BF2S Forums What in the world has happened to your sense of criminal justice?!

ig wrote:

wat

You're not funny.

Ummm...or we can put it this way.

Don't commit crimes and you lessen your chances considerably of getting shot.

Spark wrote:

Christ almighty.

I love it!!!!!!!!!!!! 2 more felons thet will never harm another person again.

This is in response to an ATTEMPTED ROBBERY.

This is just one of a string of responses like this in recent weeks

What kind of fucking democracy are you guys trying to create? One where a basic robbery earns you a death warrant?

I gotta wonder sometimes.

Even shariah law isn't this harsh.

Are you endorsing robbery?  If the intent to steal was present, death sounds like a nice way of saying "Way to go low-life".  Call it strict punishment but if death was the punishment for all life-threatening crimes (IE robbery, drunk driving, etc.), America would quickly become the safest nation on Earth.

Spark wrote:

Mmmkay.

So that justifies the use of excessive force.

Not in my book, no.

Never said it did.  But...if you DO NOT COMMIT CRIMES ORDINARY PEOPLE WILL NOT BE PUT IN EXTREME CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE MISTAKES HAPPEN!!!!!!

Spark wrote:

Christ almighty.

I love it!!!!!!!!!!!! 2 more felons thet will never harm another person again.

[b]This is in response to an ATTEMPTED ROBBERY.

This is just one of a string of responses like this in recent weeks

What kind of fucking democracy are you guys trying to create? One where a basic robbery earns you a death warrant?

I gotta wonder sometimes.

Even shariah law isn't this harsh.You are taking this out of context and you damn well know it. I shudder at the notion that you would step aside and LET your home be robbed because you think the robbers do not deserve to be confronted by you because it is  possible that they might get hurt or killed in their attempt. Get fuckin real.


What kind of democracy do I want??, I want a democracy where criminals are punished for their crimes and victims are compensated for their losses by the criminal.

I want a democracy where I am allowed to defend myself and my family without being frowned upon for doing so, by people the likes of you.

I want a democracy where people are held accountable for their actions.

PspRpg-7 wrote:

Havok wrote:

Spark wrote:

Christ almighty.


This is in response to an ATTEMPTED ROBBERY.

This is just one of a string of responses like this in recent weeks

What kind of fucking democracy are you guys trying to create? One where a basic robbery earns you a death warrant?

I gotta wonder sometimes.

Even shariah law isn't this harsh.

Are you endorsing robbery?  If the intent to steal was present, death sounds like a nice way of saying "Way to go low-life".  Call it strict punishment but if death was the punishment for all life-threatening crimes (IE robbery, drunk driving, etc.), America would quickly become the safest nation on Earth.

But the population would plummet, BUT the average IQ would go up.

And the place would turn into a showpiece for anarchy.

Vigilante justice = fail IMO.

Gee it looks like you are not getting reponses you hoped for, huh Spark.

mcminty wrote:

I find it ironic that this mentality of 'shoot first' comes from the same nation that brings us the 'Sanctity of Life'.

oh jesus

Havok wrote:

Spark wrote:

Christ almighty.

I love it!!!!!!!!!!!! 2 more felons thet will never harm another person again.

This is in response to an ATTEMPTED ROBBERY.

This is just one of a string of responses like this in recent weeks

What kind of fucking democracy are you guys trying to create? One where a basic robbery earns you a death warrant?

I gotta wonder sometimes.

Even shariah law isn't this harsh.

Are you endorsing robbery?  If the intent to steal was present, death sounds like a nice way of saying "Way to go low-life".  Call it strict punishment but if death was the punishment for all life-threatening crimes (IE robbery, drunk driving, etc.), America would quickly become the safest nation on Earth.

Are you retarded? Sure lets replace all the petty crime with executions, I'm sure it will be a happier country. Fucking idiots. This is not a flame. You are recommending a holocaust. You deserve a harsh reply.

Spark wrote:

Confrontation =/= use of deadly force. Learn a martial art and that's the first thing they tell you.

EVERY country punishes criminals for their crimes. It's just that non-democracies tend to punish the criminals excessively.

I will frown upon the unnecessary and excessive use of force. You can defend yourself without killing, if you hadn't realised.

I really agree with your stance in this thread.

Last edited by Marinejuana (2008-01-01 19:56:08)

lowing wrote:

Gee it looks like you are not getting reponses you hoped for, huh Spark.

I don't bait.

Spark wrote:

lowing wrote:

Spark wrote:

Christ almighty.


[b]This is in response to an ATTEMPTED ROBBERY.

This is just one of a string of responses like this in recent weeks

What kind of fucking democracy are you guys trying to create? One where a basic robbery earns you a death warrant?

I gotta wonder sometimes.

Even shariah law isn't this harsh.

You are taking this out of context and you damn well know it. I shudder at the notion that you would step aside and LET your home be robbed because you think the robbers do not deserve to be confronted by you because it is  possible that they might get hurt or killed in their attempt. Get fuckin real.


What kind of democracy do I want??, I want a democracy where criminals are punished for their crimes and victims are compensated for their losses by the criminal.

I want a democracy where I am allowed to defend myself and my family without being frowned upon for doing so, by people the likes of you.

I want a democracy where people are held accountable for their actions.

Confrontation =/= use of deadly force. Learn a martial art and that's the first thing they tell you.

EVERY country punishes criminals for their crimes. It's just that non-democracies tend to punish the criminals excessively.

I will frown upon the unnecessary and excessive use of force. You can defend yourself without killing, if you hadn't realised.

Sorry, if I am forced to get my shotgun to defend my family I WILL NOT be shooting to wound.................If you hadn't realized.

Spark wrote:

Christ almighty.

I love it!!!!!!!!!!!! 2 more felons thet will never harm another person again.

[b]This is in response to an ATTEMPTED ROBBERY.

This is just one of a string of responses like this in recent weeks

What kind of fucking democracy are you guys trying to create? One where a basic robbery earns you a death warrant?

I gotta wonder sometimes.

Even shariah law isn't this harsh.The first time it shouldn't, but the second yes. A person can make a mistake once, and they should have a chance to not repeat it. However, if they do it again, painfully harsh penalties should be levied (like 25+ years in prison). No one will commit a robbery if they face 25 years in prison, and if someone actually does, then there is nothing to feel sorry for; they had the opportunity to become a functioning member of society, but refused, and need to learn the consequences.

Obviously, this would be solely with nonviolent crimes. DUIs, for example should be punished harshly from the beginning, because there is no excuse for being a danger to others. Additionally, this penal reform would have to come with a reformation of the jail system. Inmates should be slightly less comfortable than they are now, because it is ridiculous how much we spend on their prison care. However, we need to make the transition back into society much easier and more helpful than 20 dollars in their pocket. A major reason for recidivism is that socioeconomic conditions that caused the first crime are unchanged after the first prison term, so the criminal is driven to commit the crime again. If we strive to help the criminal ascend out of an impoverished, unstable existence, they will be less likely to commit a second crime.

Edit: Summary for lazy people: Criminal deserve one chance. After that, they need harsh penalties to dissuade them for committing crimes. We should help criminals the first time, to try to reform them, but recidivism requires harsh punishment to set an example.

Spark wrote:

lowing wrote:

Gee it looks like you are not getting reponses you hoped for, huh Spark.

I don't bait.

You aren't serious, right?

Last edited by nukchebi0 (2008-01-01 20:07:19)