exactly what I was thinking too....He must think you implied that it was not true due to the fact that ig smoked weed.....or I don't knowjames@alienware wrote:
Excuse me.....but how is what I said (in bold just so you can see) show "hate"?Yaocelotl wrote:
Dude, don't get me wrong and al, but I dunno what does it have but stoners actually "know" more stuff than normal people. I had a couple of friends when I used to work in a museum who were frequent smokers, man, I haven't talked about so many things with a person in a long time.james@alienware wrote:
How can you guarantee you are smarter?
Again, some say that it broadens your senses, but since you are all showing only hate instead of a learning an open tolerant mind here, you will not get whatever ig or any of the stoners here will say.
I am no drug supporter but I tolerate whatever doesn't make me any harm directly. What I not tolerate is closed intolerant guys like some of you are in here.
There is a saying "live and let live" try to do it and you'll maybe stop being so prejudicial about people that you don't know because he/she smokes some herb with an active substance that makes them relax or whatever.
All I did was question something that ig said (shown below).
The question I asked does, in no way AT ALL show hate.Thanks.ig wrote:
number 1, marijuana is not a drug.FFLink13 wrote:
Ha ha, drugs...
Stupid people.
number 2, i guarantee i'm smarter than you.
*sigh* ignorant how?D6717C wrote:
Maybe not smarter, but definitely much more ignorant.ig wrote:
number 1, marijuana is not a drug.FFLink13 wrote:
Ha ha, drugs...
Stupid people.
number 2, i guarantee I'm smarter than you.
Substance use does not equal substance abuse. There is a line, as any social drinker or social smoker will tell you. As soon as the want or perceived "need" to use becomes the priority in someones life, that's where it becomes dangerous to the user. Plenty of people can use drugs socially without succumbing to the psychological or physiological need - that's where the difference is.adam1503 wrote:
Its pretty clear that he was referring to substance abuse e.g. actually taking something to make you feel different. Natural highs like being in love and watching sports are not the same.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
Being against anything that changes your state of mind is a somewhat simplistic argument in my opinion...are you against love? Watching your favorite sports team? Playing a video game? All those are considered "crap" that changes your state of mind. Marijuana or alcohol or really any drug (legal or not) does the same thing emotions do - release chemicals into your brain to make you feel a certain way - effectively changing your state of mind.
I can sit home and relax without having a drug help me out too. I don't drink coffee or energy drinks either, but that is a moot point. Sometimes I smoke herb because I just want to - I don't need an excuse to smoke. When I smoke and then play a video game, I feel like I have more command of the game. It doesn't necessarily mean that I actually do have more command, but that doesn't matter.
There are many things in life that most people partake in that is far worse than marijuana, yet it just doesn't have the social stigma that marijuana does. Really, it (smoking pot) has no negative effects on anyone except perhaps the user him/herself (and that is somewhat inconclusive as far as long term health effects).
I believe I can speak for him and probably all the pot smokers here - We don't need your pity, nor do we want it.
dude ig has posted some ignorant things......the part about fighting alcoholism instead of weed....my god wtf does that mean.adam1503 wrote:
*sigh* ignorant how?D6717C wrote:
Maybe not smarter, but definitely much more ignorant.ig wrote:
number 1, marijuana is not a drug.
number 2, i guarantee I'm smarter than you.
If this doesnt apply to you and you dont like it go away. SIMPLE!ig wrote:
Like the drunk thread but for us stoners.
This thread clearly isn't what it was intended to be...should be in D&ST the way it's going now
"I gaurantee I'm smater than you".....adam1503 wrote:
*sigh* ignorant how?D6717C wrote:
Maybe not smarter, but definitely much more ignorant.ig wrote:
number 1, marijuana is not a drug.
number 2, i guarantee I'm smarter than you.
You don't think it's ignorant to make such a statement?
Prove it by using your superior intelligence to convince me why we should all be sitting at home smoking weed.
the way this thread went is not the way i intended. i have argued this shit countless times, and i dont feel the need to continue doing so with 14 yr olds. now excuse me while i light my spliff.voodoodolphins wrote:
Why do you just give up...come on dude...you dont have to use more time to day but at least put an effort into your own thread......ig wrote:
i'm done arguing this shit. have a nice day gentlemen.
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I am in no position to say otherwise but what about 2nd hand smoke from smoking weed? I mean does that exist at all or what? if so then it is as bad as normal smokingKEN-JENNINGS wrote:
Really, it (smoking pot) has no negative effects on anyone except perhaps the user him/herself (and that is somewhat inconclusive as far as long term health effects).
fair enough...but assuming that all that disagree with you on this matter is 14 years of age is kinda ignorant also.ig wrote:
the way this thread went is not the way i intended. now excuse me while i light my spliff. i have argued this shit countless times, and i dont feel the need to continue doing so with 14 yr olds.voodoodolphins wrote:
Why do you just give up...come on dude...you dont have to use more time to day but at least put an effort into your own thread......ig wrote:
i'm done arguing this shit. have a nice day gentlemen.
Chances are anyone with you when you smoking will be doing the same...voodoodolphins wrote:
I am in no position to say otherwise but what about 2nd hand smoke from smoking weed? I mean does that exist at all or what? if so then it is as bad as normal smokingKEN-JENNINGS wrote:
Really, it (smoking pot) has no negative effects on anyone except perhaps the user him/herself (and that is somewhat inconclusive as far as long term health effects).
(Illegal) Substance Use = Substance Abuse. Using an illegal substance to achieve an altered state of mind is an abuse of that substance... using legal substances e.g. nicotine, alcohol isnt. Using any substance that alters your state of mind can lead to addiction.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
Substance use does not equal substance abuse. There is a line, as any social drinker or social smoker will tell you. As soon as the want or perceived "need" to use becomes the priority in someones life, that's where it becomes dangerous to the user. Plenty of people can use drugs socially without succumbing to the psychological or physiological need - that's where the difference is.
Substance use and addiction are different, though interlinked things. You seem to have them confused.
by the way you're arguing, it seems like your 14.voodoodolphins wrote:
fair enough...but assuming that all that disagree with you on this matter is 14 years of age is kinda ignorant also.ig wrote:
the way this thread went is not the way i intended. now excuse me while i light my spliff. i have argued this shit countless times, and i dont feel the need to continue doing so with 14 yr olds.voodoodolphins wrote:
Why do you just give up...come on dude...you dont have to use more time to day but at least put an effort into your own thread......
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=83906
show some respect people. if smoking is ig's thing, its his thing, so you should respect it.
show some respect people. if smoking is ig's thing, its his thing, so you should respect it.
Did you know that 2nd hand smoking applies at the moment you can sense the smoke....like smelling...which means every time you can smell someone smoking (I am of course talking about normal smoke from cigarettes etc...not weed) you are doing 2nd hand smoking.....so no I dont think your argument is valid.coke wrote:
Chances are anyone with you when you smoking will be doing the same...voodoodolphins wrote:
I am in no position to say otherwise but what about 2nd hand smoke from smoking weed? I mean does that exist at all or what? if so then it is as bad as normal smokingKEN-JENNINGS wrote:
Really, it (smoking pot) has no negative effects on anyone except perhaps the user him/herself (and that is somewhat inconclusive as far as long term health effects).
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Think drugs are cool? This thread should be closed
Do you always let yourself be irritated that easy??? But no I am not 14 years old.ig wrote:
by the way you're arguing, it seems like your 14.voodoodolphins wrote:
fair enough...but assuming that all that disagree with you on this matter is 14 years of age is kinda ignorant also.ig wrote:
the way this thread went is not the way i intended. now excuse me while i light my spliff. i have argued this shit countless times, and i dont feel the need to continue doing so with 14 yr olds.
ER ok...voodoodolphins wrote:
Did you know that 2nd hand smoking applies at the moment you can sense the smoke....like smelling...which means every time you can smell someone smoking (I am of course talking about normal smoke from cigarettes etc...not weed) you are doing 2nd hand smoking.....so no I dont think your argument is valid.coke wrote:
Chances are anyone with you when you smoking will be doing the same...voodoodolphins wrote:
I am in no position to say otherwise but what about 2nd hand smoke from smoking weed? I mean does that exist at all or what? if so then it is as bad as normal smoking
Of course that completely invalidates my argument...
I think this thread is quit respectful, we (some) just disagree with his view on weed...but maybe it ought to be moved to D&S...I don't know.Slickdawg8 wrote:
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=83906
show some respect people. if smoking is ig's thing, its his thing, so you should respect it.
but drinking alcohol is cool right?Kurazoo wrote:
Think drugs are cool? This thread should be closed
I hate the term marijuana. It's Cannabis. The term marijuana is only widespread because politicians like Anslinger figured using the spanish name would help ignorant folks see it as more of a threat.
As far as bashing ig for a "Official High Thread" are you kidding? I've seem some pretty stupid threads on BF2S that no one cared to flame the thread creator for. Shit, most the time mediocre threads seem to thrive here. This thread wasn't half as bad as some of the things I've seen here, and you all felt the need to flame it because, "drugs are bad." If you don't use Cannabis, then don't participate in the thread. You're flaming this thread makes as much sense as me flaming a thread about a keyboard because I don't like it.
As far as bashing ig for a "Official High Thread" are you kidding? I've seem some pretty stupid threads on BF2S that no one cared to flame the thread creator for. Shit, most the time mediocre threads seem to thrive here. This thread wasn't half as bad as some of the things I've seen here, and you all felt the need to flame it because, "drugs are bad." If you don't use Cannabis, then don't participate in the thread. You're flaming this thread makes as much sense as me flaming a thread about a keyboard because I don't like it.
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Oh shit, he's just won the argument.ig wrote:
the way this thread went is not the way i intended. i have argued this shit countless times, and i dont feel the need to continue doing so with 14 yr olds. now excuse me while i light my spliff.voodoodolphins wrote:
Why do you just give up...come on dude...you dont have to use more time to day but at least put an effort into your own thread......ig wrote:
i'm done arguing this shit. have a nice day gentlemen.
He pulled out the whole "14 year old" "Insult".
I'm hurt
Is that what you have to use?
And also, from the way you're typing, you seem to be the one acting more like a 14 year old.
Seriously.Hakei wrote:
Look, if you need drugs to help you get along in life, fine. But why create a topic where people are just supposed to talk about weed? If you want to talk about that, go find a forum that is based around drugs.
Druggies are such attention whores. If you do drugs, fucking sweet!!
Nobody gives a shit.
i wasnt referring to you. but if you're 14, im sorry.FFLink13 wrote:
Oh shit, he's just won the argument.ig wrote:
the way this thread went is not the way i intended. i have argued this shit countless times, and i dont feel the need to continue doing so with 14 yr olds. now excuse me while i light my spliff.voodoodolphins wrote:
Why do you just give up...come on dude...you dont have to use more time to day but at least put an effort into your own thread......
He pulled out the whole "14 year old" "Insult".
I'm hurt
Is that what you have to use?
And also, from the way you're typing, you seem to be the one acting more like a 14 year old.
Substance abuse can mean different things - using a substance (illegal or legal) to achieve an altered state of mind is not necessarily an abuse of that substance. Using paint thinner or huffing gas to achieve an altered state of mind is an abuse of that substance.adam1503 wrote:
(Illegal) Substance Use = Substance Abuse. Using an illegal substance to achieve an altered state of mind is an abuse of that substance... using legal substances e.g. nicotine, alcohol isnt. Using any substance that alters your state of mind can lead to addiction.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
Substance use does not equal substance abuse. There is a line, as any social drinker or social smoker will tell you. As soon as the want or perceived "need" to use becomes the priority in someones life, that's where it becomes dangerous to the user. Plenty of people can use drugs socially without succumbing to the psychological or physiological need - that's where the difference is.
Substance use and addiction are different, though interlinked things. You seem to have them confused.
Whether or not a drug or substance is legal or illegal really doesn't matter. It is the way the substance is used. I have much experience dealing with substance abuse.
There are varying degrees of thought regarding 'addiction'. Some substances are physically addicting; some substances are pyschologically addicting; some substances are or can be both. In fact, some people get addicted to adrenaline rushes from partaking in extreme activities - and it can negatively impact their life, just like substance abuse.
Trust me, I am not confused. I have been to rehab 3 times, not that I am particularly proud of it, but it has taught me much about substance use, abuse, and the user's feelings regarding addiction in general. I know firsthand what it is to be addicted to a substance - just like I know firsthand what it is like to use a substance socially without abusing it.
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