Braddock
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+916|6681|Éire

lowing wrote:

Braddock wrote:

lowing wrote:

Ehhhhhh, everyone is guilty of something
Don't be such an idiot lowing, that's probably what those Saudi's were saying to themselves as they were flying those planes into the world trade centre.

Read that wiki link I gave you...they were innocent and they were tortured for bogus confessions and had large chunks of their lives taken from them. Giuseppe Conlon was comopletely innocent but died in prison for something he didn't do.
I read it, but my question is this? If they had nothing to do with nothing, why were they picked up in the first place? I am sure there was a real reason to suspect if they were going to be bothered to arrest them. I am guess though.
What you are saying here lowing would be considered very offensive to Irish people given the nature of this particular case. This was a very famous case here in Ireland and Britain, a film was even made about it. Gerry Conlon and the rest of the Guildford Four were COMPLETELY exonerated. The reason himself and Paul Hill were arrested was because they happened to fit the profile of your average Irish activist back then...that was it. It turned out the police even withheld evidence that would have cleared them but they didn't want to backtrack on what they had done because of the 'greater battle' that was going on with the IRA.

This case serves as a perfect example of the perils of relying on dubious interrogation methods. His father died in prison because the British were happy to convict on information gleaned from torture...now that is terrorism.

Last edited by Braddock (2008-04-12 18:01:25)

lowing
Banned
+1,662|7042|USA

Braddock wrote:

lowing wrote:

Braddock wrote:


Don't be such an idiot lowing, that's probably what those Saudi's were saying to themselves as they were flying those planes into the world trade centre.

Read that wiki link I gave you...they were innocent and they were tortured for bogus confessions and had large chunks of their lives taken from them. Giuseppe Conlon was comopletely innocent but died in prison for something he didn't do.
I read it, but my question is this? If they had nothing to do with nothing, why were they picked up in the first place? I am sure there was a real reason to suspect if they were going to be bothered to arrest them. I am guess though.
What you are saying here lowing would be considered very offensive to Irish people given the nature of this particular case. This was a very famous case here in Ireland and Britain, a film was even made about it. Gerry Conlon and the rest of the Guildford Four were COMPLETELY exonerated. The reason himself and Paul Hill were arrested was because they happened to fit the profile of your average Irish activist back then...that was it. It turned out the police even withheld evidence that would have cleared them but they didn't want to backtrack on what they had done because of the 'greater battle' that was going on with the IRA.

This case serves as a perfect example of the perils of relying on dubious interrogation methods. His father died in prison because the British were happy to convict on information gleaned from torture...now that is terrorism.
agreed. if these are indeed the facts
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6681|Éire

lowing wrote:

Braddock wrote:

lowing wrote:

I read it, but my question is this? If they had nothing to do with nothing, why were they picked up in the first place? I am sure there was a real reason to suspect if they were going to be bothered to arrest them. I am guess though.
What you are saying here lowing would be considered very offensive to Irish people given the nature of this particular case. This was a very famous case here in Ireland and Britain, a film was even made about it. Gerry Conlon and the rest of the Guildford Four were COMPLETELY exonerated. The reason himself and Paul Hill were arrested was because they happened to fit the profile of your average Irish activist back then...that was it. It turned out the police even withheld evidence that would have cleared them but they didn't want to backtrack on what they had done because of the 'greater battle' that was going on with the IRA.

This case serves as a perfect example of the perils of relying on dubious interrogation methods. His father died in prison because the British were happy to convict on information gleaned from torture...now that is terrorism.
agreed. if these are indeed the facts
They are indeed the facts.

Check out the film "In The Name Of The Father" by Jim Sheridan, starring Daniel Day-Lewis. It tells the story of Gerry and Giuseppe Conlon.

Last edited by Braddock (2008-04-13 07:08:21)

lowing
Banned
+1,662|7042|USA

Braddock wrote:

lowing wrote:

Braddock wrote:


What you are saying here lowing would be considered very offensive to Irish people given the nature of this particular case. This was a very famous case here in Ireland and Britain, a film was even made about it. Gerry Conlon and the rest of the Guildford Four were COMPLETELY exonerated. The reason himself and Paul Hill were arrested was because they happened to fit the profile of your average Irish activist back then...that was it. It turned out the police even withheld evidence that would have cleared them but they didn't want to backtrack on what they had done because of the 'greater battle' that was going on with the IRA.

This case serves as a perfect example of the perils of relying on dubious interrogation methods. His father died in prison because the British were happy to convict on information gleaned from torture...now that is terrorism.
agreed. if these are indeed the facts
They are indeed the facts.

Check out the film "In The Name Of The Father" by Jim Sheridan, starring Daniel Day-Lewis. It tells the story of Gerry and Giuseppe Conlon.
I will thanks.

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