy and I whant to get stoned! Marijuahna!"-Cant remember author)

Last edited by Sgt.Gh0st (2006-01-03 06:36:11)

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