Bell Labs developed those...I thought, anyway11 Bravo wrote:
well im sure someone would have figured out cell phones or whatever
rockets arent exclusive to nasaKmar wrote:
Really? How about GPS? Got a plan for getting them up there?
The development of putting things into low earth orbit is exclusive to space programs.11 Bravo wrote:
rockets arent exclusive to nasaKmar wrote:
Really? How about GPS? Got a plan for getting them up there?
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yes it is. however i dont doubt some company would have done it anyway.Kmar wrote:
The development of putting things into low earth orbit is exclusive to space programs.11 Bravo wrote:
rockets arent exclusive to nasaKmar wrote:
Really? How about GPS? Got a plan for getting them up there?
i mean by this reasoning we should always be fighting as many wars as possible also
Don't forget microwaves and velcro.SenorToenails wrote:
Bell Labs developed those...I thought, anyway11 Bravo wrote:
well im sure someone would have figured out cell phones or whatever
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Private companies don't do it unless they see a profit. That's why I have a lot of doubts about a privatized space industry...11 Bravo wrote:
yes it is. however i dont doubt some company would have done it anyway.
Right... Except, you know, with out the the express intent of destroying buildings and killing people.11 Bravo wrote:
i mean by this reasoning we should always be fighting as many wars as possible also
No difference at all.
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well i have been given examples of many things that would make them money. gps....microwave..velcroSenorToenails wrote:
Private companies don't do it unless they see a profit. That's why I have a lot of doubts about a privatized space industry...11 Bravo wrote:
yes it is. however i dont doubt some company would have done it anyway.
just saying. wars have been credited for stuff we use also.Kmar wrote:
Right... Except, you know, with out the the express intent of destroying buildings and killing people.11 Bravo wrote:
i mean by this reasoning we should always be fighting as many wars as possible also
No difference at all.
I <3 NASA11 Bravo wrote:
well i have been given examples of many things that would make them money. gps....microwave..velcroSenorToenails wrote:
Private companies don't do it unless they see a profit. That's why I have a lot of doubts about a privatized space industry...11 Bravo wrote:
yes it is. however i dont doubt some company would have done it anyway.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
It already exist. Ask Gene Roddenberry, he is orbiting the earth right now. .. for example.SenorToenails wrote:
Private companies don't do it unless they see a profit. That's why I have a lot of doubts about a privatized space industry...11 Bravo wrote:
yes it is. however i dont doubt some company would have done it anyway.
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SenorToenails wrote:
Private companies don't do it unless they see a profit. That's why I have a lot of doubts about a privatized space industry...11 Bravo wrote:
yes it is. however i dont doubt some company would have done it anyway.
Had there been no NASA, would private companies have developed all that space tech?
That's kind of what I thought was posed here. No NASA to do the hard, expensive work of all the research...
Aww, fuck it. I'm not arguing against NASA. I think it ought to have more funding, just like how I think the NSF should have more funding. I <3 scientific research.
That's kind of what I thought was posed here. No NASA to do the hard, expensive work of all the research...
Aww, fuck it. I'm not arguing against NASA. I think it ought to have more funding, just like how I think the NSF should have more funding. I <3 scientific research.
And look at both the human and economic cost of war. One thing NASA does is perform experiments in order to forward our understanding of diseases. .. and if we can answer certain questions about life and the way the universe works then we can improve the quality of it at home. That is what NASA has been doing for years, on a mostly anemic budget.11 Bravo wrote:
just saying. wars have been credited for stuff we use also.Kmar wrote:
Right... Except, you know, with out the the express intent of destroying buildings and killing people.11 Bravo wrote:
i mean by this reasoning we should always be fighting as many wars as possible also
No difference at all.
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collapse the airforce and route that money to NASA
Surely the two can work something out togetherSEREMAKER wrote:
collapse the airforce and route that money to NASA
Spoiler (highlight to read):
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What you would see instead would be stuff like GPS coming with a monthly fee instead of being free.SenorToenails wrote:
Had there been no NASA, would private companies have developed all that space tech?
That's kind of what I thought was posed here. No NASA to do the hard, expensive work of all the research...
Aww, fuck it. I'm not arguing against NASA. I think it ought to have more funding, just like how I think the NSF should have more funding. I <3 scientific research.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
two peas in a podKmar wrote:
Surely the two can work something out togetherSEREMAKER wrote:
collapse the airforce and route that money to NASA
Spoiler (highlight to read):
US X-37B
btw they launched a second flight the other day from Vandenberg AFB via a Delta IV. I think that is the biggest rocket California has ever seen. It's a big candle. I can easily see it 115 miles away from the cape when it goes up over here.SEREMAKER wrote:
two peas in a podKmar wrote:
Surely the two can work something out togetherSEREMAKER wrote:
collapse the airforce and route that money to NASA
Spoiler (highlight to read):
US X-37B
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going into space and getting stuff done there is only something we'll be able to do as a collective - it is just far, far too expensive and difficult for a private company to pull off, for space to become profitable I think we'll have to wait another 100 years or until someone figures out how to mine asteroids.
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i disagree, because zero G is an industry. you could do it from low earth orbit.dayarath wrote:
going into space and getting stuff done there is only something we'll be able to do as a collective - it is just far, far too expensive and difficult for a private company to pull off, for space to become profitable I think we'll have to wait another 100 years or until someone figures out how to mine asteroids.
Then I am most definitely in the wrong line of work. Where's that supercomputer I had stashed to figure out this space mining.Kmar wrote:
...asteroids within our own solar system that could be mined for hundreds of trillions of dollars in return (net profit).
I don't remember much about it - only 8 years old - but it bugs me whenever the subject comes up in the news because they always say the shuttle "exploded" when it did nothing of the sort.
^ the external tank broke open and it erupted in a fireball.
Our class was outside watching when it happened. I was in elementary school. Later, I was shocked to hear that the astronauts were most likely alive up until they hit the water. Luckily they were probably rendered unconscious quickly, considering the altitude they were at. Still they must have been aware for a brief period of time.. the astronauts activated something after everything started going wrong. I can't remember what it was right now. They mentioned it in the series "When we left Earth".
* they manually activated the emergency oxygen system
Our class was outside watching when it happened. I was in elementary school. Later, I was shocked to hear that the astronauts were most likely alive up until they hit the water. Luckily they were probably rendered unconscious quickly, considering the altitude they were at. Still they must have been aware for a brief period of time.. the astronauts activated something after everything started going wrong. I can't remember what it was right now. They mentioned it in the series "When we left Earth".
* they manually activated the emergency oxygen system
"The forces on the orbiter at breakup were probably too low to cause death or serious injury," NASA medical honcho Joseph Kerwin wrote in a separate report. "The crew possibly, but not certainly, lost consciousness in the seconds following orbiter breakup." Some of the astronauts managed to get their emergency air packs switched on; of the four units later recovered, three had been manually activated. The fact that the fourth was not may indicate it was only a short time before everybody blacked out, but nobody knows for sure.
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