maef wrote:
Poseidon wrote:
maef wrote:
Are you telling me, you believe they only had a perfect season because they owned a couple sideline tapes of the 3-12 Jets? Please!
Maef, it doesn't matter if it was against a team that hadn't won in their entire history.
They still cheated.
And their season will always be tainted and marked with an asterisk by many fans because of it.
First off, as far as I know they only attempted to cheat but never even got around to actually doing it.
Other than that, please answer the following questions. Leave all your feelings towards the Patriots aside and just think about it.
1. If the whole spygate affair had never happened, do you believe the Pats would still have beaten the Jets in that game?
and
2. If it really gave them an advantage against the Jets, how do you think did spygate affect the rest of the games? How did it affect beating all those other great teams?
If you think about that impartially, you'll have to admit the Pats made that perfect season all on their own power.
Even if spygate did give them an advantage, it was an advantage they never needed and they would have achieved this perfect season anyway.
As I said before, I'm definitely not a Pats fan, but I have to give it to them. They fought hard this season and they earned what they achieved.
1. Yup. But it doesn't matter. The fact that they attempted to/or did makes their season unrecognizable to me.
2. It didn't. Which is why I would probably be congratulating them if it weren't for the whole spygate situation. Like I said, it doesn't matter if they're playing a team that's 0-15. Cheating's cheating no matter how you see it.
And yes, they probably would have. But like I said, you just DON'T cheat in a game no matter who you're playing and what the score is.
I'm a huge Jabar Gaffney fan (my mom knew his dad when he was on the Jets) so it's not like I hate all of the Patriots. As a whole, yes. But many of their players (and former players...Adam Vinatieri being first) I like a lot. Tedy Bruschi, Mike Vrabel, Wes Welker, Laurence Maroney, etc.
deeznutz1245 wrote:
I laugh at "Spygate".
Any fucking idiot knows that all teams do that. And when a few weeks ago after the Jets admitted to taping in Foxboro last year in the playoffs nobody said shit. When the Pats were asked what they wanted the league to do about it they said "no comment, it will be settled on the field". And it certainly was. The point is the Jets blew the whistle and piised off a lot of NFL teams who do the same thing but now cant because of the scrutiny. The Pats never pointed the finger back and said "you do it too" because they have more class and didnt have to resort to driving the bus because they suck like the Jets. Besides, if you arent changing your signals every game then you have no business playing in the NFL. Even my high school team changed our signals because every game had scouts from our next opponent watching us. It is part of football.
You define "tunnel vision". Many people have tried to tell you what the Jets did was not the same as the Pats. Jets taped the game, Pats taped the signals. You don't get it and don't understand plain english it seems.
You act like you know exactly what every single team does, what every coach knows, and what every player thinks.
And if I recall, Spygate was only announced early in the season. It's not like the Jets knew they were going to have an abyssmal record like they did, so it's not like they did it out of scrutiny. They did it out of making sure it didn't happen to any other team. I also recall other teams claiming the Patriots did that too to them last year.
But of course, you don't see that because you're too busy sucking the dick of your precious Patriots to notice.
Last edited by Poseidon (2007-12-30 10:48:37)
