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Would the world be better of without religion?
| Yes | 63% | 63% - 56 | ||||
| No | 36% | 36% - 32 | ||||
| Total: 88 | ||||||
No, because Religion provided the basis of law.
No, morals provide the bases of both law and religion. Religion is just an excuse to keep them.liquidat0r wrote:
No, because Religion provided the bases of law.
-konfusion
And keeping laws is a bad thing?konfusion wrote:
No, morals provide the bases of both law and religion. Religion is just an excuse to keep them.liquidat0r wrote:
No, because Religion provided the bases of law.
Liquidat0r hit the nail on the head.
In a slightly different twist, without religion, there is no consequence for anti-social behavior in the world. The types of behavior that are detrimental to society working smoothly are generally verboten in most of the world's religions. Without the guidelines that religions offer, human nature would take over, and society would not function as well, if at all.
In a slightly different twist, without religion, there is no consequence for anti-social behavior in the world. The types of behavior that are detrimental to society working smoothly are generally verboten in most of the world's religions. Without the guidelines that religions offer, human nature would take over, and society would not function as well, if at all.
Last edited by FEOS (2007-12-21 03:34:42)
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Hell why don't we just get rid of it and see what happens?!
I'm all for it.
I'm all for it.
No. But I'm saying that religion is not the base of religions, it's a mechanism of control.liquidat0r wrote:
And keeping laws is a bad thing?konfusion wrote:
No, morals provide the bases of both law and religion. Religion is just an excuse to keep them.liquidat0r wrote:
No, because Religion provided the bases of law.
-konfusion
religion = war
Actually, no. Differing ideas = war. Therefore, there will always be war, no matter what. Unless you brainwash an entire population.pirana6 wrote:
religion = war
-konfusion
I voted no. I'm not against religion and a person holding a particular set of beliefs and values... but I am against they way it is organised and run in the modern world. I think the world would be a better place if religion was not utilised to achieve ones political agenda, and if the morality of those in office was not imposed on everyone else.
Religion has been the cause of countless wars. Religion has ended none.
Religion has outlived its purpose. There is no longer a necessity for it and personally I think it needs to be consigned to the trashcan of history along with theories on how the earth is flat, etc.
Amen.CameronPoe wrote:
Religion has outlived its purpose. There is no longer a necessity for it and personally I think it needs to be consigned to the trashcan of history along with theories on how the earth is flat, etc.
Oh shi...
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
when the laws are upheld by archaic religious beliefs they are. or maybe i should take your mum to the middle east, rape her and then have her executed..?liquidat0r wrote:
And keeping laws is a bad thing?konfusion wrote:
No, morals provide the bases of both law and religion. Religion is just an excuse to keep them.liquidat0r wrote:
No, because Religion provided the bases of law.
lol that was bad even by my standards. but still... point to be made i guess.
It depends on how you look at it. The effects of removing religion would be:
Whilst my credentials say I am Christian, I do not see myself as much of a religious person. I do, however, believe that the way I conduct myself is due to a basis on religion.
- Several ongoing wars & disagreements should cease.
- Children and people are not taught: How to behave, what is right and wrong, what to believe, what is expected of them, how to conduct themselves, the importance of manners, history and forgiveness.
Whilst my credentials say I am Christian, I do not see myself as much of a religious person. I do, however, believe that the way I conduct myself is due to a basis on religion.
I am atheist, as for as I know thats not a religion and I am thaught how to behave, what is right and wrong, etc.liquidat0r wrote:
It depends on how you look at it. The effects of removing religion would be:
- Several ongoing wars & disagreements should cease.
- Children and people are not taught: How to behave, what is right and wrong, what to believe, what is expected of them, how to conduct themselves, the importance of manners, history and forgiveness.
Whilst my credentials say I am Christian, I do not see myself as much of a religious person. I do, however, believe that the way I conduct myself is due to a basis on religion.
Would the world be better off without religion?
Depends if you're religious..
Depends if you're religious..
Last edited by ..teddy..jimmy (2007-12-21 04:10:59)
I am an atheist. I conduct myself on basis of personal belief of right and wrong, ie morals. I am in some ways a puritan. I don't believe in sex with someone you don't care for. I don't believe in drugs. I don't even really believe in getting drunk. I will always stand up for someone who needs it if I can (ie if I don't die doing it).
I was not brought up religiously. I have made up my own beliefs through my own experiences.
-konfusion
I was not brought up religiously. I have made up my own beliefs through my own experiences.
-konfusion
QFT, I was brought up without any religion, and I've ended up just fine. I would like to think that my behaviour, the way I respect other people and my morals in general are of a high standard.RDMC wrote:
I am atheist, as for as I know thats not a religion and I am thaught how to behave, what is right and wrong, etc.liquidat0r wrote:
It depends on how you look at it. The effects of removing religion would be:
- Several ongoing wars & disagreements should cease.
- Children and people are not taught: How to behave, what is right and wrong, what to believe, what is expected of them, how to conduct themselves, the importance of manners, history and forgiveness.
Whilst my credentials say I am Christian, I do not see myself as much of a religious person. I do, however, believe that the way I conduct myself is due to a basis on religion.
Religion does not teach you the above. Morality teaches you the above, and morality is not based upon religion, religion is based upon morality (aparrently). Therefore without religion we would still have that base of morality.
Last edited by KILLSWITCH (2007-12-21 04:15:51)
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
The obvious benefit of religion is the charitable work that nobody can deny they add to society.
Religion has never been a basis for morality. If religion was a basis of morality, the morality of religions wouldn't keep changing to match that of societies.
Religion has never been a basis for morality. If religion was a basis of morality, the morality of religions wouldn't keep changing to match that of societies.
Same, I've never taken anything going with religion and I still know what is right and what is wrong.KILLSWITCH wrote:
QFT, I was brought up without any religion, and I've ended up just fine. I would like to think that my behaviour, the way I respect other people and my morals in general are of a high standard.RDMC wrote:
I am atheist, as for as I know thats not a religion and I am thaught how to behave, what is right and wrong, etc.liquidat0r wrote:
It depends on how you look at it. The effects of removing religion would be:
- Several ongoing wars & disagreements should cease.
- Children and people are not taught: How to behave, what is right and wrong, what to believe, what is expected of them, how to conduct themselves, the importance of manners, history and forgiveness.
Whilst my credentials say I am Christian, I do not see myself as much of a religious person. I do, however, believe that the way I conduct myself is due to a basis on religion.
Religion does not teach you the above. Morality teaches you the above, and morality is not based upon religion, religion is based upon morality (aparrently). Therefore without religion we would still have that base of morality.
i think religion is a good thing... it gives people something to beleive in.... something to come back to if things go bad...
but i dont think that some religions can co-exist... there to different.
idealy the worl would be united by one religion...but like that would ever happen
but i dont think that some religions can co-exist... there to different.
idealy the worl would be united by one religion...but like that would ever happen
Last edited by Little BaBy JESUS (2007-12-21 04:26:01)
Obviously the world would be much worse. Maybe the majority here wish there was no Christian/Muslim/Jewish god, but surely getting rid of religion is a terrible step backwards. It encompasses not only what that organized religion may have somewhat laid out already, but it gives wiggle room in which you form your own beliefs about life and what's the best way to live it.
As I've claimed before, everyone is religious because they are all individual religions with everyone having seperate and unique beliefs. It just so happens that some people happen to pick parts to join together with. That is how you get extremists, because extreme is a relative term in comparison to the non-extreme people. No two people believe exactly the same things to exactly the same extent. Everyone has founded their own unorganized religion to follow.
As I've claimed before, everyone is religious because they are all individual religions with everyone having seperate and unique beliefs. It just so happens that some people happen to pick parts to join together with. That is how you get extremists, because extreme is a relative term in comparison to the non-extreme people. No two people believe exactly the same things to exactly the same extent. Everyone has founded their own unorganized religion to follow.
But then think about its, without religion (in this example Islam) the entire Middle East may have developed like the rest of the world instead of only areas around Saudi Arabia.
I answered yes but it's hard to think that it would be better.
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