Poll

Will the U.S. bring back the draft in a time of war?

Yes65%65% - 62
No34%34% - 33
Total: 95
trackstarr
Member
+18|6672|Swing and a miss
In the event of a major war (ex: Korea,china,russia,etc.)

Will the united states bring back the draft

Dicuss
KuSTaV
noice
+947|6482|Gold Coast
Null vote, they may, they may not. There are already tons of people in reserves and full time anyway. Plus, US has tons of jets, economic power ect too.
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Havok
Nymphomaniac Treatment Specialist
+302|6645|Florida, United States

In the event of WWIII, yes, I think they would have to.
evilcartman99
The Octagon
+18|6383|da ville, va
If we need to we will, its there for the need
trackstarr
Member
+18|6672|Swing and a miss
I believe they will bring the draft back.
No doubt
in a WWIII event they will start sending out the numbers
SonderKommando
Eat, Lift, Grow, Repeat....
+564|6630|The darkside of Denver
Within the next twenty years, WWIII, martial law, conscription of all males.
lavadisk
I am a cat ¦ 3
+369|6800|Denver colorado
If they do I'm gonna be a 'draft dodging pussy' and move to Canada.

I don't care enough about America to fight for it.
rambo_killin_SOB
bunny hopping nade spammer
+61|6482
yes, and i would be going
NeXuS
Shock it till ya know it
+375|6312|Atlanta, Georgia
Ill go cause i dont want to be stuck at home at a desk job eating 99 second rice dinners and bottled water... I want fucking thrill in my life. So with thrill can come the risk of death. Oh well. I say no. The reason we did that in WW2 is cause we lacked technology. Now we can nuke shit and be like, PWNED! Er sumthin..
The_killer2
hai
+36|6146|North Carolina

rambo_killin_SOB wrote:

yes, and i would be going
Same.
Villain{NY}
Banned
+44|6314|New York
If there was an event that brought upon us WWIII it would probably be caused by some monumental attack that would anger Americans to the point that the flood of volunteers will make a draft unnecessary.
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6439
Remember kiddies the only countries that don't send draft dodgers back are Cuba, Iran and North Korea.

But I guess Cuba wouldn't be so bad.
r2zoo
Knowledge is power, guard it well
+126|6567|Michigan, USA
I say no, for the fact the American people would be up in arms about it, and would pretty much cause a larger version of the Vietnam draft dodge, due to our country already being weary from war.

That said, if the draft does come around Ill gladly sign up no need to send me a draft notice, until then im content to sit here and be a wuss
agent146
Member
+127|6357|Jesus Land aka Canada
if so. then the hippies will rise again, mothers will rush their kids into canada and there will be alot of carpet bombing.
Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|6663
Hell yes we would.
NeXuS
Shock it till ya know it
+375|6312|Atlanta, Georgia
i wuv carpet bawbz...
imortal
Member
+240|6635|Austin, TX
No.  Well, I will ammend that.  The US will not bring back the draft if the military can do anything in the world to prevent it.  About the only circumstance I can even visualize it is in the event of a direct invasion of the US mainland by some serious badass forces.  Think China.

Why do I think that, you may ask?  Well, speaking as an American citizen (and one who signed up for selective service when I turned 18, way, way, way back in 1990.) as well as a war vet, I like to think I know a bit about the subject.

I notice that most of the people who posted 'yes' are not from America.  So, unless you have focused more attention on American politics and policies than is really healthy for you, you are just guessing what you want to happen.

Yes, historically, the US, as well as every other country on Earth, used draftees.  Some of those beautiful European countries of yours STILL draft or conscript your soldiers.  The US, on the other hand, has an all volunteer military, and have noted the differences between that and our former force including draftees.

As a question of motivation, it is difficult to make a draftee into an effective modern soldier.  Not for any reason of intelligence, but in attitude.  Being a soldier now is not like being a soldier in WWII.  It takes a lot more 'know-how' to operate as a modern soldier.  Classes to take.  If a draftee is nursing a grudge, there is no way to MAKE them learn how to be a solider.  The military would have to re-enforce draconian enforcement policies again.  And that is counter productive.

Also, in combat you have to trust the person in the foxhole next to you.  And it is hard to trust someone who is resentful of the entire reason of being in the army.  Not to mention the probability of increased drug use by draftees, it would ruin the force readiness of any unit they are in.

And the final reason is technology.  most of the focus of all that wonderful technology that the US military brings to the table is to present the most force possible with as little manpower as possible.  WWI and WWII style fighting went out the door with the invention of the tactical nuclear weapon.  No longer will you find a hilltop with an entire battalion or brigade of infantry on it.  Nuclear weapons have forced the dispersion of troops to prevent a juicy Target of Opportunity to the enemy with TAc Nukes. 

Besides, the reserves and the National Guards were formed for the precise reason of having trained personnel ready at hand without having to keep them as active military.  By activating all of the reserves and NG at once, the size of the military, especially the army, would just about quadruple.  That is what they are there for, anyway, and take less time to get up to speed as training draftees would.

What is more likely is that the military would shift from a rotation schedule to a 'duration of the conflict' deployment. There is not very much of the military deployed at any one time.  Once you include pre- and post-deployment, the number grows a lot.  But barely a third of the army is in Iraq, if that.  If someone knows current units, let me know, k?

Last edited by imortal (2007-07-28 23:51:29)

Hurricane
Banned
+1,153|6601|Washington, DC

I'd say no draft, for the reasons imortal listed. Fact is, you drag a whole bunch of guys into a war they don't believe in, they're not gonna be very good soldiers.
Liberal-Sl@yer
Certified BF2S Asshole
+131|6426|The edge of sanity

lavadisk wrote:

If they do I'm gonna be a 'draft dodging pussy' and move to Canada.

I don't care enough about America to fight for it.
Wont work. We have a deal with canada that all draft dogers will be returned to the states for active service. Plus if they find you draft doging in canada you get buttsechsed by mounties.

As for the draft, unless we are fighting china, russia, or iran i say no.
NeXuS
Shock it till ya know it
+375|6312|Atlanta, Georgia
I agree 100% with imortal.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|6742|PNW

KuSTaV wrote:

Null vote, they may, they may not.
lavadisk
I am a cat ¦ 3
+369|6800|Denver colorado

Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:

lavadisk wrote:

If they do I'm gonna be a 'draft dodging pussy' and move to Canada.

I don't care enough about America to fight for it.
Wont work. We have a deal with canada that all draft dogers will be returned to the states for active service. Plus if they find you draft doging in canada you get buttsechsed by mounties.

As for the draft, unless we are fighting china, russia, or iran i say no.
I have dual citizenship with Canada and America. My dads a resident alien.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6376|North Carolina
No, it's political suicide.  Passing a draft is now the second quickest way to ensure you don't get reelected.  Raising taxes is the quickest.
klassekock
Proud Born Loser
+68|6557|Sweden

doctastrangelove1964 wrote:

Remember kiddies the only countries that don't send draft dodgers back are Cuba, Iran and North Korea.

But I guess Cuba wouldn't be so bad.
But on the other hand, it would be very hard for an american to be allowed to live there. You guys aren't to popular over there i guess........
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6552|SE London

No chance.

Not over the course of the next 50 years in any case, unless the government goes even more downhill.

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