BF2S Forums Man Kills Suspected Intruders While Protecting Neighbour's Property

RoosterCantrell wrote:

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

lowing wrote:

Hmmmmmmm I wonder what you would do if someone broke into your nieghbors house while your son or daughter was spending the night there.
Nothing I am sure.

I already told ya, I won't see or hear a thing, I wouldn't care if ya fuckin froze to death stuck in your chimney or some other stupid shit. Probably would send the video to the Darwin Awards or one of the funniest video shows.

LOL!!!  You are so pathetic.  I feel sorry for your wife and family.  As much as I am a devout athiest I will say this, for your benefit...

May God have murcy on your soul.

Oh, and if there is a hell, and I'm going there, I have a place reserved just for you. 

constructive...

I'm editing this post because I have no intent of looking back over that many pages of posts to see what Rooster posted, and I think I may have overreacted to his post.  So, to Rooster, I apologize.

Last edited by Agent_Dung_Bomb (2008-01-01 21:17:56)

RoosterCantrell wrote:

EDIT: nevermind. 

I was just gonna say chill out, much love all around.

ahaha i was just reading what you really did say, good thing you read the apology note

belldawg wrote:

RoosterCantrell wrote:

EDIT: nevermind. 

I was just gonna say chill out, much love all around.

ahaha i was just reading what you really did say, good thing you read the apology note

ahh it wasnt bad.  i was just saying insult aren't constructive..

now IM the one derailing

-apologies-

lowing wrote:

This poor criminal shit never ceases to amaze me. You do realize it was the CRIMINALS that deserve to get hurt or killed during the commitment of a felony and NOT the victims RIGHT??

This argument brings to mind two immediate faults. The first is that Horn wasn't a victim at all. The second is what seems to a more over arching problem with you. The Fact That Its NOT Black And White. The only two options here AREN'T

a. Law abiding citizen so American they shit apple pie, or
b. Someone who committed a felony boom headshot.

Point is just because someone committed a crime it doesn't instantly make them eligible for death on the spot sans jury, judge, or trial.

And again, Horn said "I'm going to kill them". He went out there intending to kill them. Over a bag full of his neighbours possessions. What's right about that?

lowing wrote:

Now, are you going to stand by your belief that a home owner should NOT have the right to use deadly force in the defense of his hearth and home because the penal code has no provisions to kill burglars?

The penal code has provisions not to kill burglars because theft is not deemed to be a felony that warrants death. And again, obviously if a burglar is carrying a gun/running towards you with a knife/menacing you you'd be justified (to various levels) in shooting him.

If the criminal isn't using deadly force (or in this case is in fact not using force at all because they were running away), where's the justification for deadly force? They were on his land? They'd stolen? Neither trespassing or theft are capital offenses, and while Horn's back yard obviously wasn't a court, seeing as there is no case of self defense here you do have to look at what crime has been committed (in this case non capital crimes) when seeking an explanation for this heroic act violent shooting.

lowing wrote:

Nope, I am saying after being attacked, whether the criminal then runs or not, I can completely understand a victim being so full of emotion and adrenalin that he might shoot his attacker in the back, I also have no problem with it. Does that clarify it?

So what you're saying is that it's justifiable to commit a crime if you're a bit upset?

And again how does Horn qualify as the victim here? It wasn't his house, and he went looking for them (against the advice of emergency services none the less). He doesn't really sound like a victim at all to me.

Moo? Si! wrote:

1.  This tells me they were on his property when he told them not to move.
2.  They moved, possibly towards him, possibly away.  Given the adrenaline, the situation and location, I'm sure it was hard to discern which direction. 
3.  The dispatch seemed overly nonchalant.  I think if I was him and a guy just told me he was going after a couple of douche bags with a shotgun, I think I would be yelling at patrol to get their ass in gear and give an ETA.
4. Criminals are stupid, if they hit up a house and get away with it, they're going to the same house/houses in the area again. 
5.  Illegal aliens, theft.  Not off to a good start in the law abiding citizens category.

1. Not a capital offense

2. So what you're saying is that he didn't know what direction they were headed in but still managed land fatal shots on both of them? Because that doesn't really make sense to me (and yes, I have fired guns before).

3. Yes, because I'm sure screaming at Horn and screaming down the phone to the cops to 'hurry up before this redneck kills them' or something would have calmed him down.

4. Again, not a capital offense

5. And I hate to sound like a broken record player, but, not a capital offense

lowing wrote:

If you would not defend your home and your family up to and including death then you are either a liar, or a coward.

Of course a vast majority would defend their family to the death. But that's not what this is about. Defending family to the death doesn't comprise going to bring to justice execute two people who are dangerous and at large pose no threat to you because they wronged your neighbour by committing a non capital offense.

lowing wrote:

Again I do not support murder but if a criminal gets killed while commiting their crimes oh well.

I don't know about what planet you're from, but on Earth the only two colours aren't black and white.

I'm still astounded that people on here think that a non violent burglary justifies being shot executed by a perfectly sane rational citizen vigilante redneck while feeling the scene.

Hero my ass. He should at least face two charges of manslaughter. Probably first degree murder, but then and again this is Texas we're talking about.

Last edited by SharkyMcshark (2008-01-01 23:22:11)