BF2S Forums The problem with the U.S. economy

adam1503 wrote:

You dont vote for the winner or the one who raised the most money or the one who aired the most ads, you vote for the candidate who most reflects what you believe in.

It always comes down to 2 candidates. I prefer to cast my vote on one of those, as apposed to wasting my vote on the "green party" like I did last time I voted. I took full responsibility when G. Dub got elected. I felt like I wasted my vote on Nader when it should have gone towards helping George Bush lose. Most of the people who voted for Nader, would have probably voted for Gore if those were the only two choices (Gore vs Bush). Then Gore would have won. Funny how that all worked out.

King_County_Downy wrote:

adam1503 wrote:

You dont vote for the winner or the one who raised the most money or the one who aired the most ads, you vote for the candidate who most reflects what you believe in.

It always comes down to 2 candidates. I prefer to cast my vote on one of those, as apposed to wasting my vote on the "green party" like I did last time I voted. I took full responsibility when G. Dub got elected. I felt like I wasted my vote on Nader when it should have gone towards helping George Bush lose. Most of the people who voted for Nader, would have probably voted for Gore if those were the only two choices (Gore vs Bush). Then Gore would have won. Funny how that all worked out.

Your state voted for Gore anyways, so your one vote for Nader didn't matter in the long run.

King_County_Downy wrote:

Ron Paul wrote:

including job-killing corporate taxes.

So the rich get richer? How do corporate taxes effect me? Sounds like Shenanigans.

Corporate taxes DIRECTLY affect the economy.  No company takes a hit when taxes are raised.  The company does two things: cuts down on labor and raises its prices.  The consumer pays dearly when the rich are taxed.  The rich will always be rich.  They are smart enough and resourceful enough to stay rich.  And the rich are the ones who own the businesses for whom we work.  If we punish them, we only punish ourselves.

now, I'm not a fan of Ron Paul...I don't think he'd be able to follow through on his ideas.  But the whole take money from the rich and give to the poor, it's not to stimulate the economy, it's to buy votes.  When you reward businesses, they grow.  When you punish businesses, they shrink.  Even here in NJ, one of the most regulated states in the nation...where they want to stimulate growth they knock the sales tax down from 7% to 3.5%.  Businesses then go there, because ultimately the consumer pays less there.  Obviously we all look for the best price, so that business makes more money, so it needs to hire more employees...

Giving money to the poor is great, but it's just charity.  It's not investing in the economy.  If you want the economy to grow, give money back to the businesses.  Stop taxing the shit out of them.

You know the phrase "it takes money to make money."  Everyone is always looking to make money.  If the gov't puts money into business, business will grow.  This means a lower unemployment rate, which means that employers will need to pay more to find good work which means wages go up for everyone...etc.



As to the opening post:  Don't let the Dems fool you.  This is an election year.  Anyone who didn't agree to pass out free money to voters during an election year is a dumbass.  The Dems are doing this, but they're cringing because they know it will be perceived this way.  But they have to.  They have no choice.