sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|6754|Argentina
Neoconservatives have devised their brilliant plan to combat "terrorism" ... "NEVER LISTEN" to the 1.4 billion Muslims, never try to UNDERSTAND their problems, and never provide solutions to ALLEVIATE their grievances.  Instead, invade their countries, keep helping Israel and make generalizations about all Muslims being extremists.

Pretty much what I have been saying all along.  Islamophobia is the neoconservative answer.  How about that.
G3|Genius
Pope of BF2s
+355|6623|Sea to globally-cooled sea
there problems are irrational, man.  There is no understanding them, by definition.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|6758

sergeriver wrote:

Neoconservatives have devised their brilliant plan to combat "terrorism" ... "NEVER LISTEN" to the 1.4 billion Muslims, never try to UNDERSTAND their problems, and never provide solutions to ALLEVIATE their grievances.  Instead, invade their countries, keep helping Israel and make generalizations about all Muslims being extremists.

Pretty much what I have been saying all along.  Islamophobia is the neoconservative answer.  How about that.
Never helped them?  Albania anyone?
maffiaw
ph33r me 傻逼
+40|6417|Melbourne, AUS

G3|Genius wrote:

there problems are irrational, man.  There is no understanding them, by definition.
irrational you say? irrational because you don't want to understand them. Wanting their territory back and the cessation of being continually raped in the ass by Israel and other Western countries is hardly an abstract concept. Sure, the methods in which some of them vent their frustrations is horrible, but the core of the problem is not a mystery.

lol, this is a direct challenge to Iowing's thread!
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|6754|Argentina

usmarine2005 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Neoconservatives have devised their brilliant plan to combat "terrorism" ... "NEVER LISTEN" to the 1.4 billion Muslims, never try to UNDERSTAND their problems, and never provide solutions to ALLEVIATE their grievances.  Instead, invade their countries, keep helping Israel and make generalizations about all Muslims being extremists.

Pretty much what I have been saying all along.  Islamophobia is the neoconservative answer.  How about that.
Never helped them?  Albania anyone?
Which neocon helped them?
G3|Genius
Pope of BF2s
+355|6623|Sea to globally-cooled sea
dude, their religion is ass-backward.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6402|North Carolina

maffiaw wrote:

G3|Genius wrote:

there problems are irrational, man.  There is no understanding them, by definition.
irrational you say? irrational because you don't want to understand them. Wanting their territory back and the cessation of being continually raped in the ass by Israel and other Western countries is hardly an abstract concept. Sure, the methods in which some of them vent their frustrations is horrible, but the core of the problem is not a mystery.

lol, this is a direct challenge to Iowing's thread!
Pretty much...  We just need to move away from oil and leave these fuckers alone.  Let Israel and the Islamic World sort things out on their own terms.  There's no sense in wasting American lives on this bullshit.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|6758

sergeriver wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Neoconservatives have devised their brilliant plan to combat "terrorism" ... "NEVER LISTEN" to the 1.4 billion Muslims, never try to UNDERSTAND their problems, and never provide solutions to ALLEVIATE their grievances.  Instead, invade their countries, keep helping Israel and make generalizations about all Muslims being extremists.

Pretty much what I have been saying all along.  Islamophobia is the neoconservative answer.  How about that.
Never helped them?  Albania anyone?
Which neocon helped them?
The people who actually went over there to fight.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6597|132 and Bush

G3|Genius wrote:

dude, their religion is ass-backward.

Xbone Stormsurgezz
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6402|North Carolina

G3|Genius wrote:

dude, their religion is ass-backward.
I'm no fan of Islam either, but it doesn't change the fact that we need to get out of Iraq.  We also might want to limit immigration from the Middle East in general.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6402|North Carolina

Kmarion wrote:

G3|Genius wrote:

dude, their religion is ass-backward.

LOL...  they should do one on the Quran as well.
David.P
Banned
+649|6270

Kmarion wrote:

G3|Genius wrote:

dude, their religion is ass-backward.

If they really wanted to call out bullshit they'ed go after Islam but they are too afraid. They themselves are bullshitting us.
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6442|The Land of Scott Walker

sergeriver wrote:

Neoconservatives have devised their brilliant plan to combat "terrorism" ... "NEVER LISTEN" to the 1.4 billion Muslims, never try to UNDERSTAND their problems, and never provide solutions to ALLEVIATE their grievances.  Instead, invade their countries, keep helping Israel and make generalizations about all Muslims being extremists.

Pretty much what I have been saying all along.  Islamophobia is the neoconservative answer.  How about that.
The grievance of the Muslims that are extremists is that the known world has not converted to Islam.  Good luck alleviating that one.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6402|North Carolina

David.P wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

G3|Genius wrote:

dude, their religion is ass-backward.

If they really wanted to call out bullshit they'ed go after Islam but they are too afraid. They themselves are bullshitting us.
I believe that episode was made before 9/11...  I could be wrong though...
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6597|132 and Bush

David.P wrote:

If they really wanted to call out bullshit they'ed go after Islam but they are too afraid. They themselves are bullshitting us.

Penn wrote:

You don't have to actually have any sexual contact. Just enough so that anybody that has the sexual phobias of the Abrahamic religions [Judaism, Christianity, and Islam] has to violate that deeply. You probably don't have to pay the two people; they would probably think it was a cool, fun thing to do. You just barely touch your lips with the genitals--just like that--and you have a little piece of bacon and you get on the plane. There's no searching your luggage. No nothing. We're all set.
They have taken shots at all religions.
http://www.pennandteller.com/03/coolstu … urope.html
This sums it up well though.


"Since Christians appear to be pissed off that there is a double standard about defaming Christianity instead of Islam, as illustrated by the recent South Park episodes, I would just like to say three things.

First, all religions need to be dragged through the mud (or, as on South Park, through the feces — whichever you have on hand will do). If your beliefs can’t withstand irreverence by people who don’t share them then you need to take a deep, deep look inside yourself and figure out why you are so damned offended by somebody else, in essence, not agreeing with you. If you really think you’re right, then why should it matter if they agree with you? Water off a duck’s back, we used to say, back in the days before political correctness.

Second, if there is a “double standard” whereby Christianity gets made fun of while Islam is hands-off, then there is really only one reason for that, and it should make the Christians proud. Have you figured out what it is? Here, I’ll tell you: Christians generally don’t kill people when we make fun of their religion. Did you get that? Meanwhile, Muslims, when other people they have never met draw a picture of Muhammad and show it to still other people they have not met, in countries they have never visited, and those Muslims find that picture offensive, they get violent. They act like immature little children, except they have guns and bombs. It’s a credit to Christianity that such a double standard exists.

Third, I would like to throw my hat into the ring with my own image of the prophet. Are you ready? It might be offensive. Watch out. Here it is:
prophet.jpg

Are you scared yet? Try this one. Watch out. If you show these around, you’ll just give irrational people an excuse to kill you. But don’t be afraid. Steal my image above and put it on your own website. Crush the double standard. Be an American for crying out loud; anyone can do it.

Finally, a famous verse from the Koran:

9.5:So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.


(While we’re at it, why not go and watch the video that got Theo van Gogh killed.) "
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Harmor
Error_Name_Not_Found
+605|6545|San Diego, CA, USA
We thought that it was a bad economic outlook that led people to Extremist Islam, but the London Doctor Terrorists prove that theory wrong (even Bin la din come from a wealthy Saudi family).

Its an ideology that cannot be reasoned with.  This isn't a thug that you can put into prison and hope he reforms, or a drunk you can put in an AA program to stop being drunk...this is Radical Islam.

The only way to deal with them is to kill as many of them as quickly as possible...to fight them wherever they are...to kill them wherever they stand.

They don't mind dying for their 72 virgins, so we shouldn't mind killing them so they get their faster.


Another reason, of course is because Terror Is Bad For The Environment.
David.P
Banned
+649|6270
@Kmar i wanna see them trash the koran like the bible and i want them to say Islam is evil. If there response is an internet post then i stand by what i said earlier. They are the biggest bullshitters outthere.
Havok
Nymphomaniac Treatment Specialist
+302|6671|Florida, United States

Harmor wrote:

The only way to deal with them is to kill as many of them as quickly as possible...to fight them wherever they are...to kill them wherever they stand.
That, my friend, is the most fucking stupid comment I have ever heard.  Do you even know what terrorism is?  It' the creation and spreading of terror.  What better way to spread terror that to kill other people who are creating terror.  Yes, let's show the world that we are top dog when it comes to terror, and not those pathetic radicals with bombs on their chests in the Middle East.

Harmor wrote:

They don't mind dying for their 72 virgins, so we shouldn't mind killing them so they get their faster.
Are you a Christian?  If so, don't mind me killing you so you can go to heaven and get everlasting peace and happiness.  You wouldn't like that would you, so why do you think they would?

I really think you need to get educated, and fast.
Harmor
Error_Name_Not_Found
+605|6545|San Diego, CA, USA
https://stupidjuice.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/be_nice_to_terrorists_they_will_kill_you_last.jpg
williedyna
Member
+7|6642
I think it was called the final solution
Harmor
Error_Name_Not_Found
+605|6545|San Diego, CA, USA

williedyna wrote:

I think it was called the final solution
Are you trying to equate the extermination of Jews by the Nazi with us exterminating this vermin we call terrorists?

I don't recall the Jews strapping bombs on themselves and killing thousands of Germans.
Harmor
Error_Name_Not_Found
+605|6545|San Diego, CA, USA

Havok wrote:

Harmor wrote:

The only way to deal with them is to kill as many of them as quickly as possible...to fight them wherever they are...to kill them wherever they stand.
That, my friend, is the most fucking stupid comment I have ever heard.  Do you even know what terrorism is?  It' the creation and spreading of terror.  What better way to spread terror that to kill other people who are creating terror.  Yes, let's show the world that we are top dog when it comes to terror, and not those pathetic radicals with bombs on their chests in the Middle East.
We did that thoughout the 80's and 90's...and look what we did.  When the Trade Center was attacked in 1994, did we invade Afghanistan?  Nope, we sent a few cruise missiles into their training camps.  What about when the U.S.S. Cole was attacked? 

Here's a sample just from 1995:
1995: In most countries, the level of international terrorism in 1995 continued the downward trend of recent years, and there were fewer terrorist acts that caused deaths last year than in the previous year. However, the total number of international terrorist acts rose in 1995 from 322 to 440, largely because of a major increase in nonlethal terrorist attacks against property in Germany and in Turkey by the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK). The total number of fatalities from international terrorism worldwide declined from 314 in 1994 to 165 in 1995, but the number of persons wounded increased by a factor of ten to 6,291 persons; 5,500 were injured in a gas attack in the Tokyo subway system in March.
Source: Patterns of Global Terrorism

Need I remind what Hezbolla did to the 234 American troops in Lebanon in 1983?  My father was stationed in those barracks...luckily he broke his thumb the day before and was on a hospital ship.
Havok
Nymphomaniac Treatment Specialist
+302|6671|Florida, United States

Harmor, let me give you a hypothetical situation as to why you cannot eliminate terrorism by military force.

Lets just imagine that your closest friend/family member got bored and decided to vandalize the nearest convenience store for no reason other than to kill boredom.  This act would make him a terrorist, because he is creating terror by creating fear that other stores might get vandalized or robbed.  You say we should eliminate all terrorists, so lets assume someone decides to do what you say and kills your friend.  Regardless of what your friend did before, the fact that someone killed him is going to make you want revenge.  This makes you a terrorist because you wish to inflict harm upon people.  So lets look at what happened here in a mathematical sense.

We had 1 terrorist.  He got killed.  Because he got killed, his closest friends/family are going to want revenge.  This makes multiple terrorists.  So in reality, you didn't eliminate any terrorists, you just created more.
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6127|North Tonawanda, NY

Havok wrote:

Harmor, let me give you a hypothetical situation as to why you cannot eliminate terrorism by military force.

Lets just imagine that your closest friend/family member got bored and decided to vandalize the nearest convenience store for no reason other than to kill boredom.  This act would make him a terrorist, because he is creating terror by creating fear that other stores might get vandalized or robbed.  You say we should eliminate all terrorists, so lets assume someone decides to do what you say and kills your friend.  Regardless of what your friend did before, the fact that someone killed him is going to make you want revenge.  This makes you a terrorist because you wish to inflict harm upon people.  So lets look at what happened here in a mathematical sense.

We had 1 terrorist.  He got killed.  Because he got killed, his closest friends/family are going to want revenge.  This makes multiple terrorists.  So in reality, you didn't eliminate any terrorists, you just created more.
That is a terrible example. 

I could accept that if it were "Little Muhammad Jihad is on his way to school when a bomb blows him up on accident, so his parents turn into terrorists."
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6648|USA

Stingray24 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Neoconservatives have devised their brilliant plan to combat "terrorism" ... "NEVER LISTEN" to the 1.4 billion Muslims, never try to UNDERSTAND their problems, and never provide solutions to ALLEVIATE their grievances.  Instead, invade their countries, keep helping Israel and make generalizations about all Muslims being extremists.

Pretty much what I have been saying all along.  Islamophobia is the neoconservative answer.  How about that.
The grievance of the Muslims that are extremists is that the known world has not converted to Islam.  Good luck alleviating that one.
No I am sure at least Europe will go that far to appease. They will "listen" themselves all the way to the Prophet Muhammad's loving embrace.

Most European countries do not have a very good track record lately for standing up for themselves.

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