BF2S Forums US drugs official accuses Chavez

CameronPoe wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

Ok Cam, so no other country has border problems.  Right.

They seem to handle them better than you guys, but that's your business. Your federal government is on the case I hear.

Cam makes a good pun on our Federal system. It is a corrupt organization. usmarine haven't you heard of the American Union? Sadly those in the highest states of power are WANTING this to be put into effect and to replace the dollar collectively with the 'Amero'. Its just ONE step closer to WORLD GOVERNMENT. Think of the International Bankers here, this is their main goal and only agenda is to seek world power and domination, one government backed by their ability to control the markets and thus, the free will of the people.

Turquoise wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Why don't Americans just stop buying drugs? Or maybe control thier own ports and airfields where the stuff comes in?

Better question: Why don't we phase out the War on Drugs?

Our Government likes to paint a picture of an 'enemy' to our society so we can focus our attention on it, not only our attention, but our time, money and resources. Our Government will never let this war up because it is a profit machine for those on the receiving end of it. The Federal Reserve Board and the International bankers.

Dilbert_X wrote:

Why don't Americans just stop buying drugs?

what fun would that be?

Just so I understand.  You guys want the DEA abolished or something?

Im_Dooomed wrote:

Where has ANY government organization REALLY gotten us??

Are you kidding me?

We are a young nation compared to most, yet after WWII we accumulated more wealth than any other country in the world ever.  However, it will not be all good times.  Look at other nations and their history.  You act like our world is caving in.

Turquoise wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

Just so I understand.  You guys want the DEA abolished or something?

I'd like drug policy to involve a mostly rehab orientation.  I'd also like to legalize pot and softer drugs while finding more progressive ways of dealing with hard drugs.

Granted, I'd also like to prosecute all organized crime syndicates, but that's a long term goal for sure....

So no DEA?

Turquoise wrote:

The War on Drugs as we know it can totally change if the DEA is run by competent progressives.  Right now it's being run by idiots and hardliners.

First off, unless you are out there doing it everyday, you are way over the line.  Very easy for you to sit back in your nice comfortable world and criticize. 

But anyway...

If you take away everything the DEA has done, would we be better off?

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usmarine2005 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

The War on Drugs as we know it can totally change if the DEA is run by competent progressives.  Right now it's being run by idiots and hardliners.

First off, unless you are out there doing it everyday, you are way over the line.  Very easy for you to sit back in your nice comfortable world and criticize. 

But anyway...

If you take away everything the DEA has done, would we be better off?

Would it change your mind if I showed you that many of the drugs that cause our society problems today were either created by corporations and then made illegal after a market was established or created for nefarious purposes for the FBI and CIA?

Here are a few examples...  Heroin was literally made by Bayer: http://opioids.com/heroin/heroinhistory.html

LSD was created by Sandoz Laboratories (Novartis) and was used as an interrogation drug for the CIA project MKULTRA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MKULTRA

Many things were put into place by the progression of events here.  With most major illegal drugs, a legal market was established followed by prohibition, which creates a vast illegal market ripe for ruining lives, with the DEA being the main tool of oppression.

Hell, they even used to put cocaine in Coca-Cola.  This isn't an agenda of helping people.  It's an agenda to get people hooked and then exploit them.

I don't anymore.  The damn insurance companies won the war against privacy through drug testing.  So no, I only drink now.

I think you'd have an issue with the War on Drugs too, if they decided to make alcohol and cigarettes illegal.

usmarine2005 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

I think you'd have an issue with the War on Drugs too, if they decided to make alcohol and cigarettes illegal.

Well yes.  I have lived with booze being legal and pot being illegal.  I grew up in this country and that is the law.  People have the right to leave this country if they do not like it.  So yes, I would have a problem if they all of sudden banned alcohol.

So the question you must ask yourself is...  what gives the government the right to make one substance (pot) illegal, but allow a more harmful substance (alcohol) to remain legal?

Surely, you can see the inconsistency and ridiculousness in our policy on this, right?

I ask because it seems for the most part, the people who have the biggest issue with this are those who use drugs.

This is the very first time I agree with USMarine2005

OTOH

USBabykiller2005 wrote:

Ok, now you are pissing me off with your stupid ass statements.  You are so anti-American it is unbelievable.  The name dilbert fits you perfectly.

Nope I'm anti-bully. Its a characteristic of bullies they blame everyone for their problems but themselves.
Its not the evil Colombians forcing  your fellow Americans to take drugs, the US just can't get enough.
As for borders, which has the longer coastline? North or South America?
What do you really need to police, the bay of Mexico and the Mexican border? It wouldn't be too hard - if the US govt actually wanted to.
Instead the US tries to tell farmers across an entire foreign continent what they are and aren't allowed to grow, even though its the US consumer who demands these goods - ugly American anyone?

Why do you think I picked Dilbert eh Mr Dumbass? I am aware of exactly what I'm like.
I'm glad I'm pissing you off, so go ahead and be pissed off

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CameronPoe wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

m3thod wrote:

He's right though.  Your borders are a more porous than the titanic.

Also big as hell.  So to compare to other countries which have 1/10 of the border size, or are surrounded by water on all sides is retarded.

Yeah it must be really tough for each country-sized state to look after there own section of border. Really tough.

Well people crossing in from Mexico do whatever just to cross the border. It's not like if they cross the border and get caught and they're gonna say darn, since people watching it have guns now most of them just back off and try again another time but the ones that don't back off fight back. They will risk their lives to possibly get their family over. It's not just catching them and sending them back it can be dangerous at times. And it happens everyday 24/7 not just one family either it's alot. I don't know if we need more people watching or what but alot get through so it can be hard.

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CameronPoe wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Ya that is cute.  You can fist yourself for that douchbag.

Actually, you sound like bubbalo.

There you go - that's an example of a personal attack:

"You can fist yourself for that douchbag."

Oh I know.  But I do not deny it.

It is also funny how you quote me, and not correct him.

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